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CD/DPO of first BFP?
How many months/cycles had you been TTC?
How long have you been an active participant on the TTGP board? (minimum: 3 full months)
What did your chart look like?
What were you doing TGKU?
How was your timing? What symptoms did you have, if any? (CS & CD breakdowns welcome)
<p><b><img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/80/tyr4r7xrvhgz.gif"><img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/py/nv8byalltrcv.gif"> </b></p><p><b>CD/DPO of first BFP?</b> 4dp5dt<span>
<b>How many months/cycles had you been TTC?</b> This weekend marks six years of being married, and six years of TTC. </span>It took us 31 months to get our first BFP at the very end of 2018. This time around, we called the doctor about returning to center in February 2021, so then we had a testing / preparatory cycle in March, one FET in April, and our second (and final) in May. </p><p>
<b>How long have you been an active participant on the TTGP board?</b> (minimum: 3 full months) I joined in November or December of 2015 after we had been TTC for six months or so with no luck. I had already been charting BBT on paper, and eventually I downloaded FF and kept tracking… We started Napro medicine in 2016, and learned how to track my cycles with Creighton method. They did a pretty comprehensive testing workup on me. My cortisol was high (Ha!) but nothing conclusive. Unfortunately, I felt like I really had to advocate for a semen analysis. We did the first collection in a perforated condom, brought it to the lab, and we waited. We waited So Long to get the results back, I was calling the doctor, and finally the nurse told me, the doctor thinks it’s probably a mistake, because there was no sperm. I remember exactly where I was sitting in the car parked outside the dog groomer when she told me that. Of course, we had another test to confirm / refute. I went in to get the collection kit, and she was about to charge me $5 and I was not having it, lol I just took the kit and left. We did a conventional collection just to be sure there was nothing funny going on with the sample, and it came back the same. This time, I asked the Andrologist, and luckily the lab manager was kind enough to personally give me an (incredibly prompt) call back that same morning, just as we were walking back in the kitchen door, to unofficially confirm our diagnosis over the phone: Azoospermia.</p>
<p>To say we were devastated would be a start. It has been a journey. We were hesitant to do IVF for religious reasons, and we asked the Urologist to see if there were any surgical repairs he could do with DH's tubes, while going in for a surgical sperm retrieval, since I believe we had both NOA and OA components. (His FSH was almost 10, but the tubes were also missing, too small, cut, I'm not sure what. All the genetic screenings came back completely clear, but often there is a connection to CF carrier status, in addition to other chromosomal factors. Ultimately in our case, there was no known genetic cause ever found). He took three months of Clomid leading up to his sperm retrieval procedure, to try and boost whatever counts might possibly be there. Sure enough, best birthday present ever!?! We found sperm!!! But the doctor said he was unable to make any surgical repairs.</p>
<p>So we proceeded with IVF+ICSI, since IUI is out of the question, and surgically retrieved sperm are not developed enough to fertilize an egg on their own. We did two back to back IVFs for me in September of 2017.</p><p>***TW*** IVF Retrieval stats</p>
<div class="Spoiler">The first cycle yielded 18 eggs, and 3 frozen blasts. We knew we wanted a bigger family, if possible, so we repeated. The next yielded 21 eggs and 4 frozen blasts. We did not do PGS.</div>
<p>I have never had a successful transfer on the first try. So if you are someone who is discouraged, I am here to tell you, sometimes you just have to keep trying.</p><p>***TW*** LCs</p><div class="Spoiler">We did two medicated cycles to get our DD in 2018. We switched to natural cycles when we returned, including one cancelled medicated cycle, to finally, after our third FET, get our DD2 in 2020. She was my VBAC baby, so we were able to return to treatment six months sooner in order to retrieve our last two remaining embryos from storage.</div><p><span>
<b>What did your chart look like?</b> A hot mess! Lol It’s been hard with early monitoring appointments messing with my schedule to get a consistent temp time, but it was enough to see a shift. My doctors were watching for my surge with daily bloodwork anyway, so charting wasn’t really necessary.</span></p><div class="Spoiler">ETA chart + moar gifs <img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/x3/4ezp2a98xqqe.jpg"> </div><p> <b>What were you doing TGKU?</b> Levothyroxine, HCG Trigger, and supplemental progesterone (Endometrin) as part of a Natural FET protocol, plus probiotics (tablets, in addition to eating kim chee, raw kraut, beet kvass, yogurt etc), daily avocado, *bone broth, Brazil nuts (a natural source of Selenium), RRL tea, pom juice, beets/beet juice prior to transfer, limiting coffee/caffeine; PNVs, DHA, Flax, CoQ10, B6, C, E, D+K, Cal/Mag, Zinc… I’ll add more if I remember anything else; it was a lot. I also had been taking myo-inositol and l-Arginine consistently during the previous transfer cycle, and cramp bark closer to transfer, but I backed off of those this time, because I felt fewer reservations about taking the more, “conventional,” vitamins, and prioritizing getting food-based nutrients, than other things that hadn’t been prescribed by my doctor. That has generally been my pattern: I try all the things first cycle out of the gate, then when it doesn’t work, I just do what feels good and manageable, keep putting one foot in front of the other and… Voilà!</p><p><b>How was your timing? What symptoms did you have, if any? </b>(CS & CD breakdowns welcome)</p><p> Five day frozen embryo transfer. I did an HCG trigger shot in the evening, prior to ovulation, and then five days later was transfer day! We do an abx vaginal gel the evening prior, and then an extra 200mg compounded progesterone suppository 1-2 hours prior. I will be taking Endometrin through 8-10 weeks.</p><p><u>Symptom Breakdown</u>:</p><div class="Spoiler"><b>TRANSFER DAY!!! </b> The nurse said my uterus looked, “gorgeous,” and the embryologist said the embryo was doing great! My own doctor did the transfer that day, and she said that must be a good sign, that they both said everything looked so good. I got a real sleepy spell on the way home, which I was hoping would be a good sign. (But I’m also generally feeling kind of exhausted all the time, due to keeping crazy hours with all the appointments.) Overall, I was feeling much more calm and content this time, which I mostly attribute to having deepened my prayer life - out of necessity. I knew I was going to have to find a way to be okay, even if this last transfer didn’t go well, so I really had given it to God in a way that I trusted whatever outcome would be the right one. And in a possibly crazy way, there was a part of me that never doubted it would work this time, even though logically, I know that it often doesn’t.
