The posts over there are making me two kinds of annoyed. First - you have the girl who doesn't get what the "big deal" with a c/s is, and hopes she has one. Then - the girl who says that PPD is the result of "interventions."
Oh, and I almost forgot the girl who, at 30 weeks, thinks it'd be kinda nice to only have 5 weeks left. After all, her MIL had her DH at 35 weeks and he was perfectly fine, teehee! Tell that to my son, who wasn't able to breathe on his own at 35w6d. Geez.
i know rach. they see the movie and think they are experts. i know we must have been like in that in some kind of way, but i would hope i was never condescending to those who needed c/s or other interventions. and to ignore medical facts?
aaaaand I just found the actual post you were talking about. Seriously can't believe she actually said that. DS and I would both not be on this earth right now if it hadn't been for "interventions." As much as I hated my c/s I am thankful every day that it was available to me.
I just LOVE when people who haven't had a baby start passing judgments on how those of us with babies have given birth. She has no idea what it's like to be told you need a c/s. I am fortunate that my c/s was not an emergency and that I had two days to process it, but that doesn't mean that i wanted it. And her comment that "the only thing that matters is a happy healthy baby doesn't mean anything is the mother isn't happy with her birth experience" is a load of bs. I had an great c/s experience but it was by no means what I wanted. And in the end, ALL that matters is DS is happy and healthy.
I truly hate the "my body was made for this" mentality regarding childbirth. So what, all the women and babies who have died in childbirth throughout history just missed that memo?
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I wanted an all natural birth. No induction, no drugs, sitting on the birthing ball and laboring in the tub.
Nope. That's not what happened. I had to be induced because they couldn't find DD's heart rate, and when they did, it was really weak. Did I care at all that I had to be induced? No. All of my expectations flew out the window, and all I wanted was for my baby to be safe and healthy. I wasn't able to labor in a tub, and I ended up getting Nubain for the pain (which didn't help at all but made me feel like I was hallucinating). Do I care now? Nope. All I care about is that my baby is sleeping in her crib right now, healthy and happy. ?
She's in for a big surprise. C-sections save lives every day. Do I think that our c-section rate in this country is obscene? A little bit. It's estimated that one in every three women gives birth by c-section. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But regardless, c-sections save lives, and we should be thankful that we have that option. Many women don't have it and sometimes end up dying in childbirth because they didn't have the option available to them. Some women end up having untrained people perform c-sections or perform it themselves and end up dying.
It is tragic. We should be thankful for the medical care we have available to us, not diss it at any chance that we get. She has no idea if she will end up needing a c-section or not. You need to be prepared for a vaginal birth and a c-section. I would hate to just suddenly end up needing a c-section and know nothing about it. ?
The closest hospital to my house has a 45% c/s rate. They are doing something wrong there. But there was just a NYT article about places in the world where non-doctors do c/s becuase maternal mortality is so high.
There has got to be some kind of happy medium. But like a poster said, those posts ALWAYS go wrong, regardless of intention.
But seriously, stay the hell out of Holy Family... ick!!
I wanted an all natural birth. No induction, no drugs, sitting on the birthing ball and laboring in the tub.
Nope. That's not what happened. I had to be induced because they couldn't find DD's heart rate, and when they did, it was really weak. Did I care at all that I had to be induced? No. All of my expectations flew out the window, and all I wanted was for my baby to be safe and healthy. I wasn't able to labor in a tub, and I ended up getting Nubain for the pain (which didn't help at all but made me feel like I was hallucinating). Do I care now? Nope. All I care about is that my baby is sleeping in her crib right now, healthy and happy.
She's in for a big surprise. C-sections save lives every day. Do I think that our c-section rate in this country is obscene? A little bit. It's estimated that one in every three women gives birth by c-section. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But regardless, c-sections save lives, and we should be thankful that we have that option. Many women don't have it and sometimes end up dying in childbirth because they didn't have the option available to them. Some women end up having untrained people perform c-sections or perform it themselves and end up dying.
It is tragic. We should be thankful for the medical care we have available to us, not diss it at any chance that we get. She has no idea if she will end up needing a c-section or not. You need to be prepared for a vaginal birth and a c-section. I would hate to just suddenly end up needing a c-section and know nothing about it.
