WTO Thursday 08/22

bluetickgal

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WAYDTGKU: 

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CS/Q: 

bluetickgal

Month/Cycle: 15/11/1 AL#2

CD: 18

WAYDTGKU: Benched...SHG next cycle and will restart Letrozole the next cycle & add in progesterone.

R/R: I decided to go from being one of the last to post yesterday to being one of the first today! We have almost made it to the weekend, and the temps are actually starting to get a bit cooler...come on Fall!! 🍁🎃🍂

CS/Q: None.

saladflambe

Good morning!

Month/Cycle: 1/1

CD: 12

WAYDTGKU: trying cycle days 10, 12, 14, and 16; will temp next month

R/R: I just realized now that we're trying, I need to stop drinking so much caffeine....nooooo!!! ...I have an energy drink problem.

CS/Q: None

rachelg777

@bluetickgal I am envious of your cooler temps, it’s been soooo hot here.
@saladflambe I have been working on caffeine too, it’s a struggle. Good luck!!

Month/Cycle: 6/4

CD: 21

WAYDTGKU: Ovusense, tracking CM & CP, OPK’s

R/R: I did make it to the gym and got a great workout in last night so that was good, not so much on the cleaning front. I got a peak/positive OPK so we decided to HIO instead. Hoping today is O day because I need a break!

CS/Q: 

jrouge12

@bluetickgal Did you just "clopen" the WTO thread?  I hated that when I worked retail but it doesn't sound too bad on TB! I'm excited for cooler temps! We have cooler weather for camping this weekend. 

@saladflambe I had that caffeine realization last month. My problem is my mug is so big! I cut back a bit but I think I'm back to where I started. School starting won't help! 

Month/Cycle: 2/2

CD: 12

WAYDTGKU: Temping, OPK

R/R: Not too much rest! We're back from our trip, I have a school related meeting this afternoon and then we're packing for camping this weekend. Leaving tomorrow! 

CS/Q: I'm wondering if because I didn't start the OPKs as early as I should have (due to traveling) I missed my LH surge? The line was lighter than yesterday and I wouldn't say it was positive yesterday.

jrouge12

@rachelg777 There are priorities when O happens! Cleaning isn't one of them...

bows22

@bluetickgal the weather has mellowed out here too, I’m not ready for summer to be over but I don’t need it to be in the 90s either!

@rachelg777 I’m still impressed with your productive evening. HIO counts as productivity!

Month/Cycle: 9/10

CD: 14

WAYDTGKU: BBT, OPKs, tracking CM

R/R: I had a list of things I wanted to do on Monday and I just completed them yesterday...but at least they are done? Having dinner with my family tonight, we were on separate vacations last week so I’m excited to see everyone. 

CS/Q: I did a lot of tossing and turning last night so I think that’s why I had a little jump. OPKs are still pretty light. 

kpearse99

Month/Cycle: 11/9 (AL)

CD: 18

WAYDTGKU: preseed, CM, PNV, EOD, Letrozole, OPK (Next cycle, trigger and IUI)

R/R: Well - just got back from the RE appointment.  It's looking like I did O (which I feel pretty certain that I did yesterday) but the blood work will confirm that and I'll get those results this afternoon.  He said that my estrogen appeared to have been on a roller coaster - the numbers were down and then up and then when they expected them to go up again they ended up going back down.  He said he wasn't overly concerned that it just meant they need to up my dose of the Letrozole for next cycle. He was very kind and extra patient today and walked me through everything, although I'm still trying to understand everything we talked about lol, and at the end he asked if I was okay with everything and with our next course of action. He said he isn't concerned or worried at all that we didn't get to do the IUI this time because we were able to time HIO pretty well and he reiterated that they don't like to fail so they will adjust the plan for next month, unless I'm pregnant this time around (he said that last part a few times!)

CS/Q: nope!

@bluetickgal this is how excited I am for it to be the weekend...