<b>1dp5dt</b> – I woke up very mildly congested, and had a slight nosebleed in the shower, which is not normal for me.<span> I also felt some slight cervical zaps while driving that morning, but nothing that couldn’t be explained away or possibly just imaginary SS.
</span><b>2dp5dt </b>– I felt very warm that morning after getting out of the shower. SIL was here, and I was saying OMG it’s so hot in here, I had to take my cardi off, but she said she thought the house felt cool.<span> Perhaps just a fantasy, but I saw my chubby reflection in the window outside an office building later that day, and thought maybe I, “looked pregnant.” Lol I was still mildly congested, but nothing outside of normal every day seasonal allergies or sinus funk.
</span><b>3dp5dt</b> – Still mildly congested, but feeling good, calm and happy! The weird thing is I was getting this strange tingly sensation all afternoon, (Sorry to be TMI,) but like an almost aroused sensation? I was also excited because there was an audition that night I was getting ready for. Originally, I was trying not to test, because if it didn’t work, I wanted to just say in that PUPO/PASP bubble, but I was feeling so good, I decided to go for it!<span> There was a faint line on a FRER, which was to be expected because I was only 8 days past trigger, but it still had me feeling hopeful… I had a great night at the audition, and experienced some mild cramping at home later that evening.
</span><b>4dp5dt</b> – Feeling weepy / happy / emotional, and more of those tingly feelings! I took a FRER in the afternoon, and it was Darker!!! I cried and was shaking, but then I had to get on a work call, so that was a good distraction. I tried another FRER that evening, but it wasn’t convincingly darker, although the controls also were totally different, so I tried not to let it worry me. I was feeling some low back pain, and pain in my right foot (that I need to get xrayed), but my quads were also sore from dancing the night before, so I wasn’t sure if it was symptom-related, or workout related.<span> I also had some slight pelvic twinges at bedtime, like SPD pain, (which I had very badly with my last pregnancy), but nothing all that definitive.
</span><b>5dp5dt </b>– The FMU FRER line was there, and maybe a little darker, but I wasn’t too sure because it wasn’t as dark as the one from the previous afternoon. But then I thought to check, and it did show progression from the other FMU from the previous day, so that was encouraging. My wondfos had darkened, which I knew had been only vvvvf shadow lines last time at this point, and there was a visible line on the Easy@home cheapie, which had been SWN at this time last transfer. I knew it was early, but I wanted to take a digi anyway, and stupidly, I followed the directions to dip for 20 seconds, and drowned the test! I had a feeling that would happen, but anyway. I should have let it go at that for the day. But I tested again and it said, “Not Pregnant.” I called the nurse line to see if they could get me in earlier for beta, in case it turned out to be a CP, and had to just leave a message.<span> However, I was having some mild cramps and very mild nausea in the evening, and my second FRER seemed to maybe show a little progression…
</span><b>6dp5dt </b>– I had saved one last FRER for the morning, while I waited for a fresh stockpile of tests to arrive. The line was still there with FMU, but still not overwhelmingly dark. I tried to put it out of my mind and go about our day, hoping my new tests would be there when we got home from Church. The nurse also called me back and said the earliest she could move my betas was up to Tuesday / Thursday, so I had that to look forward to as well. Sure enough, the tests had already arrived when we got home, and I had a nice four-hour hold. I tested with the FRER first, and it maybe looked good?? I decided to be brave and try the digi… and it popped!!! <span>Best Anniversary present ever! <3 I never thought I'd get to be one of those annoying people who gets a BFP on a special day like that, but here I am. lol </span><img alt="Happy Anniversary GIFs - Get the best GIF on GIPHY" src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fl3q2vSszWywLqvFDy%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1"> </div><b> How are you going to/did you tell your partner? </b> I initially texted him the first comparison picture between 3dpt-4dpt, which I wasn’t even sure if he saw, because the image wasn’t going through at first. And when it eventually did, the phone wasn’t showing he had seen it, so I deleted it. But when he came home, he asked me about it, and I lolled and showed him the tests. Over the next few days of testing, I was semi keeping him in the loop. Once I got the digi last night, I came downstairs and said, “Hey, check out this thing I just got from Amazon!” LOL I know, lame. When I showed it to him, he was happy, but still skeptical. He said he understood that the transfer had maybe actually worked this time, but asked when we could stop worrying. Ha! First trimester is scheduled to end around his birthday, so we will probably plan to tell family then.
