Trying to Get Pregnant

IF Treatment and Testing- Week of 10/8

This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility, and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say. Treat this as an ongoing conversation. 


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Re: IF Treatment and Testing- Week of 10/8

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  • @LJMoon6 When I spoke to my RE he explained that with IVF they use the trigger shot and do the egg retrieval around 36 hours after and that 99.9% of the time the eggs are still there, so that was enough to convince me that I just needed to follow their timeline. I did do an OPK this time before the trigger just to make sure I hadn't started surging yet which I hadn't, so FX! I'm so glad you get to meet an RE this week!

    So I did tell my bosses about my fertility treatment. I started with the one who oversees me just as a heads up as to why I was constantly taking PTO. A couple weeks ago, I told my directors because my first IUI fell on a weekend, so that worked out, but last week I had to take 1 1/2 days off so I figured it'd be best to tell them why and so that they would know for future reasons if I still needed more time off. It's hard to know what's right but they've all been supportive. 
  • @suzycupcake I’m so sorry friend. I am thinking of you during this difficult time. Be kind to yourself and take all the time you need to process. We’ll be here for you.
  • @suzycupcake I’m so sorry to read this. It is totally understandable to cry and feel sad and defeated. You’re allowed to feel all of the feelings that come with grief and disappointment. Lean on your husband, your friends, your supports. Now is the time to be the one that needs the support, so take it. You don’t have to have the answers today. In fact now is not the moment to make any big decisions. Take some time. Process it. IF sucks. 

    TTC#1 10/2016
    TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. 
    BFP finally in 12/2018

    TTC#2 06/2021
    planning FET


    "Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
    some doors are open, some roads are blocked" 

  • @emmasemm that makes total sense to me. I’m just so happy to hear that you’re getting good quality eggs now. I’m so hoping that you find/already have that golden egg. 
    AFM, my estrogen at baseline was 18. They don’t check FSH, but LH was <0.2 at baseline and AFC was around 10. I’m hoping to get about half of that in mature eggs. We would really like to have at least 2 more embryos. 

    TTC#1 10/2016
    TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. 
    BFP finally in 12/2018

    TTC#2 06/2021
    planning FET


    "Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
    some doors are open, some roads are blocked" 

  • @avrilmai oh that sounds like a great baseline! Keeping everything crossed!
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • @suzycupcake I am so sorry. Hugs and positive vibes.
    TTC#1
    10/2018: MFI (2 SA under 9 million/ml)
    11/2018: HSG shows right Fallopian tube slightly damaged 
    1/2019: Husband diagnosed with grade 3 varicocele
    4/05/2019: varicocele repair surgery
    6/13/2019: BFP!!! EDD: 2/22/2020 <3  Baby girl born 2/27/2020
    7/18/2019: Total Motile Count at 3 months post surgery = 51 millions!! (number must be >20 millions to conceive naturally).

    TTC #2
    9/07/2021: BFP - CP: 9/10/2021
    10/07/2021: BFP - CP: 10/23/2021
    12/23/2021: BFP! EDD: 08/31/2022

  • @jrm_14 I was just thinking about you. I hope you’re well, or as well as can be at this point. 

    TTC#1 10/2016
    TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. 
    BFP finally in 12/2018

    TTC#2 06/2021
    planning FET


    "Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
    some doors are open, some roads are blocked" 

  • @suzycupcake I’m not sure what protocol that is!

    @Sparty18 oh I would love to go to New Zealand!!
  • @Sparty18 we did go to Queenstown. We took a bus from Christchurch to Queenstown so we got to see a bit more of the South Island and I'd love to go back and spend some more time on the South Island. We went bungy jumping in Queenstown. Did you do any of the "adventure" things there? I really hope the consult with the new RE can help give you some direction either to move forward with someone new or to stick with the current RE. 

    @purplg8r GL today. I hope it is good news. 

    TTC#1 10/2016
    TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. 
    BFP finally in 12/2018

    TTC#2 06/2021
    planning FET


    "Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
    some doors are open, some roads are blocked" 

  • @suzycupcake Thank you  <3

    @Avrilmai We did a few adventure things there - we went skydiving, did the Shotover canyon swing (sorta like bungy jumping - you jump off a high platform over a canyon and then the line catches you at the bottom and you swing over the river), and the jet boat.  I fell in love with that place, it felt like a fantasy land.  
  • @nitnat007 my DH does all of my injections. I have a thing about needles, but I actually really think i could do it this time around if I had to. But, he also does all of them so he gets to be involved and part of the process. I hope things work out and you have some med coverage. 
    @LJMoon6 I completely understand waiting to tell; I did until I couldn't wait. Actually at first I just said I would need a day off and I was unsure of when it would be. My boss simply asked if it was for medical reasons. I said yes and she said. okay. She then added that if I needed or wanted to talk she was open to listening. There was just something about the way she said it. I kind of had the feeling she had been through the same thing. It is such a personal thing and whatever happens I hope this is only a positive experience for you and there is no negative feedback. 
    @Sparty18 we did the jet boat too! 

