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Amazed at the gun post below!!!!
Seriously? You might need a gun in Walmart? Cujo? Carjacking? I honestly can't wrap my brain around this. I mean it, I'm not exagerating. I had no idea that people take guns everywhere they go. (Which makes me pretty stupid probably, since I live in Kentucky - redneck central.)
So you're telling me that some of you and your DH's are getting ready to leave the house running down your list, "Wallet, check. Cell, check. Keys, check. Extra diaper, check. DEADLY WEAPON, check!" I somehow feel less safe now.
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Re: Amazed at the gun post below!!!!
https://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/24639927.aspx
Did I do that correctly? Its further down that I thought, had to go a couple of pages.
WTH link?
Sorry posted at the same time as you off to read the OP now.
I have a friend that frquently carries and I'm pretty sure her dh does as well. They are both cops. Her first husband was killed in the line of duty (gunshot) and he always carried while not on duty as well. She used to keep a loaded gun in her nightstand but she has a kid now so I don't know if they still do that.
I am married to a cop but he doesn't carry a gun while off duty. He debates it if we are going downtown but I always talk him out of it.
Dh's guns are loaded (for work) but he stores them in a locked safe. He is insanely cautious with his weapons, especially around dd! (as in he doesn't want her to even know it exists).
I don't carrying one all the time...but if others want to then there isn't much I can do...maybe they will come to my defense if I need help.
The Cujo thing is cracking me up. The poster concedes " Yes, Cujo is a crazy reason but she would have been glad to have a gun in the situation."
I agree with you...I personally have absolutely no desire to carry a gun or for my dh to carry one off duty.
I guess how often do you hear about "normal" people having issues with a concealed weapon (not talking about your drug dealers, thugs, etc) so while I do think it is dangerous, it doesn't bother me if other "responsible" people carry one.
actually, there was a 70 year old lady that shot (and killed) someone that burst into her hotel room and tried to rob her and her family. It kind of shocked me that a 70 year old lady had a gun on her...
disclaimer...how you decide "normal" and "responsible" is up for debate of course.
ITA. I read the OP late, but some of the comments, especially the Cujo one, were so laughable that I had to read it to my DH. It sounded even crazier saying it outloud. Like you, I somehow feel much less safe now.
I can understand off duty police officers and the like carrying a gun, but civilians? I just see more bad scenarios than good coming from that.
I'm not anti-gun, nor do I really care if people carry them, but that post was kind of eye opening.
I mean, I know people who hunt, and I know one person who has a CCW permit, but it never really crossed my mind that people feel the need to carry them everywhere they go.
I guess I've lived in a bubble my entire life and never felt the need for a gun? I've never felt that unsafe.
I would much rather stay in my bubble of oblivion.
My dh suggested that we look into a gun after the Cheshire home invasion, since it was not far from us at all. If you an CT you know which I mean, and it was national news as well. I said absolutely not. He tried to explain that it would be easy to get to in the nightstand, it would have a lock, blah blah blah.
I told him it would be just as easy for him to reach for it in an emergency and blow my head off since I was right next to him. It has never been mentioned again!
I've always not understood handguns other than for law enforcement, and feel even more strongly about it after my friend's narcotic officer husband managed to accidentally shoot himself in the hand with the loaded, work issued weapon on his nightstand one night. I REALLY didn't feel sorry for him about his new "disability" - I wanted to smack him for putting my friend in that kind of danger. He could have accidentally shot her just as easily.
and as with eclares, I must live in a bubble as I have never felt unsafe enough to think carrying a weapon with me would make me safer. and we live not too far from a place where MS-13 is doing their fabulous machete attacks with some frequency. I just never go there at night.
It was really eye opening for me. Maybe that's because WIsconsin doesn't have concealed carry, so the only person I know that does carry concealed on a regular basis is a police officer. I actually never knew he carried all the time until he told me one day. It freaked me out at first. Now I'm fine with it, but I don't feel any safer when I'm with him.
Personally, I think my pepper spray keeps me just as safe in a sketchy situation and DD can't shoot and kill herself with it. I dont' have a problem with guns, I grew up with hunters. I don't even have a problem with handguns for people that like to shoot for sport. But the fact is, if you are keeping your guns properly locked away (which you SHOULD be, even if you don't have children), they aren't going to do you any good if someone breaks into your house.
Annelise 3.22.2007 Norah 10.24.2009 Amelia 8.7.2011
I'm with you on this, I was shocked.
Police officers and FBI agents are a whole other story, I get that. My friend is an agent and he has a gun -- but that is his job.
I don't really get the 'there are crazy shootings at our mall, so I am going to pack my gun when I go'? WTF? How about choose a safe place to shop? I mean, really, if someone starts shooting, are you going to whip out your gun and start shooting too? How many innocent people do you think might get killed by you?