<b>Anything else to add? </b>It’s crazy to think this is the end of an era for us. The long, crazy chapter in our lives that has been TTC has officially drawn to a close. We don’t have any more of DH’s samples stored, and we won’t be going back and creating any new embryos at this point. Adoption is still on the table, as we may hope to continue to grow our family in that way as well – God willing – after this baby arrives safe and sound. But that’s a journey for another day. ❤️<p>Words fall short to express how much have loved this TTGP community over the years, and I suppose that’s why I have made a point to try to keep giving back. I have made friends who were with me every step of the way, blow-by-blow of our trying battle with infertility, and that’s a very special bond that is not so easily severed. By the grace of all we had been through, I am especially grateful to have been able to be a support for another Azoo wife when she joined TB, AlohaKumu. <3 There have been a small handful of very severe MFI ladies on the board, and we totally get it without saying a word. Really though, everyone who is here, and everyone who struggles – we may be fighting our own unique battles, but we share so much more in common than our different diagnoses, and I’m truly just so incredibly grateful for this community. It will always hold a special place in my heart, and I will continue to lurk and root for everyone here, to the bitter (or joyous!) end.</p><img alt="Happy 2nd Birthday Nerd Out - Nerd Out" src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnerdoutapp.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F08%2F6357875535778725211873103047_tumblr_inline_mi4wc0An6C1qz4rgp.gif&f=1&nofb=1"> <img alt="Mtv Guy Love GIF - Find Share on GIPHY" src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FVRlNLlwZXJF0Q%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1"> <img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/v7/rnqafwz7gn50.gif">
I am doing this on my own. Left ovary and fallopian tube removed due to cyst/necrosis just after birth. Right ovary and tube still purport to function.
Began TTC in Aug '18 @ age 35
5 or 6 (or 7?!) cycles using frozen donor sperm, ICI. All BFN
Mar-Jun '19 IUIs, all BFN
Began process of referral for RE in spring of '19, blood tests confirm low AMH (.54) but all else is good.
May '19 HSG shows open tube, but ultrasound suggests fibroids
MRI in June '19 confirms two large fibroids, one growing through wall of uterus
In June '19 I move from California to Oregon, disrupting my insurance, referrals, etc. 5 months spent piecing it all back together.
Nov. '19 attempted myomectomy (vaginal approach) failed. 2nd surgery using laparoscopic method in Jan '20 is successful.
April '20 --> June '20, natural IUIs, all BFN.
July? saline ultrasound and bubble test demonstrate open tube
July '20 clomid cycle cancelled for thin lining
Aug-Oct, 3 femara cycles, all BFN
RE referral. While waiting to set up an appointment Nov-Jan,I continue with natural cycles and ICI, using a known donor, BFN...
Jan '21 more bloodwork, AMH is worse (.30), FSH high albeit not catastrophic at 13.2. hysteroscopy all good. "looks cozy!" says the RE.
Feb '21, injectables (menopur, novarel), iui, BFN (doc said the frozen donor sperm sample had the "best numbers she'd ever seen!")
Mar '21, injectables, iui cancelled due to lack of follicles, converted to at home-insem. BFN
May '21, first IVF round cancelled due to cyst.
July '21 IVF: standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 7; 6 days of stims. 8 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 5 fertilize, 4 made it to blast. 3 are 4AB, 1 is 4BB. PGT-A results all abnormal. Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow. Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal. Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP. May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy. July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen. Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized. From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos! Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN. July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
(Just wanted to get that out of the way before I compose myself.) I was thinking about you this morning @BusinessWife, and lo-and-behold, got the best news when I logged in here. Can't say much more than H&H 9 months. I hope everything goes well, and don't forget to keep lurking here. Your advice and opinions (unpopular and otherwise) are always welcome.
@acleverusername LOL Thank you!!! Yes, you must have heard I was up working on my novel this morning. :D I will continue to root for you and the IF ladies so hard! @optimistgardener
@BusinessWife ahhhhh yessss girl!!!!!!! Sooo happy for you. Congratulations!!! ❤❤ You so deserve this. Im so happy to see your name here. H&H 9 months to you.
@Lisa3379 Thank you! I'm sorry I couldn't join you in January, but I guess February will have to do ;)
@rgn12 Thank you so much!!! :D
@kgg2241 Thank you!! Hope to see you on the BMBs soon, too! <3
@mamanbebe Thanks for the love. <3 I appreciate it more than you know.
@b_1029 LOL Right??? I was actually jotting down notes in FF as I went along for my symptom breakdown because otherwise everything is just so random and vague it all becomes a blur. Last real post in TTGP Ever, figure I might as well make it count! :D <div class="Spoiler"><img alt="Ted Talks GIFs - Find Share on GIPHY" src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia0.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FkvQb0oRiksFy4WxWkb%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1" title="Image: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia0.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FkvQb0oRiksFy4WxWkb%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1&nofb=1"> </div>
@BusinessWife Congratulations on your final embryo resulting in your final BFP! 3 babies in 6 years is a blessing beyond measure for anyone, IVF or not. I pray that you get to close this IVF chapter of your life with exactly as much joy as you’re feeling today & with your sweet babe in your arms.