    TTC#1 10/2016
    TTC/IF:included medicated cycles, IUIs and 2 rounds of IVF with 1 embryo each. 
    BFP finally in 12/2018

    TTC#2 06/2021
    planning FET


    "Some days are diamonds, some days are rocks,
    some doors are open, some roads are blocked" 

  • @nitnat007 I’m double covered on insurance too. It gets crazy!! 

    so they cancelled me.  My RE was the one who did the scan today and I’m so glad she was.  She said my lining was up to 7 but didn’t have the trilaminar pattern as well any more. She wanted to wait to check my estrogen levels before she cancelled for sure but they dropped so she cancelled it.  She spent a lot of time answering questions I have.  I start progesterone tomorrow for 10 days and wait for AF.  Then I have to take a cycle off. When I expressed concerns about how long my cycle can take and wanting get a transfer in before the end of the year, she said they’d automatically put me on progesterone on cd16 for 10 days and then once AF came we’d start an estrogen only cycle (pills, suppositories, patches and/or injections)—no bcp or Lupron. So it looks like I’ll start meds again at the end of November for a December transfer.  I was resigned to waiting when I was in the office but then I got to the store and got angry and bought all the fucking carbs.  I keep trying to tell myself that I need to do what’s best for a positive outcome.  I’ll have to stay on H’s insurance for another year and we’ll just have to deal with it. 
  • Awww @purplg8r I'm so sorry. Lots of hugs. 
    People think we become mothers when we give birth but the truth is we become mothers the moment we start calling our babies to us in our thoughts, dreams and prayers. Some paths are short and some are so long that you can easily forget where you were headed.

    How I feel all of the time.
    My 7 Year Journey ***Tw in spoiler***
    IVF
    IVF #1 - September 2018; Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide & Lupron/HCG combo trigger; PGS; ICSI
    Back on Levothyroxine
    FET #1 - October 2018; cancelled, all PGS aneuploid
    FET #1 - November 30th, transferred anyway
    Wondfo BFP 5dp5dt, CB Digi 6dpt, 
    1st Beta on 7dpt 93
    2nd Beta on 10dpt 510!

    TTC #1 since 2011. Tried for 5 years before we knew there was a one year rule.
    Diag w/MS 2016; w/PCOS & IF 2017
    New RE 2018; PCOS diagnosis taken away, IF due to ovary adhesions, but prev. RE insists PCOS IF

    IUI
    IUI #1 July 2017 w/100mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
    IUI #2 October 2017 w/50mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
    IUI #3 February 2018 w/5mg Femara+trigger; low P
    BFP February; mc March; Subclinical hypothyroid started Levothyroxine 
    IUI #4 March 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
    Medicated cycle & TI April 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
    Tried several cycles on our own; all BFN
     
  • charmedlifex3charmedlifex3 member
    edited October 2018
    Can I come join?
    Intro - (I'll put a few things in spoilers) 
    Spoilers- Previous pregnancy mentioned
    I have a two year old son and I was very very sick through his pregnancy. I went into unexplained pre-term labor with him a few times, and they were able to stop it. I had a difficult, traumatic birth, which left me with residual health issues. 
    After all that, my health continued to deteriorate. I lost all vision, in both eyes in episodes. I eventually permanently lost splotches of vision. A bevy of testing later, the verdict was Lupus, with lupus anticoagulant antibodies.  Which can make it more difficult to get and stay pregnant, and lead to pre-term labor. Ah. 
    We started TTC in January. My levels right now are pretty low, and the interventions needed during pregnancy would be reasonable. If my levels raise significantly, pregnancy would be counter-indicated.  Since January I have had four cycles in ten months. Trying to work through if this is autoimmune or the trauma. 
     

    Diagnosis (if you've been): Lupus with lupus anticoagulant antibodies 

    Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO - technically benched until the results of my tests, but those will be back before O. Did the blood work yesterday

    What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Three month retest of the Lupus anticoagulant antibodies. If my levels are the same or only slightly higher still a green light, and likely a green light 

    How are things going?:  Honestly - super stressed over the bloodwork. It's kind of a do or die situation for my future fertility, and for how LONG I have to try to make this work. 
    As hard as the pregnancy was, this TTC stress is a whole new (and not fun) world. 