@saladflambe I was all set to offer advice on cutting back the caffeine but then I read it was from energy drinks and not from coffee!  I have no experience with energy drinks! But you can do it!!

@rachelg777 I didn't clean either last night  Guess that's going on our lists for today!

bows22

@jrouge12 what is clopen?? And I usually get a couple of darker OPKs mixed in with the light ones before I get a true positive so you may not have missed it 

bows22

@kpearse99 ugh, no. I’m sorry it looks like you already O’d. But I’m glad that you aren’t totally out and your doctor still gained some insight to be able to use next cycle if needed (and I really hope it’s not needed!)

mvt2003

Month/Cycle: 12/12

CD: 8 (You all know what that means!!! ) 

WAYDTGKU: OPKs, BBT, PNVs, SMEP, Pre-Seed

R/R: Today starts SMEP! Also, since you all know what a huge Patriots fan MH is, and they're playing tonight, does anyone want to place any bets on whether or not he makes us have the game on during SMEP tonight?!  

Feeling WAY better today, I think I'm adjusting to my lower carb intake! @tyrion_ have you done it before? It's felt pretty brutal, but I feel like there's a light at the end of the tunnel. MH has dropped some lbs this week so far, which helps my overall anxiety. I truly feel like once he loses some weight, we'll both be in a better mental place and a better place for TTC! It's been so frustrating for the last 6 months or so to feel like we're in a neverending Groundhog Day, losing the same 5 lbs over and over again. 

CS/Q: Nope, temps are still low, although I did fall asleep with the femometer in my mouth again this morning @shamrocandroll  

mvt2003

@bluetickgal I'm ready for fall too!!! 

@saladflambe Ugh so sorry! Caffeine withdrawal is the worst!! My best advice is to keep hydrating, maybe add some electrolytes to prevent headaches!

@rachelg777 Way better choice to HIO than clean IMO!! Great job on the gym too!

@bows22 hey, getting it done is getting it done!! Great job! 

@kpearse99 Have to say I your RE! FX for this month, but the nice thing is you have a plan no matter what!!! 

kpearse99

@jrouge12 we must have posted at the same time and I missed yours! Sorry!!  I've think the same thing every month I do these darn OPKs - I get a darkish line and then for the next 2 days it's way lighter and then suddenly I get a peak.  Don't stop yet!

@bows22 Clopen means Close and then Open!  We used that term a lot when I worked in the restaurant industry... when you'd be scheduled to close and then scheduled to open the next day!  @jrouge12 I haven't heard that term in a loooong time!!

@bows22 I'm slightly bummed I O'd already, for the sheer fact that we didn't get the IUI in this cycle but I am happy with our timing.  Looks like it will end up being -5, -3, 0 and +1.

@mvt2003 I really my RE too! I'm so fortunate for him! I love how optimistic he is all the time and the fact that he told me that "he knows exactly what to do with me in order to get us pregnant!"
Good luck with the SMEP!! You got this!!!

mvt2003

@kpearse99 I think we need @inthewoods23 for a May hype moment!!  

kpearse99

@mvt2003 oh we SO need that!!!!!!!!!!!

ETA: 

bluetickgal

@saladflambe good luck with the caffeine reduction! I did that with coffee a while back (reduced first, then cut it out completely, but then added it back at just 1 cup a day)...it’s definitely not easy, but you can do it!! 

@rachelg777 good job making it to the gym! HIO is way better than cleaning! Hope O is today so you can take a break though! 

@jrouge12 if you mean I closed yesterday’s and opened today’s, then yes...yes I did! ☺️ I never worked retail, but I can see where that would be no fun closing & then opening! Glad you are getting the cooler weather for camping this weekend!! Hope you have a great time! 

@bows22 true, I’m ok with some warm days, but I’m over the 90 degree temps! I want it to be nice and warm at the beach in October, but I wouldn’t be sad if it’s consistently in the 60-70’s here by then! Hey, the list is complete...that’s definitely all that matters! Have fun at dinner with the family tonight! 