Thank you @keikilove ((((((huge hugs)))))) I couldn't agree more; you are absolutely right about that. We have been lucky and blessed beyond measure. I say that all the time, I really don't know how we got so lucky... I like to think that we do appreciate it more when the victory is hard-fought. I will be hoping and praying that your next miracle may be right around the corner as well. ❤️❤️❤️
@meggyme Thank you so much!
@photographerwife I know!!! How wild is that!???? 😆 I was so happy to see you there, and starting to feel a little more hopeful, it was all I could do not to let the cat out of the bag! Lol. I'm so happy we get to share a BMB do-over. ((((hugs)))) <div class=" Spoiler"><img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/i5/o9fwsq1fkdg0.gif" alt=""> </div>
@BusinessWife ahhhhh so happy for you I’m actually tearing up! Have the most amazing and boring 9 months ever. Seriously the best news! Congratulations ❤️❤️❤️❤️
ETA- okay actually crying now I’m just so incredibly happy for you!
@babyodo Thank you! Rooting for you as you continue to grow your family, too! And thanks to you (and YH) for your service, love. Hope you had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend!
@daisy0322 Awww, thanks lady! <3 You are too sweet. You're going to make me cry here, too! hahah <div class="Spoiler">I thought I would share this lovely prayer with you. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.padrepio.org/pray/efficacious-novena/" title="Link: https://www.padrepio.org/pray/efficacious-novena/">https://www.padrepio.org/pray/efficacious-novena/</a> Padre Pio was a very powerful saint of our times. I had a friend from Church not too long ago ask if any of us had any special intentions she could bring with her to pray for us when she visited the Padre Pio Center in Barto, PA. I said I did have a special private intention (that Padre Pio would know what it was!), and she said she would be happy to bring it! Then I found this little novena, which is really a daily devotion. I thought it was a good one. Perhaps it may be good for you, too. <3 I am so very hopeful for you!</div> @dobiemom11 Thank you so much! Hope you and your sweet boy are doing well, mama! ;)
@lilywonderland Thanks! We haven't discussed it yet, but most likely, yes.
@BusinessWife O.M.G 😭 The mamas from the Aug2020 group are over the moon for you!! Sending congratulations and big hugs from all of us (majority still having troubles logging in w/o getting kicked out) *I hope this posts* ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
UPDATE - First beta came back positive! We are at 53.3, and today they want to see over 50. We also moved my beta up a day, so that's part of why it's maybe a bit on the lower side; it's still early. I go back Thursday when they will want to see a 66% increase, and then most likely next Friday 6/11 for our first scan! Eeep!!!
@fifilala516 Thank you so much!!! :) @brookert615 Thank you!!! So glad we will get to be in such close BMBs! <3
@anniemarie887 Thank you so much! Will be rooting for you and watching for that BFP, lady! <3
Re: TTGP Grad Announcements w/o 5/24
</b></p><p><b>CD/DPO of first
BFP?</b> 4dp5dt<span>
<b>How many months/cycles had you been TTC?</b> This weekend marks six years of being
married, and six years of TTC. </span>It took us 31 months to get our first BFP at the very end of 2018. This time around, we called the
doctor about returning to center in February 2021, so then we had a testing /
preparatory cycle in March, one FET in April, and our second (and final) in
May. </p><p>
<b>How long have you been an active participant on the TTGP
board?</b> (minimum: 3 full months) I joined in November or December of 2015
after we had been TTC for six months or so with no luck. I had already been charting BBT on paper, and eventually I downloaded FF and kept tracking… We started Napro medicine in
2016, and learned how to track my cycles with Creighton method. They did a pretty comprehensive testing workup on me. My cortisol was high (Ha!)
but nothing conclusive. Unfortunately, I felt like I
really had to advocate for a semen analysis. We did the first collection in a perforated
condom, brought it to the lab, and we waited.
We waited So Long to get the results back, I was calling the doctor, and
finally the nurse told me, the doctor thinks it’s probably a mistake, because
there was no sperm. I remember exactly
where I was sitting in the car parked outside the dog groomer when she told me
that. Of course, we had another test to
confirm / refute. I went in to get the
collection kit, and she was about to charge me $5 and I was not having it, lol I
just took the kit and left. We did a
conventional collection just to be sure there was nothing funny going on with the
sample, and it came back the same. This
time, I asked the Andrologist, and luckily the lab manager was kind enough to personally give me an (incredibly prompt) call back that same morning, just as we were walking back in the kitchen door, to unofficially confirm our diagnosis over the
phone: Azoospermia.</p>
<p>To say we were devastated
would be a start. It has been a
journey. We were hesitant to do IVF for
religious reasons, and we asked the Urologist to see if there were any surgical
repairs he could do with DH's tubes, while going in for a surgical sperm
retrieval, since I believe we had both NOA and OA components. (His FSH was almost 10, but
the tubes were also missing, too small, cut, I'm not sure what. All the genetic screenings came back
completely clear, but often there is a connection to CF carrier status, in addition
to other chromosomal factors. Ultimately in our case, there was
no known genetic cause ever found). He took
three months of Clomid leading up to his sperm retrieval procedure, to try and boost whatever
counts might possibly be there. Sure
enough, best birthday present ever!?! We
found sperm!!! But the doctor said he
was unable to make any surgical repairs.</p>
<p>So we proceeded with
IVF+ICSI, since IUI is out of the question, and surgically retrieved sperm are not developed enough to
