Sounds like a silly excuse. I think it IS the hassle. Let's face it- changing disposable diapers isn't the highlight of a daycare worker's day. They damn sure don't get paid enough to deal with cloth ones. (And I say this as a former daycare teacher.) I feel that if you want/need to use a daycare, you should be prepared to use disposables and cloth.
Did you take a diaper in with you? I know it sounds dumb, but someone recommended that to me (like an AIO, for example). I haven't asked our place about it yet, but people that aren't familiar with cd think they all have pins, require tons of extra work, etc. And when you take it in you can just tell them they don't have to scrape or do anything different - just put the dirty ones in a bag for you for the end of the day. As for storage, that seems like a weird excuse. GL! I am hoping to get our daycare to accept cd because I really want to do it. If they say no, I will just do it at home and on weekends.
Do they really take up that much more room then disposables? You're right, I think it's silly too! That's too bad.
I don't think it is a space issue as much as a concern about hygiene.
Unless you really love one of these places keep looking. You might be able to find a place that will use them. Also some women CD part time in that situation. They use the CDs at night and on weekends. It doesn't have the same impact as full time CDing, but it can work.
My MIL has her own daycare and it may be out of their hands, sometimes the state regulates things like that. Depending on where you're at, the state may not allow it for daycares.
At my center, we also do not allow cloth diapers. part of the reason is that our state regulations say that we have to change the baby's diaper every 2 hours, wet-soiled or not. It isn't really sanitary to store all of those cloth diapers after use. If all my babies were using them, that would be 8 cloth diapers to change and store every 2 hours.
I agree with what you said though about using disposables at daycare and cloth at home. Probably a good idea.
Strangely I have not been asked about cloth yet by any prospective families.
Yeah. . .they're really not sanitary for a child care environment. There is absolutely no way to mask the smell, and they aren't allowed to dump the bodily fluids, so they just have to leave them in the diaper all day for you to collect when you pick them up. It's not ideal.
Also, you might want to post this on the Eco-Friendly Family board, because the ladies over there have lots of experience with cds and dealing with people's general opposition. Hope it works out for you!
At my center, we also do not allow cloth diapers.? part of the reason is that our state regulations say that we have to change the baby's diaper every 2 hours, wet-soiled or not.? It isn't really sanitary to store all of those cloth diapers after use.? If all my babies were using them, that would be 8 cloth diapers to change and store every 2 hours.?
I agree with what you said though about using disposables at daycare and cloth at home.? Probably a good idea.
Strangely I have not been asked?about cloth?yet by any prospective families.?
This was basically their explanation. ?The state allows it, but the regulations make it difficult to keep up with the sanitation requirements. ?I don't even know if we are going the cloth route for sure, but I was hoping to try them out. ?I still plan to try gdiapers at home the first 12 weeks. ?AFter that, it looks like we will use disposables at daycare and either gdiapers or cloth at home.?
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Ohh- if they were referring to storing the dirty ones, then that makes sense! Initially, I just thought you meant storing them in general before they've been used. Duh Ang!
But to all the PPs who said that it's more unsanitary to store cloth diapers.... how on earth is it any different to put cloth diapers in a wet bag (essentially a really expensive garbage bag with a zipper) rather than put disposibles in a trash bag? They both sit in a trash can. They both have poo and pee. both are contained.
I'm assuming you don't take the trash out to the dumpster after every diaper change? So, the trash bag with dirty diapers sits in the classroom all day too.
Yeah. . .they're really not sanitary for a child care environment. There is absolutely no way to mask the smell, and they aren't allowed to dump the bodily fluids, so they just have to leave them in the diaper all day for you to collect when you pick them up. It's not ideal.
I just want to inform you so please don't take this as being rude. It sounds like you don't have experience with CD's and I apologize if that assumption is incorrect. They are no less sanitary than using disposables. The dirty disposables sit in a can all day and the cloth go in a waterproof zippered bag that does contain the smell. You put the bag in the bathroom where you keep the can for disposables.
We use bio-liners for DS's diapers so when he has a poopy one, I dump it in the toilet and the liner with the poops on it goes down the toilet! And no one dumps the bodily fluids from disposables, the same as with cloth. I am glad that there are so many day care providers are willing to work with cloth. I'm suprised to hear there are any that don't. It shouldn't be any more of a hassle to the employees using pockets or AIO that are all ready to go, just like a disposable. The only think they do different is dump the poop and put it in a bag. Now if you're using covers and pins, that's a different story. I would be sure to explain the kind of CD's they have now days!