Totally. I planned for, trained for a med-free natural childbirth. And I did get 20 hours + four hours of pushing med-free. But DS was sunnyside up and stuck and swimming in meconium, and I got a c-section. It went smoothly, and I have never looked back. The only thing that mattered was that he was healthy. My scar still hurts like hell and I HATE that, but it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
i had a med-free childbirth and it was realatively easy albeit long. but i realize iw as VERY lucky to have it work out that way. i'm so thankful that modern medicine exists b/c if it came down to it and my something was wrong and i needed a c/s, i wouldn't think twice about it.
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ugh, yeah .. me and my son would have been dead if I didn't have a c-section. i was run down the hall, thrown on the operating room bed, knocked out, and baby was out in 2 minutes.
and then i had c-section complications from hell. i dont understand why that girl would choose a c-section because she thinks its easier and not know about all of the horrible things that could happen
ugh, yeah .. me and my son would have been dead if I didn't have a c-section. i was run down the hall, thrown on the operating room bed, knocked out, and baby was out in 2 minutes.
and then i had c-section complications from hell. i dont understand why that girl would choose a c-section because she thinks its easier and not know about all of the horrible things that could happen
This is my pov exactly, except that by the Grace of God they caught me before it become a true, running down the hall, emergency.
The closest hospital to my house has a 45% c/s rate. They are doing something wrong there. But there was just a NYT article about places in the world where non-doctors do c/s becuase maternal mortality is so high.
I don't know much about this because I don't care enough to do the research
But there's a doctor around here who has a 70% c-section rate, or something really high. Wow, that's messed up, right?
Except that he does a lot of fertility treatments, and has a lot of multiple births that require a c/s. I think that little details like that are often overlooked when talking about c/s statistics.
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The closest hospital to my house has a 45% c/s rate. They are doing something wrong there. But there was just a NYT article about places in the world where non-doctors do c/s becuase maternal mortality is so high.
I don't know much about this because I don't care enough to do the research
But there's a doctor around here who has a 70% c-section rate, or something really high. Wow, that's messed up, right?
Except that he does a lot of fertility treatments, and has a lot of multiple births that require a c/s. I think that little details like that are often overlooked when talking about c/s statistics.
she just jinxed herself. she's going to end up with either an epi or a c/s. I can see it coming. lets remember her name so we can watch for it!
That's exactly what I was thinking too. I am looking forward to her birth story...
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Gleefully wishing an epi or c-section on someone makes four of you kind of asssholes.
Yes. And its stupid to think that the section rate is ok. Its not. I am with the posters on this.
I hope they get the vaginal births they desire. I wanted a natural vaginal birth and ended up with a section because of Jo's heartrate. I don't know what the outcome would have been. It might have been fine vaginally. I did everything I could.
I think the section rate is too high. I think way too many women are induced and I think its weird to question those who question it. ?
Ok I just read that post and all it was was a bit of a cool "you can do it" post. I don't think people read it properly or, as usual followed BW into a battle over something you're insecure about.
There is a connection between C/S and PPD. Yes there is. Its documented. It doesn't mean everyone will have PPD, nor does it mean that a vaginal birth will mean you won't have PPD.
But there is a connection, we are made to birth (and she did a sweet job of trying to encourage women)
Get over it ladies. I had a section too. I still truly admire women who can do it naturally. ?
There is a connection between C/S and PPD. Yes there is. Its documented. It doesn't mean everyone will have PPD, nor does it mean that a vaginal birth will mean you won't have PPD.
there is no doubt there's a connection between a bad delivery & PPD. her wording (and i got the link from 0-6), was condescending. you're going to have pain no matter if you have interventions or not. i know you can vouch for that.
Ohhh yes. It hurts. Surgery hurts and recovery was a ***. I just think in this case, her post was well intended. And with 4 weeks to go, she needed to be encouraged, not told people wished surgery on her and her child.
I'm coming into this late but I have to say, I NEVER wanted a c/s. That was never my preferred method of child birthing. But I'm so thankful that my doctor made me do it b/c if Kenley was 10lbs 2oz with a 15" head at 39 wks 5 days, I'd hate to see how big she would have been if we waited longer and I'd hate to see what could have happened if I tried to deliver her myself. It very easily could have turned into a scary situation.
I could have said no to my c/s and I did try to fight to induce and try to labor but my doctor knew what was best and didn't want to put either of us in a potentially dangerour situation.
Is that how I wanted to have my baby? Nope. Being cut open and having to recover from surgery is not my ideal...but we're both healthy and that's all that matters.
I truly hate the "my body was made for this" mentality regarding childbirth. So what, all the women and babies who have died in childbirth throughout history just missed that memo?