fertilize an egg on their own. We did two back
to back IVFs for me in September of 2017.</p><p>***TW*** IVF Retrieval stats</p>
<div class="Spoiler">The first cycle yielded 18
eggs, and 3 frozen blasts. We knew we
wanted a bigger family, if possible, so we repeated. The next yielded 21 eggs and 4 frozen
blasts. We did not do PGS.</div>
<p>I have never had a successful
transfer on the first try. So if you are
someone who is discouraged, I am here to tell you, sometimes you just have to
keep trying.</p><p>***TW*** LCs</p><div class="Spoiler">We did two medicated cycles
to get our DD in 2018. We switched to
natural cycles when we returned, including one cancelled medicated cycle, to
finally, after our third FET, get our DD2 in 2020. She was my VBAC baby, so we were able to
return to treatment six months sooner in order to retrieve our last two
remaining embryos from storage.</div><p><span>
<b>What did your chart look like?</b> A hot mess! Lol It’s been hard with early
monitoring appointments messing with my schedule to get a consistent temp
time, but it was enough to see a shift. My doctors were watching for my
surge with daily bloodwork anyway, so charting wasn’t really necessary.</span></p><div class="Spoiler">ETA chart + moar gifs
<img alt="" src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/x3/4ezp2a98xqqe.jpg">
</div><p>
<b>What were you doing TGKU?</b> Levothyroxine, HCG Trigger, and supplemental progesterone (Endometrin) as part of a Natural FET protocol, plus probiotics (tablets, in addition to
eating kim chee, raw kraut, beet kvass, yogurt etc), daily avocado, *bone broth, Brazil nuts
(a natural source of Selenium), RRL tea, pom juice, beets/beet juice prior to transfer,
limiting coffee/caffeine; PNVs, DHA, Flax, CoQ10, B6, C, E, D+K, Cal/Mag,
Zinc… I’ll add more if I remember anything else; it was a lot. I also had been taking myo-inositol and
l-Arginine consistently during the previous transfer cycle, and cramp bark closer
to transfer, but I backed off of those this time, because I felt fewer reservations about taking
the more, “conventional,” vitamins, and prioritizing getting food-based nutrients, than other things that hadn’t been prescribed by my doctor. That
has generally been my pattern: I try all the things first cycle out of the
gate, then when it doesn’t work, I just do what feels good and manageable, keep
putting one foot in front of the other and… Voilà!</p><p><b>How was your timing? What symptoms did you have, if any? </b>(CS & CD breakdowns welcome)</p><p>
Five day frozen embryo transfer. I did an
HCG trigger shot in the evening, prior to ovulation, and then five days later
was transfer day! We do an abx vaginal
gel the evening prior, and then an extra 200mg compounded progesterone
suppository 1-2 hours prior. I will be
taking Endometrin through 8-10 weeks.</p><p><u>Symptom Breakdown</u>:</p><div class="Spoiler"><b>TRANSFER DAY!!! </b> The nurse said my uterus
looked, “gorgeous,” and the embryologist said the embryo was doing great! My own doctor did the transfer that day, and
she said that must be a good sign, that they both said everything looked so
good. I got a real sleepy spell on the
way home, which I was hoping would be a good sign. (But I’m also generally feeling kind of exhausted
all the time, due to keeping crazy hours with all the appointments.) Overall, I was feeling much more calm and
content this time, which I mostly attribute to having deepened my prayer life - out of necessity. I knew I was going to
have to find a way to be okay, even if this last transfer didn’t go well, so I
really had given it to God in a way that I trusted whatever outcome would be
the right one. And in a possibly crazy
way, there was a part of me that never doubted it would work this time, even though
logically, I know that it often doesn’t.
<b>1dp5dt</b> – I woke up very mildly congested, and had a slight nosebleed in the
shower, which is not normal for me.<span> I
also felt some slight cervical zaps while driving that morning, but nothing
that couldn’t be explained away or possibly just imaginary SS.
</span><b>2dp5dt </b>– I felt very warm that morning after getting out of the shower. SIL was here, and I was saying OMG it’s so
hot in here, I had to take my cardi off, but she said she thought the house
felt cool.<span> Perhaps just a fantasy, but I
saw my chubby reflection in the window outside an office building later that
day, and thought maybe I, “looked pregnant.” Lol I was still mildly congested,
but nothing outside of normal every day seasonal allergies or sinus funk.
</span><b>3dp5dt</b> – Still mildly congested, but feeling good, calm and happy! The weird thing is I was getting this strange
tingly sensation all afternoon, (Sorry to be TMI,) but like an almost aroused
sensation? I was also excited because
there was an audition that night I was getting ready for. Originally, I was trying not to test, because
if it didn’t work, I wanted to just say in that PUPO/PASP bubble, but I was
feeling so good, I decided to go for it!<span>
There was a faint line on a FRER, which was to be expected because I was
only 8 days past trigger, but it still had me feeling hopeful… I had a great
night at the audition, and experienced some mild cramping at home later that
evening.
</span><b>4dp5dt</b> – Feeling weepy / happy / emotional, and more of those tingly
feelings! I took a FRER in the afternoon,
and it was Darker!!! I cried and was
shaking, but then I had to get on a work call, so that was a good
distraction. I tried another FRER that
evening, but it wasn’t convincingly darker, although the controls also were
totally different, so I tried not to let it worry me. I was feeling some low back pain, and pain in
my right foot (that I need to get xrayed), but my quads were also sore from dancing
the night before, so I wasn’t sure if it was symptom-related, or workout
related.<span> I also had some slight pelvic
twinges at bedtime, like SPD pain, (which I had very badly with my last
pregnancy), but nothing all that definitive.