    Any questions?: Hoping you all don't mind me hanging out here - I know my issue is a little different

    GTKY: What is your favorite place you’ve ever vacationed? Disney world! We went there for our honeymoon. SO much fun as just adults. 



  • @purplg8r oh I’m so so sorry. Eat all the carbs for a few days if you need to.
    Just as a hint you might want to reach out to @jamieh2000 on the low AMH thread on the IF board. She had the most crazy struggle to get her lining right but her RE (Dr Allison Rogers) basically used every trick in the book to get it right. Sounds like yours is going down the right path though to be honest.
    Also in case you are just one of those people for whom FET protocols don’t think about a mini stim retrieval protocol, or even more like an IUI with injectibles but without the IUI... as most people get a good lining on low doses of stims with trigger (and you get the boost of natural progesterone so your body is ready for all the extra...). Just throwing ideas as I’m sure you’re ready to punch something right now.

    @whatsbumpinpumpkin welcome but sorry you’re here. I’m also positive for the antibodies but I don’t have lupus (just some very weird exotic variant of RA). Have you had all the normal basic fertility tests? Day 3 FSH, E2 and AFC? AMH? Day 21 progesterone check? Do they know why your cycles are irregular? (I have fully regular cycles and was told that’s normal for most autoimmune conditions, that they typically are seen to reduce Ovarian reserve and/or to reduce implantation rates) 
    PS please also feel free to jump in and give support to others. You don’t need specific knowledge just buckets of empathy :-) 
    Me 43 DH 45
    Married 12/2016
    TTC #1 since 04/2015
    AMA, DOR (AMH 0.65, AFC 2-4) and autoimmune issues (RA, APS), low TSH, adenomyosis
    7 retrievals, 3 transfers
    Jun19 FET BFP, due date 7th March 2020, DD born Feb20
    Sep17 IVF1 - 1ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - 1ER, 0F
    Jan18 IVF3 - 3ER, 1F, 1ET, BFN
    Feb18 - second opinion and additional testing
    Apr18 IVF4 - cancelled (E2 too high)
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - 4ER, 0M, 1F, 1 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - 5 ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (not best quality)
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - 4ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen day 3 (good quality)
    Aug/Sep18 IVF7 - cancelled (cyst)
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - 3ER, 3M, 2F, 2 frozen Day 3 (excellent quality)
    Oct18 IVF8 - Cancelled (cyst and too low TSH)
    Oct18-Jan19 bringing TSH under control
    Feb19 ERA and hysteroscopy
    Mar19 Investigation for fibroid and adenomyosis
    Apr19 adenomyosis confirmed, polyps removed
    Jun19 FET after 2 months Lupron, autoimmune protocol, transferred two day 3 frozen embryos
    Sep17 - Pergoveris 10-17 Sep, Orgalutran 15-18 Sep, Ovitrelle 18 Sep, ER 20 Sep for 2 follies, 1 mature egg, fertilized, ET 1x 2d 4-cell embryo 22/09, 05/10 BFN
    Nov17 IVF2 - Pergoveris 2-14 Nov, Orgalutran 5-14 Nov, Ovitrelle 15 Nov, ER 17 Nov for 3 follies, 1 mature egg, did not fertilize
    Jan18 IVF3 - Pergoveris 30 Dec - 8 Jan, Orgalutran 5-8 Jan, Ovitrelle 9 Jan, ER 11 Jan 3 eggs, 2 mature, 1 fertilized, ET 1x 4d 12-cell embryo 15/01, 24/01 BFN
    May/Jun18 IVF4 - Rekovelle 25-29 May, Menogon 30May - 2Jun, Zomacton 25 27 29 31 May and 2Jun, Cetrotide 30May - 3Jun, Gonasi 3Jun, ER 5Jun 4 eggs, none mature, two matured overnight, 1 fertilized with ICSI, Frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jun/Jul18 IVF5 - Rekovelle 21-24 June, Menogon 25Jun-3Jul, Puregon 4-5Jul, Zomacton 21 23 25 27 29 Jun, Cetrotide 25Jun-5Jul, Gonasi 6Jul, ER 8Jul 5 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 but not good quality
    Jul/Aug18 IVF6 - Rekovelle 26-29 Jul, Menogon 30Jul-7Aug, Buserelin 26Jul-7Aug, Zomacton 26 28 30 Jul 1 3 Aug, Gonasi 7Aug, ER 9Aug 4 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized (normal IVF), 2 frozen day 3 good quality
    Sep/Oct18 IVF7 - Menogon 19-30Sep, Buserelin 19-30Sep, Zomacton 19 21 23 25 27 Sep, Ovitrelle 1 Oct, ER 3 eggs, 3 mature, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 2 frozen day 3 excellent quality 

