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Candidate for VBAC? Your experiences?

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The only thing I have ever wanted was to be a mom. And I finally got that with my son, though I had pictured his entrance into the world quite differently. I was induced at 42 weeks. My labor was 43 hours long. My water was broken at 26 hours. Everything was done to try to get me to dialate, peanut ball, cervical balloon, repositioning etc. And I only made it to 4cm before his heartrate started decelerating with each contraction. And he wasnt breech, he came out with a cone head. I desperately want to have this baby naturally, I hated not getting to hold my sweet boy until I was in the recovery room, hated the drugs that took so many precious first memories. I KNOW they didnt respect my wishes for delayed cord clamping. Thank god for the newborn photographer. But my husband, MIL and even OB say that it doesn't look likely and probably should just  have the c section. Recovery was so so hard last time, and they say it should be a breeze if labor does not accompany it, however OB says that I can try labor if I want to. Why can't I hold my baby right away? I am seriously crying about this. Has anyone had a similar experience and was able to do it naturally the second time? And if I cant, then how do I make it so that I can hold my baby right away and they don't clamp the cord as soon as he or she is out?

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  • By naturally, do you just mean vaginally? Or med-free? I know several people who have had C-sections and we're able to hold the baby right away. Let your doctor know that's important to you and see what they say. I don't know anything about delayed cord clamping with a CSection though. 
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    Yep, just vaginally. Sorry, I went 7 hours with pitocin contractions and said gimme the epi.

    Eta: I have heard of that, but DS was covered in meconium and that probably had something to do with it. Though after suctioning, I'd have liked to have held him.

    It is because of the meconium thing I am leaning towards just scheduling for 40 weeks and not waiting to see if labor starts by 41 weeks. Decisions decisions.
  • My understanding is that many hospitals, particularly "baby-friendly" hospitals are recently developing policies where immediate skin-to-skin is required for all deliveries. Obviously, there would be exceptions when the baby or mom needs immediate medical attention. 
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  • You might get better responses if you change your thread title to something about VBAC. I'm sure there are people here with experience who could give you good advice while you're making your decision. 
  • We're accredited as baby-friendly and still there is no way to hold the baby immediately, or do skin to skin in most cases. To be frank, in a c-section you are having major surgery and the open abdomen and sterile field take precedence over immediate bonding with baby. It sucks. It would definitely be something I would struggle with if I have a c-section this time around, but I know that there are literally no other options for me so it is what it is. If they don't let you hold the baby, can you request a clear drape so you can see the moment baby is born? We have those and you just see baby being born and then they put the other drape back up. It at least helps a bit for that disconnect from the birth. 
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  • Research a gentle csection. Although fairly new, they are growing in popularity and many major hospitals are offering them as a choice. It is something I really want with this csection. They deliver baby slightly different but main thing is they try to make the OR experience as much like the regular delivery room as they can. They will delay cord clamping and place baby on mom chest and initiate breastfeeding all while still in the OR. 
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  • I have no experience with vbac but totally understand wanting your baby asap! With my first I didn't get her until I was stitched up and I got to hold her on the way to recovery. My second I expressed to my nurses before we went in the OR that I wanted the baby as quick as possible and as soon as he came out they delayed cord clamp, I heard him cry and they brought him to my face, he calmed and I spoke to him. It was one of the most amazing moments and completely unforgettable. Then they took him to do suction and what not. It def wasn't immediate skin to skin but it was special and I plan to request it again. It will be my third and last. New hospital so unsure of their policies. Good luck in your decision process. I would have tried for a vbac if I was a candidate but I have other issues that don't make it a good idea. 
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  • I am also hoping for a vbac this time.  My son was surprise breech and we only found out after 19 hours of labour with 0 progress.  I just found a vbac friendly OB  (who I have yet to meet with but has a great reputation) so will be meeting with him to see what his policy is on all aspects.  My kids will be between 20-21 months apart.  I know most Drs like at least an 18 month gap.
    @carsonsmommy why are they saying you aren't a good candidate?  How far apart are you kids?  I had a lot of pent up emotions over my c section as well but have been able to let a lot go.  Of coarse it's always a possibility but I think going into a c section, or even the chance of one and having a birth plan that everyone is on board with will help ease an anxiety I have about it.  I didn't get to see my son until I was out of recovery.  That's is probably what I have struggled with the most.  So many people saw, and held him before I got to.  They never offered skin to skin with my husband (which looking back I should have made known I wanted) and my baby was fully dressed by the time I got to hold him.  
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  • Thanks guys, your responses help me to mentally prep, and I have started a list of questions to ask my ob about what she can and can't do to make it better. @MrsN092714 he was head down and wasn't breech, so the fact that I only made it to 4cm is discouraging. Both OBS think it is because of a small pelvis, yet I have known other size 0 women have given birth vaginally, so I don't know what is wrong with me.
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  • @carsonsmommy if a VBAC is something you really want, I wouldn't let someone's telling you that you have a small pelvis stop you from trying.  There is a good chance he wasn't properly engaged and that was keeping you from dilating.  My son was breech and not engaged at all, after 19 hours of contractions that were a min long and 2-3 apart, I wasn't so much as a fingertip.  They never counted it as failure to progress for the very reason that he wasn't engaged.  Like you said, there are some pretty tiny women out that that deliver vaginally.  Maybe looking into a different OB is an idea.  I have heard that a scheduled section is way better, and like I said before going with with a plan and having everyone one board will totally change the way you look at it.  C sections can be beautiful births as well and don't let the feelings you have towards your last make you think otherwise.  Do what's best for you, but don't think you can't  explore your options.
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  • @CarsonsMommy
    You should definitely keep your options open if it matters to you this much. You should try to have the best experience you can and you never know there may be ways around this. I looked into hospitals first and then decided on my OBGYN because certain hospitals have set rules that cannot be broken. Those rules may not be what you wish to adhere to so I agree with the above if you can, try looking into another hospital or OBGYN. 