</span><b>5dp5dt </b>– The FMU FRER line was there, and maybe a little darker, but I wasn’t
too sure because it wasn’t as dark as the one from the previous afternoon. But then I thought to check, and it did show
progression from the other FMU from the previous day, so that was encouraging. My wondfos had darkened, which I knew had
been only vvvvf shadow lines last time at this point, and there was a visible line
on the Easy@home cheapie, which had been SWN at this time last transfer. I knew it was early, but I wanted to take a
digi anyway, and stupidly, I followed the directions to dip for 20 seconds, and
drowned the test! I had a feeling that
would happen, but anyway. I should have
let it go at that for the day. But I
tested again and it said, “Not Pregnant.” I called the nurse line to see if they could
get me in earlier for beta, in case it turned out to be a CP, and had to just
leave a message.<span> However, I was having
some mild cramps and very mild nausea in the evening, and my second FRER seemed
to maybe show a little progression…
</span><b>6dp5dt </b>– I had saved one last FRER for the morning, while I waited for a fresh
stockpile of tests to arrive. The line
was still there with FMU, but still not overwhelmingly dark. I tried to put it out of my mind and go about
our day, hoping my new tests would be there when we got home from Church. The nurse also called me back and said the
earliest she could move my betas was up to Tuesday / Thursday, so I had that to
look forward to as well. Sure enough, the
tests had already arrived when we got home, and I had a nice four-hour hold. I tested with the FRER first, and it maybe
looked good?? I decided to be brave and
try the digi… and it popped!!! <span>Best Anniversary
present ever! <3 I never thought I'd get to be one of those annoying people who gets a BFP on a special day like that, but here I am. lol
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How are you going to/did you tell your partner? </b> I initially texted him the first
comparison picture between 3dpt-4dpt, which I wasn’t even sure if he saw,
because the image wasn’t going through at first. And when it eventually did, the phone wasn’t showing
he had seen it, so I deleted it. But
when he came home, he asked me about it, and I lolled and showed him the tests. Over the next few days of testing, I was semi
keeping him in the loop. Once I got the digi
last night, I came downstairs and said, “Hey, check out this thing I just got
from Amazon!” LOL I know, lame. When I
showed it to him, he was happy, but still skeptical. He said he understood that the transfer had maybe
actually worked this time, but asked when we could stop worrying. Ha!
First trimester is scheduled to end around his birthday, so we will probably
plan to tell family then.
<b>Anything else to add?
</b>It’s crazy to think this is
the end of an era for us. The long,
crazy chapter in our lives that has been TTC has officially drawn to a close. We don’t have any more of DH’s samples
stored, and we won’t be going back and creating any new embryos at this point. Adoption is still on the table, as we may hope to continue to grow our family in that way as well – God willing – after
this baby arrives safe and sound. But
that’s a journey for another day. ❤️<p>Words fall short to express
how much have loved this TTGP community over the years, and I suppose that’s
why I have made a point to try to keep giving back. I have made friends who were with me every
step of the way, blow-by-blow of our trying battle with infertility, and that’s a very
special bond that is not so easily severed.
By the grace of all we had been through, I am especially grateful to
have been able to be a support for another Azoo wife when she joined TB,
AlohaKumu. <3 There have been a small handful of very severe MFI ladies on
the board, and we totally get it without
saying a word. Really though, everyone
who is here, and everyone who struggles – we may be fighting our own unique
battles, but we share so much more in common than our different diagnoses, and
I’m truly just so incredibly grateful for this community. It will always hold a special place in my
heart, and I will continue to lurk and root for everyone here, to the bitter
(or joyous!) end.</p><img alt="Happy 2nd Birthday Nerd Out - Nerd Out" src="https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnerdoutapp.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F08%2F6357875535778725211873103047_tumblr_inline_mi4wc0An6C1qz4rgp.gif&f=1&nofb=1">
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TTC #1 since 02/2020
2009 | Dx PCOS; likely a misdiagnosis
07/14/20 | Dx Hashimoto's Thyroditis
07/21/20 | 1st RE appointment
07/2120 - 08/20/20 | so much testing; no signs of PCOS
08/20/20 | Dx Unexplained; AMA
09/08/20 | IUI #1 Clomid + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
09/30/20 | Urology consult; more testing required
10/2020 | Clomid + OPK + TI + Prometrium | BFN
10/26/2020 | Starting 2nd IUI cycle, with Letrazole and with a new RE / different clinic
11/03/2020 | New Dx "poor egg quality"; IUI cancelled in favor of Trigger + TI + Prometrium | BFN
11/26/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Menopur) + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
12/20/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Gonal-F) + Trigger | IUI Cancelled due to thin lining; TI only | BFN
01/14/2021 | Combo IUI (Letrazole + Menopur) + Trigger | BFN
02/06/2021 | Switched to a new RE (TEW) ; trying naturally until we complete additional testing
03/14/2021 | Hybrid Double IUI, with Zymot (Letrazole, Gonal-F) + Trigger + Endometrin | Ovulated 4 mature eggs but still a BFN ☹️
04/07/2021 | Natural cycle while we regroup | BFN
04/09/2021 | Employer announces fertility benefits starting 05/01/2021! | Search for a new doctor who accepts insurance
05/10/2021 | New RE consult & plan for IVF
05/13/2021 | Mid-luteal IVF cycle #1 interrupted; had to get cancer genetic screening done to make sure I didn't have the same SDHA gene mutation as MH.