@kpearse99 glad your appointment went well! That stinks you missed out on the IUI this cycle, but I’m loving your RE’s optimism!! Hope you don’t need that Letrozole increase or IUI next cycle, because there won’t be a next cycle for quite some time!! Oh my, that little pupper shaking his booty!! 😍 I’d say I’m almost that excited for the weekend too!! 

@mvt2003 So glad you are feeling better and adjusting to the lower carb! Are you doing full-on keto? I’ve been curious about it, but haven’t looked into it too seriously. 

mvt2003

@bluetickgal Thanks! Yes, we are going full keto. I've been nervous to try it, but MH has not had success with calorie counting, WW, or DASH, so we're going to try this to see if he has success. I've been double tracking my WW points and shockingly I'm right on target there. I'm hoping that the reports of not feeling excessive hunger or cravings for sweets will help both of us! 

whitealbum29

@bluetickgal - I was browsing the Target website last night and saw so many fall candles I want to buy! It felt a little early but so excited to make my house cozy in a few weeks.

@saladflambe - Cutting down on caffeine is the hardest! I've been so glad to read that most doctors seem to say you don't have to *entirely* cut it out when KU/TTC...I don't know how I would deal.

@rachelg777 - definitely a good choice!!

Month/Cycle: 12/12

CD: 14

WAYDTGKU: This month just CM, prenatals, shatavari, evening primrose oil, acupuncture. Dr's appt/some testing planned for early September so just chilling out a bit till then.

R/R: Hmm nothing super noteworthy I can think of today...just plugging along and looking forward to a busy weekend. I will say I'm enjoying not doing the OPK/logging everything in Ovia routine, it seems like I needed a month off because it just feels good!

CS/Q: nope

whitealbum29

@bows22 - have fun with your family!

@jrouge12 - I would keep OPK'ing for a couple days to see if a real peak happens!

@kpearse99 - still loving your sweet doctor! So sorry you didn't get to do IUI this month but FX it won't matter!

@mvt2003 - glad you're feeling better! Haha oh man, maybe you can get it done super super quickly during a commercial.

millpe

@bluetickgal Living in ND I am NOT ready for fall! Unless it's going to be a really long fall, but fall means it's almost winter 😭

@saladflambe I don't limit my caffeine while TTC 🤷🏼‍♀️ I still drink 2-3 cups of coffee a day. 

@rachelg777 HIO is a WAY better choice than cleaning 

@jrouge12 Its always possible you missed your surge, but it's still pretty early. They can get lighter and darker before the peak. Some people also get false surges where your body gears up for ovulation than doesn't. 

@bows22 Have fun at dinner with your family tonight!

@kpearse99 I'm sorry you didnt get to do the IUI, but fx you times HIO perfectly and will be KU and just saved the IUI money! 

@mvt2003 we had a baseball game on last week while we HIO #sexy and so relatable on losing the same 5 lbs. I'm also trying low carb, but I'm probably not being strict enough. I'm allowing myself one cheat day a week. I also started working out hard this week after a couple weeks off which always seems to make my body retain or add weight. H says its muscle building, I say its water haha 

@whitealbum29 sometimes taking a month off can be so nice and refreshing! I. Glad that its helping you!

millpe

Month/Cycle:  7/5/3 AL

CD: 17

WAYDTGKU: BBT, OPK, CM, HIO EOD, PNV

R/R: Its my Friday!! My two coworkers I actually work with/talk to are in an all day meeting and my supervisor is out sick so it should be a quiet day. Hoping I can focus and get some stuff done! Also, I did get a workout in again today! Super proud of myself this week, now I just need to keep it up and get my nutrition nailed down. I'm trying to focus more on my health and less on TTC. Since I can DO something about my health, but I can't control the TTC process. 