The closest hospital to my house has a 45% c/s rate.? They are doing something wrong there.?? But there was just a NYT article about places in the world where non-doctors do c/s becuase maternal mortality is so high.
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I don't know much about this because I don't care enough to do the research?
But there's a doctor around here who has a 70% c-section rate, or something really high.? Wow, that's messed up, right?
Except that he does a lot of fertility treatments, and has a lot of multiple births that require a c/s.? I think that little details like that are often overlooked when talking about c/s statistics.
I bet I know which doctor you're talking about
me too. ?And I think people on here overlook the fact that quite possibly, a doctor with 28 years of experience delivering babies might know more about safely delivering babies than a bunch of Nesties and even more than Ricki Lake, MD.?
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anderson . september 2008
vivian . february 2010
mabel . august 2012
There's not really any point in arguing with them. None of them have ever been in the position where somebody tells you "Your baby's life is in danger and we need to get her out right now." I've been there, as I know many of you have, and it doesn't take a half a second to make the decision. No matter how adamantly against c-sections you may have been beforehand, when your baby's heartrate is dipping and vaginal birth isn't working and every second you wait risks your precious baby's life, you have the surgery and you're damn thankful you had the option. So I don't see the point in arguing with them... many of them will find out soon enough.
I had a CS, there was no way around it...so I don't get much flack. My sister however is allergic to the epi/spinal meds and was told it would have to be vag birth with no meds or a CS under general. She picked CS and I will admit I gave her grief for about 5 min. Then I realized A- this is not my birth, and B- I can't say 100% that I would want to go drug free either.
I think the whole thing is a little silly to get all upset over, who cares what the national average is...just worry about your self and hope the whole use it or lose it isn't really true.
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The posts over there are making me two kinds of annoyed. First - you have the girl who doesn't get what the "big deal" with a c/s is, and hopes she has one. Then - the girl who says that PPD is the result of "interventions."
Oh, and I almost forgot the girl who, at 30 weeks, thinks it'd be kinda nice to only have 5 weeks left. After all, her MIL had her DH at 35 weeks and he was perfectly fine, teehee! Tell that to my son, who wasn't able to breathe on his own at 35w6d. Geez.
Um, you must have missed the memo that went around the tri boards.
There's something about being sperminated that instantly makes you an expert on the following:
-Breastfeeding in public (what's acceptable and what is not)
-Flying with a baby (not allowed, ever.)
-C-Sections (everyone who has one is vain and doesn't want a stretched out vag)
-Inductions ( acceptable. pregnancy should last not one minute over 40 weeks....or before.)
-How to raise the perfect child
ALL before you ever give birth!!
i know rach. they see the movie and think they are experts. i know we must have been like in that in some kind of way, but i would hope i was never condescending to those who needed c/s or other interventions. and to ignore medical facts?
I wanted an all natural birth. No induction, no drugs, sitting on the birthing ball and laboring in the tub.
Nope. That's not what happened. I had to be induced because they couldn't find DD's heart rate, and when they did, it was really weak. Did I care at all that I had to be induced? No. All of my expectations flew out the window, and all I wanted was for my baby to be safe and healthy. I wasn't able to labor in a tub, and I ended up getting Nubain for the pain (which didn't help at all but made me feel like I was hallucinating). Do I care now? Nope. All I care about is that my baby is sleeping in her crib right now, healthy and happy. ?
She's in for a big surprise. C-sections save lives every day. Do I think that our c-section rate in this country is obscene? A little bit. It's estimated that one in every three women gives birth by c-section. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But regardless, c-sections save lives, and we should be thankful that we have that option. Many women don't have it and sometimes end up dying in childbirth because they didn't have the option available to them. Some women end up having untrained people perform c-sections or perform it themselves and end up dying.
It is tragic. We should be thankful for the medical care we have available to us, not diss it at any chance that we get. She has no idea if she will end up needing a c-section or not. You need to be prepared for a vaginal birth and a c-section. I would hate to just suddenly end up needing a c-section and know nothing about it. ?
LOL. she's due very soon
The closest hospital to my house has a 45% c/s rate. They are doing something wrong there. But there was just a NYT article about places in the world where non-doctors do c/s becuase maternal mortality is so high.
There has got to be some kind of happy medium. But like a poster said, those posts ALWAYS go wrong, regardless of intention.
But seriously, stay the hell out of Holy Family... ick!!