06/10/2021 | Aygestin priming IVF cycle #1; opted to Cx after 9 days of stims since only 5-6/12 follicles responded
07/26/2021 | Attempt #2 at IVF cycle #1 (mid-luteal start): 8 retrieved, 8 MII, 6 fert (1 PN3), 3 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 3AA, 3AA, 6AB; 3 euploid
08/09/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC | Shockingly, a BFP! EDD: 5/25/202 | CP at 4w4d
09/23/2021 | IVF cycle #2 (mid-luteal start): 14 retrieved, 13 MII, 11 fert, 5 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 2 x 3AA, 2 x 3AB, 3BB; 2 euploid
11/12/2021 | IVF cycle #3 (mid-luteal start): cancelled due to ovaries being on vacation
12/20/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC + Pregmune Immunology Testing; BFN
01/22/2022 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC + understanding uncovered immunological issues; BFN
02/18/2022 | Mock transfer cycle! ERA, ReceptivaDx, EMMA/ALICE; start Prednisone to address NK activity
03/16/2022 | Final, "Hail Mary" super-ovulation + TI cycle before FET; BFP! EDD: 12/21/2022 | MMC 05/08/2022
05/20/2022 | D&C; recovering...
06/21/2022 | Trying naturally until October 2022
07/21/2022 | BFP! EDD 04/02/2023
Oct '21 somewhat improved AMH (.51) and significantly improved FSH (8.9). Maybe it's all the pills I swallow.
Dec -21, standard antagonist. 225menupur/225gonal-f/cetrotide/5000u trigger, AFC 5; 11 days of stims. retrieval yields 5, 4M, 2 reach day-6 blast (4AB & 4BB). 1 low-level mosaic (chr. 3 deletion), 1 complex abnormal.
Feb '22 FET (low-level mosaic): CP.
May '22 egg retrieval, lupron flare protocol. HGH priming for 1 month before stims; md lupron 20/20u daily; menopur 225, follistim 225, 10k trigger after 8 days of stims; AFC 10; 13 retrieved; 10 mature; 8 fertilized. All frozen at 2PN for later thaw, grow, and biopsy.
July '22 egg retrieval same protocol: 9 days of stims; AFC 8; 10 retrieved, 8 mature, 4 fertilized and frozen.
Sept '22 ER same protocol: AFC 10; 12 retrieved, 11 mature, 11 fertilized.
From the 3 retrievals, 7 survived to day 5-6 blastocyst, from which I have 2 normal embryos!
Jan 20, Fully medicated FET, baby aspirin, dexamethasone, acupuncture, and as much woo as I can stand (which isn't very much). BFN.
July 23, Natural FET + baby aspirin. BFN.
I was thinking about you this morning @BusinessWife, and lo-and-behold, got the best news when I logged in here. Can't say much more than H&H 9 months. I hope everything goes well, and don't forget to keep lurking here. Your advice and opinions (unpopular and otherwise) are always welcome.
TTC #1 since 02/2020
2009 | Dx PCOS; likely a misdiagnosis
07/14/20 | Dx Hashimoto's Thyroditis
07/21/20 | 1st RE appointment
07/2120 - 08/20/20 | so much testing; no signs of PCOS
08/20/20 | Dx Unexplained; AMA
09/08/20 | IUI #1 Clomid + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
09/30/20 | Urology consult; more testing required
10/2020 | Clomid + OPK + TI + Prometrium | BFN
10/26/2020 | Starting 2nd IUI cycle, with Letrazole and with a new RE / different clinic
11/03/2020 | New Dx "poor egg quality"; IUI cancelled in favor of Trigger + TI + Prometrium | BFN
11/26/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Menopur) + Trigger + Prometrium | BFN
12/20/2020 | Combo IUI (Clomid + Gonal-F) + Trigger | IUI Cancelled due to thin lining; TI only | BFN
01/14/2021 | Combo IUI (Letrazole + Menopur) + Trigger | BFN
02/06/2021 | Switched to a new RE (TEW) ; trying naturally until we complete additional testing
03/14/2021 | Hybrid Double IUI, with Zymot (Letrazole, Gonal-F) + Trigger + Endometrin | Ovulated 4 mature eggs but still a BFN ☹️
04/07/2021 | Natural cycle while we regroup | BFN
04/09/2021 | Employer announces fertility benefits starting 05/01/2021! | Search for a new doctor who accepts insurance
05/10/2021 | New RE consult & plan for IVF
05/13/2021 | Mid-luteal IVF cycle #1 interrupted; had to get cancer genetic screening done to make sure I didn't have the same SDHA gene mutation as MH.