CS/Q: 

mvt2003

@millpe I think that's what we need with keto - you literally can't "cheat" or you'll knock yourself out of ketosis. So you really have to ask yourself if something is worth it! My "cheat days" had kiiiiind of become cheat weekends, so I needed to tighten up. I totally agree about the health/TTC thing - I can do something about my health, can't really control TTC any more than I already am. I also agree I always see an uptick on the scale when I start strength training, it's super disheartening! 

kpearse99

@whitealbum29 I took a few months off from logging every little thing in my Ovia app - it was nice! I'm back in full swing though haha

@millpe So proud of you with your workouts!! I like that mentality of focusing on a goal that you can physically do something about!

gingermama29

@bluetickgal I'm loving these cooler temps! So ready for fall weather!

@saladflambe ugh cutting down caffeine intake is so difficult.

@rachelg777 yay for peak OPK!! HIO is more fun than cleaning anyway.

@jrouge12 sounds like it'll be a fun weekend! Do you camp in an RV or a tent?

@bows22 enjoy dinner with the family! 

@kpearse99 so glad to hear you had a good appointment! And yay for good timing on your own! FX for this to be your cycle! Your RE sounds awesome.

@mvt2003 the weight loss plateaus are so frustrating! Haha DH and I are huge football fans too but hopefully you don't have to have the Pats on for SMEP. 🤣

@whitealbum29 glad taking the month off of logging is helping your stress level. 

@millpe you're a rockstar getting all those workouts in. That's such a great attitude to have about being able to control health. I need to adopt that.

Month/Cycle: 2/2

CD: 23

WAYDTGKU: BBT, CF, FF, prenatals

R/R: It's been a nice morning here. The weather is much cooler today so I took a walk to the village park and back which gave me close to 40 minutes of exercise credit on my Fitbit. Making baby steps to healthier choices!

CS/Q: my temps seem like they're all over the place to me.

bows22

@mvt2003 glad you are adjusting the low carb! we had a similar situation once with the bachelor finale before we had DVR😂 although since it’s preseason maybe he will be willing to miss it?

@kpearse99 that’s excellent timing, all things considered! 

@whitealbum29 I agree, OPKs are a pain. I’m glad you are enjoying the break from them!

@millpe That’s awesome that you are keeping the workout streak going. I have packed my lunch every day this week which is huge for me and am embarrassingly proud of myself. But it’s funny how it gets easier once you have a streak going and don’t want to break it! Enjoy your quiet day in the office!

@gingermama29 your walk sounds so nice! I would love to get in a morning walk but I already get up so early. Maybe I should start doing that on the weekends!

bluetickgal

@mvt2003 sounds good! Hope this works for you all! That’s great it’s coinciding with your WW points too.  We need to do something else, we’ve both been at a plateau for a while. Neither of us needs to lose a ton at this point (maybe 10-15 lbs each), but clearly what we are doing isn’t working to lose, just to maintain. Our cheat day also turns into a cheat weekend most of the time! If we could just get that in check, we’d probably be ok. I’m interested in hearing updates from you about keto! 

@whitealbum29 yes, I love all things Fall smelling...pumpkin, cinnamon, apple spice! Cozy is the best way to describe the feeling of Fall! I’m glad you are enjoying your cycle of not tracking! I did that a few cycles ago and it was a nice break (although I don’t do OPK’s anyways since with PCOS they are always a little positive, and it drove me crazy)! Hope the carefree cycle works perfectly for you! ☺️ Also, what you are doing for your SO’s birthday sounds awesome! 

@millpe ugh, I don’t blame you there...I hate Winter about as much as I love Fall! Hope you all have a nice long Winter this year!! Way to go on the working out again...and yay for it being your Friday!! That’s a great philosophy about being able to control your health! 