    Good luck! I really hope you get your way around this so you are able to experience it the best way according to you. But just in case  prepare yourself mentally because at the end of the day all that matters is a healthy beautiful baby and none of our experiences can or should overshadow that. 
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  • I had almost the same exact experience as you: I started going into labor around 42 weeks and so when I checked into the hospital for my induction, they just let me labor without any intervention. 25 hours later, they broke my water. By 32 hrs the baby's head repositioned so we tried to reposition. By 50 hours I was still at 7cm, exhausted, and not progressing. We went for a csection and it was a horrible experience. 
    The baby was healthy and big - almost 11 lbs - and honestly, I'd probably be a pretty good candidate for a vbac and my doctor doesn't blame it on my small hips... but at this point, I have had 5+ years to work through that trauma and disappointment and I'm ready to roll up to the hospital for my scheduled rcs and welcome this baby relatively well-rested and present. I'm not even going to try and see if these small hips can do it because the thought of welcoming this baby under the same conditions as the last one terrifies me. 

    A C/S isn't a lesser way of giving birth - you are still giving birth to a baby. My suggestion would be to talk to a therapist to work through some of the trauma you experienced so you can sort out what exactly you need to plan for and what you want out of this next delivery.

    q: I can see why the gentle cs approach and holding your baby immediately is something people would want to do, but why cord cutting? 
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  • I had almost the same exact experience as you: I started going into labor around 42 weeks and so when I checked into the hospital for my induction, they just let me labor without any intervention. 25 hours later, they broke my water. By 32 hrs the baby's head repositioned so we tried to reposition. By 50 hours I was still at 7cm, exhausted, and not progressing. We went for a csection and it was a horrible experience. 
    The baby was healthy and big - almost 11 lbs - and honestly, I'd probably be a pretty good candidate for a vbac and my doctor doesn't blame it on my small hips... but at this point, I have had 5+ years to work through that trauma and disappointment and I'm ready to roll up to the hospital for my scheduled rcs and welcome this baby relatively well-rested and present. I'm not even going to try and see if these small hips can do it because the thought of welcoming this baby under the same conditions as the last one terrifies me. 