Yeah, it shocked me too. I get guns for hunting, many people feed their families with game for the winter or longer. But carrying a gun for 'protection' just out and about? It never crossed my conscienceness.
I think it is well established that more guns don't make people safer.
wow....the mall that luvjon is talking about IS a safe mall...I would NEVER worry about going there, until the shooting happened...and I've been there maybe 5 times since that shooting and every time, I've been on the nervous side....AND I wasn't even there that day.
That's a pretty judgemental statement.
I had no idea it was a written class/exam. I don't know what I expected? An obstacle course like Will Smith had to go through in MIB, maybe?
I have lived in some pretty rough neighborhoods in Philadelphia and taught in a horrible neighborhood there. I have NEVER felt the need to carry a gun with me. I would never want one. And I have been mugged twice.
I don't get it. But, hey, whatever floats your boat, I guess.
ETA: I can guarantee you that a gun would not have helped me either time I was mugged. The first time the guys punched me in the face from behind, knocking my glasses off, so that I was blind as a bat.The second time I was so freaked out that I couldn't even find my cell phone to call the police until after they left, much less would I have been level-headed enough to find a gun and use it.
Alex (11/14/06) and Nate (5/25/10)
"Want what you have, do what you can, be who you are." - Rev. Forrest Church
well, some people take the second amendment to an extreme (of course, this is my opinion and I know people will debate me on this), but I do NOT believe it meant crazy neighbor Bob down the street was allowed to have an arsenal of automatic weapons in his home.
and didn't you know God gave us Americans guns? It's like, in the Bible or something....
A shooting at a high-end store such as Von Maur.. .who would have thought it? And for the record, I don't carry a gun, DH does. And he doesn't really go around shooting people, but if given the situation, he would have no problem pulling out his gun to shoot the shooter. NO problem.
ETA- I should mention DH was in the Marines and is a very sharp shooter.
This. I don't and won't have a gun in my house.
To be perfectly honest, I really don't give a crap why law abiding citizens choose to have guns. That thread was eye opening because I had no idea people really felt the need and had such reasons [like Cujo]. I've never felt the need for a gun, but really I do not think the issue or the fear [for me] comes from people who take the time to get CCW and all that.
Criminals are scary, but they're not exactly concerned with the law anyway, so to me, worrying about gun laws is not really the issue. I don't have a problem with gun laws or gun control, I just find the debate to be kind of ridiculous, on both sides. There's probably a portion of crimes/accidents that can be attributed to legal gun ownership, but I think the bigger concerns are criminals, the illegal gun market, enforcing the current gun laws, etc. I guess my point is, I find it kind of silly to be scared/worried about legal gun ownership [I am not talking about an arsenal of automatic weapons either here - more like handgun owners and CCW people]. I do understand concern about automatic weapons and the like, but I also am bitter and like to cling to my guns and bible [this is a joke, I'll never own a gun and although Catholic, I don't own a bible] or whatever that quote was. Really, I think people have the right to own guns, but I never knew Cujo factored into the decison or that so many people feel like it's necessary b/c I certainly have never felt that way.
I actually agree with you on most of this, eclaires. Yes, criminals are scary, and I don't have a HUGE problem with people who legally own guns. I do think we need to have stricter enforcement of gun laws and need to be better about closing loopholes, but I don't really want to get into all that. Obviously, illegally obtained guns are a HUGE problem in this country.
The guns in the bible thing was a little tongue in cheek...but I vaguely remember reading a book for my Ed Policy class in grad school that someone actually believed something like that. I was on a plane and kept bursting out in laughter at some of the people the author was talking about who had some VERY bizarre ideas about how closely linked our government, laws and the bible are.
I would certainly feel MUCH safer being around someone who had a gun on them LEGALLY than some person who had an illegal gun. While walking in the mall...wouldn't you rather be standing next to someone who had training and a license to carry a gun rather than someone who didn't.
My DH, DS, and DD all have a license to carry a gun (pistol) and they do on many occasions.
I think crime rates are going to start going down because more people are arming themselves LEGALLY. Matter of fact, just last week a woman was upstairs in her bedroom and heard voices downstairs. She grabbed her gun and when she got to the top of the stairs 3 men were coming up the stairs. She shot the first one and the other ran away. They had broken into her home. Do you really think 3 men would have politely asked her for her jewels and money and then left? I'm thinking they would have raped her, killed her, robbed her and left. BTW...the one she shot is alive but facing charges. Hopefully he squeals on the other two.
Classes in our area are filled up and it is hard to find one with an opening for months and months. As far as experience...Police Officers don't have experience either as to every scenario they come across when they first start. That is why they take classes...just like the licensed gun owners do.