But to all the PPs who said that it's more unsanitary to store cloth diapers.... how on earth is it any different to put cloth diapers in a wet bag (essentially a really expensive garbage bag with a zipper) rather than put disposibles in a trash bag?? They both sit in a trash can. They both have poo and pee.? both are contained.?
?I'm assuming you don't take the trash out to the dumpster after every diaper change?? So, the trash bag with dirty diapers sits in the classroom all day too.?
I agree, but I think some of the daycares dispose of them in a trashcan outside (one put this on their website). ?If we decide to go with one of these daycares, I might push the issue and just ask if I can bring in my own trashcan with a zippered wetbag inside of it. ?We'll see...?
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You realize that they would have to have a different wetbag for each child right? So 8 wetbags sitting around, you would have to go through each everytime you change a diaper....As much as people may be against it I totally understand from the caretakers perspective. Just use cloth at home and disposables at daycare if those are your only choices for daycare. I know the 3 daycares that area available to me all require disposables for state regulation issues.
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Re: Both daycares I visited today said no to cloth diapers
Sounds like a silly excuse. I think it IS the hassle. Let's face it- changing disposable diapers isn't the highlight of a daycare worker's day. They damn sure don't get paid enough to deal with cloth ones. (And I say this as a former daycare teacher.) I feel that if you want/need to use a daycare, you should be prepared to use disposables and cloth.
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I don't think it is a space issue as much as a concern about hygiene.
Unless you really love one of these places keep looking. You might be able to find a place that will use them. Also some women CD part time in that situation. They use the CDs at night and on weekends. It doesn't have the same impact as full time CDing, but it can work.
At my center, we also do not allow cloth diapers. part of the reason is that our state regulations say that we have to change the baby's diaper every 2 hours, wet-soiled or not. It isn't really sanitary to store all of those cloth diapers after use. If all my babies were using them, that would be 8 cloth diapers to change and store every 2 hours.
I agree with what you said though about using disposables at daycare and cloth at home. Probably a good idea.
Strangely I have not been asked about cloth yet by any prospective families.
Are they talking about storing the dirty ones? ?I guess I could understand that. ?
Finding a good match daycare is frustrating, but don't get discouraged.
This was basically their explanation. ?The state allows it, but the regulations make it difficult to keep up with the sanitation requirements. ?I don't even know if we are going the cloth route for sure, but I was hoping to try them out. ?I still plan to try gdiapers at home the first 12 weeks. ?AFter that, it looks like we will use disposables at daycare and either gdiapers or cloth at home.?
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Not to start drama or anything....
But to all the PPs who said that it's more unsanitary to store cloth diapers.... how on earth is it any different to put cloth diapers in a wet bag (essentially a really expensive garbage bag with a zipper) rather than put disposibles in a trash bag? They both sit in a trash can. They both have poo and pee. both are contained.
I'm assuming you don't take the trash out to the dumpster after every diaper change? So, the trash bag with dirty diapers sits in the classroom all day too.
I just want to inform you so please don't take this as being rude. It sounds like you don't have experience with CD's and I apologize if that assumption is incorrect. They are no less sanitary than using disposables. The dirty disposables sit in a can all day and the cloth go in a waterproof zippered bag that does contain the smell. You put the bag in the bathroom where you keep the can for disposables.
We use bio-liners for DS's diapers so when he has a poopy one, I dump it in the toilet and the liner with the poops on it goes down the toilet! And no one dumps the bodily fluids from disposables, the same as with cloth. I am glad that there are so many day care providers are willing to work with cloth. I'm suprised to hear there are any that don't. It shouldn't be any more of a hassle to the employees using pockets or AIO that are all ready to go, just like a disposable. The only think they do different is dump the poop and put it in a bag. Now if you're using covers and pins, that's a different story. I would be sure to explain the kind of CD's they have now days!
I agree, but I think some of the daycares dispose of them in a trashcan outside (one put this on their website). ?If we decide to go with one of these daycares, I might push the issue and just ask if I can bring in my own trashcan with a zippered wetbag inside of it. ?We'll see...?
I know I'm late on this but:
You realize that they would have to have a different wetbag for each child right? So 8 wetbags sitting around, you would have to go through each everytime you change a diaper....As much as people may be against it I totally understand from the caretakers perspective. Just use cloth at home and disposables at daycare if those are your only choices for daycare. I know the 3 daycares that area available to me all require disposables for state regulation issues.