    A C/S isn't a lesser way of giving birth - you are still giving birth to a baby. My suggestion would be to talk to a therapist to work through some of the trauma you experienced so you can sort out what exactly you need to plan for and what you want out of this next delivery.

    q: I can see why the gentle cs approach and holding your baby immediately is something people would want to do, but why cord cutting? 
    It sounds you are in the same mind frame as I am. On one hand, I could possibly have the experience I weirdly always wanted, but on the other I could have a laid back CS experience and be able to better bond with baby post birth. I just don't want to feel like I might have cheated myself of a vaginal birth later down the line. I know that the recoveries for you and I were so bad because of the combined incision healing and extreme exhaustion from such a prolonged labor. Wow lady, 11 lb baby, good for you! My Lil guy was 7 lbs 10 oz. I really admire your level headed-ness on this particular subject and I have 23 weeks to decide, but though my logical sise tells me this is the best way, there is still that darned hopeful side. I will talk to my OB further on what her prodocol is for CS, and also let her know what I want.

    Delayed cord clamp is reccomended in most except emergency situations, and is where doctor does not clamp the cord until all blood from the placenta stops flowing from mom to baby. Gives baby more blood, and helps to protect from anemia and also jaundice etc.
  • I had an emergency c-section with my first son due to placental abruption during induction and it was absolutely miserable, I wasn't even awake during it which made it even worse and the recovery was hell. Even though the first time went so horribly wrong, I knew that with my second,  I didn't want to be put in that emergency situation again so I opted for a scheduled c-section. Things were completely different the second time around, I was fully awake, things were calm, and just overall went so much smoother. If you choose the c-section this time, I would make sure that you discuss with your doctor your wishes beforehand and see if it's a possibility that they be met, things may have gone differently last time because it was an emergency. I have known many women to have had c-sections that got to do skin to skin, when I had my second son, I didn't do it, but I never asked because I didn't realize that it was possible until afterwards. People have successful vbacs all the time, but just know that things could end up going the same way as they did the first time and then you may not get that chance for things to be how you want. 
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    I am also a VBAC hopeful. My first was breech from basically the a/s on I kid you not (and I did everything in my power including a painful version to try to turn her) so when I went into labor at 38 weeks I had a c section. Now my issues I had that made it bad was 1) I was at a teaching hospital and a newb gave me my spinal and I couldn't feel anything up to my neck so no holding my child or even feeling her when she was born and 2) whatever liquid they make you drink before I reacted violently to and threw up involuntarily during the entire procedure. So I could hardly focus on my baby because I was throwing up so much and couldn't hold or feel her. It sucked balls. 

    Now I am considered one of the best candidates for VBAC because I did go into labor on my own but I only had to have a section due to breech before labor got any further than water breaking (which happened on the walk to the OR). That doesn't mean much if he turns breech of course or X, Y or X happens between now and then. 

    Bit it there are some things hospitals and doctors are doing now you can request. They have family friendly c sections with clear drapes to watch the baby coming out and you can do delayed cord clamping (I did) and hold the baby right after now in most cases. Ask for an experienced doctor to give the spinal or epidural. I will have all this on my birth plan and discuss it prior to any VBAC attempt or c section if I have to schedule. 

    All that that said I had no issues with her nursing immediately and we had tons of skin to skin in the recovery room. I was pretty devastated when I had to come to terms with having a c section from wanting a drug free vaginal birth but doing a lot of research and planning helped a lot.

    As as others have said most have a much much better experience with a planned section than their emergency if they had to have it and the recovery is much easier. My recovery was not bad at all- I only took Motrin and Tylenol all 3 days in the hospital and was up 6 hours post and mine was basically a scheduled c section since I didn't do more than early labor (no pushing or any effort at all). All things to consider and you have plenty of time to research and discuss it!
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  • @KelAnn310

    This was my experience almost to a T. I was in labor for 14 hours before they did an emergency c-section and the epidural only worked on one side so I went under general. I lost blood and had to have transfusions and it was ugly. My daughter was born at 10:30 but I wasn't  awake and out of recovery until almost 2am. And when I woke up I had no pain killers, I wasn't loopy and in sooo much pain. I remember when the nurses came in after about a half hour and starting the morphine asking if I wanted to see my daughter I told her no (the moment I had been dreaming about for much, much longer than 9 months). I will never forget that.