    Fav Quote: The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return

  • charmedlifex3charmedlifex3 member
    edited October 2018
    @emmasemm I sure will! I just didn't want to barge in with comments right off and say something to hurt someone. I am waiting on some blood work now, and feeling super jittery about it, so I understand how delicate this process can make you emotions. I'm sorry you are dealing with an autoimmune as well, and have the same antibodies. It's a bit terrifying - but better to know.
    And no, they haven't done the fertility testing
    I had one suscessful pregnancy, not that long ago, my son is two, 
    so I think they are hesitant to say there is something "wrong" with my ability to conceive just yet, given my history. 
     The doctor wants to get the lupus angle under control first, hook me up with a good MFM second, and then move into a fertility specialist if needed at that point. There may be some secondary infertility from trauma, but there is so much else going on which is a "before you even get pregnant..." but those tests should be back early next week. I think the hope from everyone (myself included!) is getting the obvious autoimmune issue under control will stop my body from freaking out, and get every thing else to return to normal. 
    I had an OB suggest my husband should just get a vasectomy. Completely callous. If can't have a baby, we can't... but all the other specialist so far have given the green light pending a retest on my antibodies to track the progression. Fingers crossed for slow or none! My levels were relatively low, so praying they are still low, and not ticking up quickly. 
    All of this kind of hit the fan right as we started TTC in January. :( 

    @suzycupcake That sounds heartbreaking. I hope you are able to find a way to soothe your heart in this time :( 
    @Sparty18 I can't even imagine skydiving. On one hand it sounds like a GREAT experience, but I feel like I would absolutely freak out, lol. 
    @LJMoon6 That is the one good thing about my issue being what it is... it's Lupus. No one questions you going to the doctor for lupus. Is there a way to tell your boss you have a personal medical condition which requires treatment - don't worry, it's not serious, but I will need some time off? I don't think legally they can require you to disclose the diagnosis. 
    @Avrilmai I don't have a thing about needles, but my DH does. Eek, lol!
    @emmasemm I also work in a very very male dominated world. I have a little more flexibility since I recently changed jobs, but my last job was on a big office park type of floor and there was never anyone else in the ladies room. It was weird to run into someone else.... That's a sign!
    @purplg8r Carbs can't fix everything but they sure make it easier to cope with. What's your favorite? Mine are tiny pretzels. Usually then dipped in something ridiculous. 



  • Edited so as not to hurt anyone else! 



  • Welcome @whatsbumpinpumpkin! I'm sorry you find yourself here. Another autoimmune sister; me with MS. That was completely insensitive for a Doctor to say such a thing to you after taking an oath to do no harm. Glad he/she was a 'had' rather than a 'have'. 
    People think we become mothers when we give birth but the truth is we become mothers the moment we start calling our babies to us in our thoughts, dreams and prayers. Some paths are short and some are so long that you can easily forget where you were headed.

    How I feel all of the time.
    My 7 Year Journey ***Tw in spoiler***
    IVF
    IVF #1 - September 2018; Follistim, Menopur, Cetrotide & Lupron/HCG combo trigger; PGS; ICSI
    Back on Levothyroxine
    FET #1 - October 2018; cancelled, all PGS aneuploid
    FET #1 - November 30th, transferred anyway
    Wondfo BFP 5dp5dt, CB Digi 6dpt, 
    1st Beta on 7dpt 93
    2nd Beta on 10dpt 510!

    TTC #1 since 2011. Tried for 5 years before we knew there was a one year rule.
    Diag w/MS 2016; w/PCOS & IF 2017
    New RE 2018; PCOS diagnosis taken away, IF due to ovary adhesions, but prev. RE insists PCOS IF

    IUI
    IUI #1 July 2017 w/100mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
    IUI #2 October 2017 w/50mg Clo+trigger; BFN; benched w/big cysts
    IUI #3 February 2018 w/5mg Femara+trigger; low P
    BFP February; mc March; Subclinical hypothyroid started Levothyroxine 
    IUI #4 March 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
    Medicated cycle & TI April 2018 w/7.5mg Femara+trigger; BFN
    Tried several cycles on our own; all BFN
     
  • @Sparty18 That's good news! Fx for you!! 
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