@gingermama29 your morning walk sounds wonderful!! I’m looking forward to walking in the evenings again as it gets cooler! 

rachelg777

@jrouge12 Busy Busy! I feel like my line gets really light right before it darkens to positive. Hope you didn't miss it!
@bows22 yup at least you finished it! 
@kpearse99 Your doc sounds fantastic, hopefully things work out and a higher dose isn't needed! I think my cleaning will be pushed to the weekend... 
@mvt2003 Glad you feel better today, have fun tonight! 
@whitealbum29 Glad you are enjoying your Ovia break!
@millpe Where you born and raised in ND? I was born in Minot!
@gingermama29 I bet that walk was so therapeutic, I can't wait for cooler weather strolls!

kpearse99

Ugh - just got my bloodwork results and they indicate that I did NOT O yet - because my progesterone levels were still low, at .3, instead of rising like they should after O.  But my follies shrunk from Monday to today and my LH level dropped from 12.6 on Monday to 7.9 today.... But my RE is a little baffled himself, and said that I may have O'd and it's just not showing up in my B/W yet.... or that I have not O'd yet.... or that I might not O at all this cycle.  He said to just HIO a few more times over the next few days to be safe.

I feel like I'm failing (again) - I'm just confused by it all. I thought the letrozole would ensure ovulation and all of that... 

My inner dialog right now:
"I'm okay... this is all fine... we are figuring it out... think of this as an exploratory cycle...he'll figure it out next time around....stay hopeful and excited....just have some more sex!"

rachelg777

@kpearse99 Ugh I'm so sorry that is such a mind game. When is he going to redo the blood work to see if it just hasn't shown up yet?

kpearse99

@rachelg777 I call back in 2 weeks if AF shows up or doesn't - If it shows up then I go in for my CD 3 testing and start a higher dose of letrozole. If she doesn't show up then they will do the b/w again to see if I am KU or what my levels are.  The levels then should indicate if I really did O or not, I guess? 

rachelg777

@kpearse99 ah okay yes I guess by then you would either be KU or not. Hopefully KU!! Are you temping this cycle or did you give that a break?

kpearse99

@rachelg777 I don't temp... mostly because I didn't want to drive myself even more crazy than I already am lol

Man, I really hope I just end up KU this cycle! LOL - although now I'm just really nervous I won't O at all.... which I'm trying to find out if it's even possible to be on Letrozole and not O - since it's supposed to induce ovulation...?

rachelg777

@kpearse99 I get it! I hope your bloodwork just hadn't reflected yet... I mean all your signs pointed to O! 

inthewoods23

@mvt2003 ggaaaahhh I'm here! I had to be on a customer site at 7am which means I left my house at 6 and had no time for TB! I'm finally having lunch now and it's almost 2!

MAY HYPE

@kpearse99 finding out O hasn't been confirmed but everything else doesn't make sense 😆 hope things just haven't caught up!

kpearse99

@inthewoods23 hahahah That's the EXACT picture I was thinking about when I said that my inner dialog has been "this is okay... this is fine"!!

bluetickgal

@kpearse99 so sorry for all the confusion!! Fingers crossed you did O and it was just too soon to show in your progesterone! 

gingermama29

@kpearse99 sorry for all of the confusion surrounding O. I hope you did and it was just too soon to show up in your blood work. 

mvt2003

Yaaass thank you @inthewoods23 !!! 

@kpearse99 Keeping so many good thoughts for you!!!! Hoping the bloodwork will show O! 

bows22

@kpearse99 oh no!! Why can’t anything just be clear?? Do you think if you keep doing OPKs and they show a second surge that he would have you come back in? 

saladflambe

Thanks, all, for the caffeine sympathy lol.
I spent years caffeine-free, so I know I'll survive. I'll wean myself down to 1-2 cups of coffee lol. I just want to stop the 200mg energy drink pre workout

kpearse99

@bows22 I know right??!! First the two long cycles and now this! Ugh... so frustrating! 
I’ll keep doing OPKs for the next 5 days or so and of I happen to get a surge I’ll call. It can’t hurt... although I’m not expecting any more surges.