    With my second I had a scheduled c-section and it was night and day. I was awake, I got to see him when they pulled him out, I lost blood again but was out of recovery with no pain after about a half an hour. My pain was so much easier to manage. Unfortunately he had to wear an oxygen hood the first hour so I still didn't get to hold him right away but as impatient as I was I was only thankful he was getting the care he needed.

    And I know I am different on this but the birth experience never mattered much to me. While I'd love to avoid general anesthesia again and hold my babies sooner it was such a short and little time in the grand scheme. To me, I got to healthy babies I get to hold as much as I want. That's all I care about. And I am NOT a candidate for VBAC and that doesn't bother me in the slightest. 





  • Add me to the VBAC hopefuls list. I am a good candidate because after 30 hours pf contractions/being induced she was lateral transverse (looking sideways instead of back/down). My only stipulation is that I won't be induced again. So if I don't go into labor naturally by 41w3d, I will have a scheduled c-section. I just hope this kiddo cooperates. 

    My recommendation is to find a doctor and a hospital that is supportive of what you want. Make sure your SO is ready to be a strong advocate for what you want in the moment. 
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  • I was hopeful for a vbac with my second but she was a stubborn little thing and I hadn't made any progress at almost 42 weeks so I had a RCS. definitely ask your doctor questions about their policies- how long will they let you go? Will do they any sort of induction/ intervention (mine would not)? In the end, of course baby here safely was what really mattered but I'd be lying if I didn't say I was bummed. Holding the baby right away was my main reason for wanting a vbac. Honestly I had a better experience with my first because I was a better advocate for wanting baby right away- I told everyone I saw to gimme the baby. I had her on my chest as I was wheeled to recovery. With my second I wasn't as assertive (because I wasn't as comfortable with my doctor / hospital) and they took her to the nursery for a long time. That was tough. So my number one piece of advice no matter which way baby gets here is to advocate for yourself, and even more importantly get your partner on the same page so he can be your voice. Don't be afraid to be pushy, its your baby!
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  • I had a c/s with my first (VBAC with 2nd).  She was in distress when she first came out (and apparently, so was I--I couldn't stop shaking).  As soon as they had her and I under control, they brought her right to my husband to hold.  Then they moved my gown, and we had skin to skin.  It was a little awkward, because I couldn't sit up and physically hold her in my arms.  But, she was on my bare chest, and it was an amazing feeling.  I'm hoping to have another vbac, but if not, I would definitely ask for a similar experience.
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  • I had a c/s with my first (VBAC with 2nd).  She was in distress when she first came out (and apparently, so was I--I couldn't stop shaking).  As soon as they had her and I under control, they brought her right to my husband to hold.  Then they moved my gown, and we had skin to skin.  It was a little awkward, because I couldn't sit up and physically hold her in my arms.  But, she was on my bare chest, and it was an amazing feeling.  I'm hoping to have another vbac, but if not, I would definitely ask for a similar experience.
    This may actually be from the drugs. I was shaking uncontrollably, and from what I've heard, it's pretty common. 

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  • I had almost the same exact experience as you: I started going into labor around 42 weeks and so when I checked into the hospital for my induction, they just let me labor without any intervention. 25 hours later, they broke my water. By 32 hrs the baby's head repositioned so we tried to reposition. By 50 hours I was still at 7cm, exhausted, and not progressing. We went for a csection and it was a horrible experience. 
    The baby was healthy and big - almost 11 lbs - and honestly, I'd probably be a pretty good candidate for a vbac and my doctor doesn't blame it on my small hips... but at this point, I have had 5+ years to work through that trauma and disappointment and I'm ready to roll up to the hospital for my scheduled rcs and welcome this baby relatively well-rested and present. I'm not even going to try and see if these small hips can do it because the thought of welcoming this baby under the same conditions as the last one terrifies me. 