I know the anticipation is KILLING me. :P
Totally. I planned for, trained for a med-free natural childbirth. And I did get 20 hours + four hours of pushing med-free. But DS was sunnyside up and stuck and swimming in meconium, and I got a c-section. It went smoothly, and I have never looked back. The only thing that mattered was that he was healthy. My scar still hurts like hell and I HATE that, but it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things.
i agree with you completely kel!
i had a med-free childbirth and it was realatively easy albeit long. but i realize iw as VERY lucky to have it work out that way. i'm so thankful that modern medicine exists b/c if it came down to it and my something was wrong and i needed a c/s, i wouldn't think twice about it.
ugh, yeah .. me and my son would have been dead if I didn't have a c-section. i was run down the hall, thrown on the operating room bed, knocked out, and baby was out in 2 minutes.
and then i had c-section complications from hell. i dont understand why that girl would choose a c-section because she thinks its easier and not know about all of the horrible things that could happen
This is my pov exactly, except that by the Grace of God they caught me before it become a true, running down the hall, emergency.
I don't know much about this because I don't care enough to do the research
But there's a doctor around here who has a 70% c-section rate, or something really high. Wow, that's messed up, right?
Except that he does a lot of fertility treatments, and has a lot of multiple births that require a c/s. I think that little details like that are often overlooked when talking about c/s statistics.
I bet I know which doctor you're talking about
That's exactly what I was thinking too. I am looking forward to her birth story...
9/24/2011 Plymouth Firefighters 5k: 47:13
11/12/2011 Diva Dash 5k: 45:45
5/5/2012 STEM school 5k TBD Coming up in 2012:
6/10/2012 Walk to Remember SIDS foundation 5k
(in memory of a sweet baby boy)
11/10/2012 Diva Dash 5k
Well since the tri boards are on a roll, maybe we should ask them how they feel about working mommies and daycare! I believe they have covered all of the other major topics. Oh, except vaccinations.
Yes. And its stupid to think that the section rate is ok. Its not. I am with the posters on this.
I hope they get the vaginal births they desire. I wanted a natural vaginal birth and ended up with a section because of Jo's heartrate. I don't know what the outcome would have been. It might have been fine vaginally. I did everything I could.
I think the section rate is too high. I think way too many women are induced and I think its weird to question those who question it. ?
Ok I just read that post and all it was was a bit of a cool "you can do it" post. I don't think people read it properly or, as usual followed BW into a battle over something you're insecure about.
There is a connection between C/S and PPD. Yes there is. Its documented. It doesn't mean everyone will have PPD, nor does it mean that a vaginal birth will mean you won't have PPD.
But there is a connection, we are made to birth (and she did a sweet job of trying to encourage women)
Get over it ladies. I had a section too. I still truly admire women who can do it naturally. ?
there is no doubt there's a connection between a bad delivery & PPD. her wording (and i got the link from 0-6), was condescending. you're going to have pain no matter if you have interventions or not. i know you can vouch for that.
Ohhh yes. It hurts. Surgery hurts and recovery was a ***. I just think in this case, her post was well intended. And with 4 weeks to go, she needed to be encouraged, not told people wished surgery on her and her child.
Lame. ?
I'm coming into this late but I have to say, I NEVER wanted a c/s. That was never my preferred method of child birthing. But I'm so thankful that my doctor made me do it b/c if Kenley was 10lbs 2oz with a 15" head at 39 wks 5 days, I'd hate to see how big she would have been if we waited longer and I'd hate to see what could have happened if I tried to deliver her myself. It very easily could have turned into a scary situation.
I could have said no to my c/s and I did try to fight to induce and try to labor but my doctor knew what was best and didn't want to put either of us in a potentially dangerour situation.
Is that how I wanted to have my baby? Nope. Being cut open and having to recover from surgery is not my ideal...but we're both healthy and that's all that matters.
ditto!
me too. ?And I think people on here overlook the fact that quite possibly, a doctor with 28 years of experience delivering babies might know more about safely delivering babies than a bunch of Nesties and even more than Ricki Lake, MD.?
(read it. you know you want to.)
anderson . september 2008
vivian . february 2010
mabel . august 2012
This.
I had a CS, there was no way around it...so I don't get much flack. My sister however is allergic to the epi/spinal meds and was told it would have to be vag birth with no meds or a CS under general. She picked CS and I will admit I gave her grief for about 5 min. Then I realized A- this is not my birth, and B- I can't say 100% that I would want to go drug free either.
I think the whole thing is a little silly to get all upset over, who cares what the national average is...just worry about your self and hope the whole use it or lose it isn't really true.