06/10/2021 | Aygestin priming IVF cycle #1; opted to Cx after 9 days of stims since only 5-6/12 follicles responded
07/26/2021 | Attempt #2 at IVF cycle #1 (mid-luteal start): 8 retrieved, 8 MII, 6 fert (1 PN3), 3 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 3AA, 3AA, 6AB; 3 euploid
08/09/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC | Shockingly, a BFP! EDD: 5/25/202 | CP at 4w4d
09/23/2021 | IVF cycle #2 (mid-luteal start): 14 retrieved, 13 MII, 11 fert, 5 Day 5 & 6 blasts: 2 x 3AA, 2 x 3AB, 3BB; 2 euploid
11/12/2021 | IVF cycle #3 (mid-luteal start): cancelled due to ovaries being on vacation
12/20/2021 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC + Pregmune Immunology Testing; BFN
01/22/2022 | Rest cycle / unmedicated TTC + understanding uncovered immunological issues; BFN
02/18/2022 | Mock transfer cycle! ERA, ReceptivaDx, EMMA/ALICE; start Prednisone to address NK activity
03/16/2022 | Final, "Hail Mary" super-ovulation + TI cycle before FET; BFP! EDD: 12/21/2022 | MMC 05/08/2022
05/20/2022 | D&C; recovering...
06/21/2022 | Trying naturally until October 2022
07/21/2022 | BFP! EDD 04/02/2023
Thank you so much! @rachelredhead @pajamstagrams
Thank you! @shawnacrest
ttc #1 11.2017
dx: unexplained
letrozole + trigger + ti: bfn x 2
iui #1 9.25.2019: bfn
iui #2 10.23.2019; bfp 11.3.2019; edd 7.17.2020
dd 7.6.2020
@rgn12 Thank you so much!!! :D
@kgg2241 Thank you!! Hope to see you on the BMBs soon, too! <3
@mamanbebe Thanks for the love. <3 I appreciate it more than you know.
@b_1029 LOL Right??? I was actually jotting down notes in FF as I went along for my symptom breakdown because otherwise everything is just so random and vague it all becomes a blur. Last real post in TTGP Ever, figure I might as well make it count! :D
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Me: 37, MH: 38; Married August 2017
TTC #1 October 2017: BFP on 12/1/2017, DD born 7/24/2018 @ 37+1 after induction due to preeclampsia
TTC #2 January 2020: AMA, dx with DOR in May 2020
IVF July 2020: 16 eggs retrieved, 14 mature, 12 fertilized, 3 blasts, 2 PGT-A normal
FET 10/7/20: BFP on 10/12/20!!! (EDD 6/25/21); First beta 10/16/20 (9dpt): 148; Second beta 10/19/20 (12dpt): 621; Third beta 10/26/20 (19dpt): 4732; Fourth (and final!) beta 11/2/20 (26 dpt): 22,000+
@BusinessWife so happy that this last transfer worked out for you!! Wishing you all the best! TW loss, preg.
You were in the august 2020 group with the loss I had, and now it looks like you’ll be in February 22 with me too! Small world!
@meggyme Thank you so much!
@photographerwife I know!!! How wild is that!???? 😆 I was so happy to see you there, and starting to feel a little more hopeful, it was all I could do not to let the cat out of the bag! Lol. I'm so happy we get to share a BMB do-over. ((((hugs))))
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Due with baby #2: Feb 2022
@daisy0322 Awww, thanks lady! <3 You are too sweet. You're going to make me cry here, too! hahah
<div class="Spoiler">I thought I would share this lovely prayer with you.
<a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.padrepio.org/pray/efficacious-novena/" title="Link: https://www.padrepio.org/pray/efficacious-novena/">https://www.padrepio.org/pray/efficacious-novena/</a>
Padre Pio was a very powerful saint of our times. I had a friend from Church not too long ago ask if any of us had any special intentions she could bring with her to pray for us when she visited the Padre Pio Center in Barto, PA. I said I did have a special private intention (that Padre Pio would know what it was!), and she said she would be happy to bring it! Then I found this little novena, which is really a daily devotion. I thought it was a good one. Perhaps it may be good for you, too. <3 I am so very hopeful for you!</div>
@dobiemom11 Thank you so much! Hope you and your sweet boy are doing well, mama! ;)
@lilywonderland Thanks! We haven't discussed it yet, but most likely, yes.
*I hope this posts*
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Diagnosed with PCOS & Hashimoto's
Congrats @BusinessWife!! H&H 9 months.
@fifilala516 Thank you so much!!! :) @brookert615 Thank you!!!
So glad we will get to be in such close BMBs! <3
@anniemarie887 Thank you so much! Will be rooting for you and watching for that BFP, lady! <3
BFP 11/30/2017 | MMC 12/31/2017
BFP 6/22/2018 | CP 6/27/2018
BFP 10/5/2018 | EDD 6/14/2019
Baby girl born 6/19/19
TTC #2 Since May 2020
BFP 7/18/2020 | MonoDi Twins | MMC 9/10/2020
BFP 11/7/2020 | CP 11/9/2020
RE Consult January 2021 | Dx "borderline DOR"/RPL
IVF with PGT:
Standard Antagonist:
ER #1 3/27/2021 7R | 5M | 3F | 2B | 1 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic
ER #2 4/22/2021 10R | 7M | 3F | 2B | 0 normal, 2 aneuploid
ER #3 5/19/2021 2R | 1M | 0F
Estrogen Priming Antagonist:
ER #4 7/10/2021 5R | 4M | 3F | 1B | 1 PGT-A Normal
Duostim (Standard Antagonist):
ER #5 9/22/2021 13R | 11M | 8F | 5B | 2 PGT-A Normal, 1 low-level mosaic, 2 aneuploid
ER #6 10/9/2021 9R | 6M | 4 F | 1B | 1 aneuploid
FET #1 11/5/2021 | EDD 7/24/2022