    A C/S isn't a lesser way of giving birth - you are still giving birth to a baby. My suggestion would be to talk to a therapist to work through some of the trauma you experienced so you can sort out what exactly you need to plan for and what you want out of this next delivery.

    q: I can see why the gentle cs approach and holding your baby immediately is something people would want to do, but why cord cutting? 
    It sounds you are in the same mind frame as I am. On one hand, I could possibly have the experience I weirdly always wanted, but on the other I could have a laid back CS experience and be able to better bond with baby post birth. I just don't want to feel like I might have cheated myself of a vaginal birth later down the line. I know that the recoveries for you and I were so bad because of the combined incision healing and extreme exhaustion from such a prolonged labor. Wow lady, 11 lb baby, good for you! My Lil guy was 7 lbs 10 oz. I really admire your level headed-ness on this particular subject and I have 23 weeks to decide, but though my logical sise tells me this is the best way, there is still that darned hopeful side. I will talk to my OB further on what her prodocol is for CS, and also let her know what I want.

    Delayed cord clamp is reccomended in most except emergency situations, and is where doctor does not clamp the cord until all blood from the placenta stops flowing from mom to baby. Gives baby more blood, and helps to protect from anemia and also jaundice etc.
    I hear you on the pros and cons of trying for a vbac. I was very much focused on trying to have a vaginal delivery as well. I'd definitely suggest talking to someone to try and identify why you value a vaginal delivery and unpack why you'd feel like you're "cheating" yourself out of one. I went through the same thing and I couldn't talk about or even think about DD's delivery without crying until she was about 3 or almost 4. Stories of gentle c/s and rcs really helped me see that in the end, a healthy baby was the most important and I do not want to welcome this baby with the same negativity as the last go-around. Also, there are no badges of honor for a vaginal delivery. 



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  • Also, yeah I know what delayed cord clamping does but was wondering if there were more to that because again, that was something I was insistent on in my birth plan as well, but I can tell you this much - it didn't really make a difference for us either - she was healthy and grew up to be an extremely healthy, smart, and curious kid! 
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  • And to add, I'm don't want to be discouraging, It's all hard and the trauma is real, but it's up to us to work through our emotions and make sure we have the right tools and resources in place to deliver a healthy baby. I was a wreck for a long time after and it took a long time to come to terms with it, and I imagine you were too, so I'd just recommend you be gentle with yourself and try to get the help you need. 
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  • I made a VBAC hopefuls thread earlier on that got tons of responses. Lots of us on this board it seems! I wish there were more success stories out there lol. 

    I guess, for me, I never dealt with any disappointment from my ECS (or maybe I did? It sucked that it happened the way it did--it was traumatizing --but vaginal birth was most definitely not an option and that helped me get over it quickly).
     I am a good candidate this time around and I plan on giving it a shot assuming this baby cooperates with position, and I go into labor on my own before 41 weeks. But if I end up with another CS, I know I won't be devastated or anything. I'll have to really think about how many kids I'll want to have in the future since I don't think I'm brave enough to try for a VBA2C. 

    I'm sorry this is such a sore spot for you. But as others have said, c-section birth can be made special too.
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  • I had almost the same exact experience as you: I started going into labor around 42 weeks and so when I checked into the hospital for my induction, they just let me labor without any intervention. 25 hours later, they broke my water. By 32 hrs the baby's head repositioned so we tried to reposition. By 50 hours I was still at 7cm, exhausted, and not progressing. We went for a csection and it was a horrible experience. 
    The baby was healthy and big - almost 11 lbs - and honestly, I'd probably be a pretty good candidate for a vbac and my doctor doesn't blame it on my small hips... but at this point, I have had 5+ years to work through that trauma and disappointment and I'm ready to roll up to the hospital for my scheduled rcs and welcome this baby relatively well-rested and present. I'm not even going to try and see if these small hips can do it because the thought of welcoming this baby under the same conditions as the last one terrifies me. 

    A C/S isn't a lesser way of giving birth - you are still giving birth to a baby. My suggestion would be to talk to a therapist to work through some of the trauma you experienced so you can sort out what exactly you need to plan for and what you want out of this next delivery.

    q: I can see why the gentle cs approach and holding your baby immediately is something people would want to do, but why cord cutting? 
    It sounds you are in the same mind frame as I am. On one hand, I could possibly have the experience I weirdly always wanted, but on the other I could have a laid back CS experience and be able to better bond with baby post birth. I just don't want to feel like I might have cheated myself of a vaginal birth later down the line. I know that the recoveries for you and I were so bad because of the combined incision healing and extreme exhaustion from such a prolonged labor. Wow lady, 11 lb baby, good for you! My Lil guy was 7 lbs 10 oz. I really admire your level headed-ness on this particular subject and I have 23 weeks to decide, but though my logical sise tells me this is the best way, there is still that darned hopeful side. I will talk to my OB further on what her prodocol is for CS, and also let her know what I want.

    Delayed cord clamp is reccomended in most except emergency situations, and is where doctor does not clamp the cord until all blood from the placenta stops flowing from mom to baby. Gives baby more blood, and helps to protect from anemia and also jaundice etc.
    I hear you on the pros and cons of trying for a vbac. I was very much focused on trying to have a vaginal delivery as well. I'd definitely suggest talking to someone to try and identify why you value a vaginal delivery and unpack why you'd feel like you're "cheating" yourself out of one. I went through the same thing and I couldn't talk about or even think about DD's delivery without crying until she was about 3 or almost 4. Stories of gentle c/s and rcs really helped me see that in the end, a healthy baby was the most important and I do not want to welcome this baby with the same negativity as the last go-around. Also, there are no badges of honor for a vaginal delivery. 



    The recovery was terrible. I cried from intense pain for months while having to care for my son. I couldn't have sex without alot of pain for about 8 months to a year, and even now, it isn't super pleasant because my cervix hurts each time. That is why I wish for a normal delivery, I wish I could avoid all of that.
  • @CarsonsMommy are you still nursing? I couldn't have sex for almost 8 months and didn't enjoy at all for about 15 mo - when I weaned. It felt like sandpaper up until then. 
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  • I had a c/s with my first (VBAC with 2nd).  She was in distress when she first came out (and apparently, so was I--I couldn't stop shaking).  As soon as they had her and I under control, they brought her right to my husband to hold.  Then they moved my gown, and we had skin to skin.  It was a little awkward, because I couldn't sit up and physically hold her in my arms.  But, she was on my bare chest, and it was an amazing feeling.  I'm hoping to have another vbac, but if not, I would definitely ask for a similar experience.
    This may actually be from the drugs. I was shaking uncontrollably, and from what I've heard, it's pretty common. 

    Oh, it was definitely from the drugs!  But they wouldn't let me hold her until I stopped shaking.  

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    @CarsonsMommy I think csection recovery is different from baby to baby just as vaginal deliveries are. Just because your recovery last time was hard doesn't mean this one will be. My second csection recovery was much easier than my first. I even walked around and trick or treated with my 2 year old the day I got home from the hospital. On the flip side I have friends that due to tearing and/or episiotomies their recovery from their vaginal birth was much worse than my csection recovery. It's painful and a major strain on the body either way. Just be hopeful it'll be better this time! 
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  • Thanks guys, your responses help me to mentally prep, and I have started a list of questions to ask my ob about what she can and can't do to make it better. @MrsN092714 he was head down and wasn't breech, so the fact that I only made it to 4cm is discouraging. Both OBS think it is because of a small pelvis, yet I have known other size 0 women have given birth vaginally, so I don't know what is wrong with me.
    I had almost the exact same experience with my first.  Induced at 41 weeks, strong labor for 20 hours, water was broken a few hours in, and I never made it past 4cm either.  Dr. told me the same thing.  I am a size 0, with a "small pelvis" and was told that a vaginally birth was not an option for me.  I had my second DD with a scheduled C section.  My kids were very close together (14 months) which was another reason they discouraged me from trying for a VBAC.  As far as holding the baby in the OR, my arms were tied down, as was my head.  But my DH was allowed to carry the baby over to show me, and place them against my cheek right after delivery.  It really seems to be a hospital based policy considering how everyone has had very different experiences.  Anyway I wish you a lot of luck if they allow you to go VBAC, I do regret not trying harder for one with my second.   Its also nice to hear someone's story that is so strikingly similar to mine. You aren't alone.
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