"I know so many people that got pregnant when they stopped trying." UGH SHUT UP!
Me: 35 DH: 36 Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes DH: severe MFI Married and TTC since 2/15 Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing. Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
Have you tried <insert totally basic remedy--like folic acid--that you've already been trying for months and months>
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
"It will happen when its meant to happen. Just relax."
I have said some very ugly things in response to this....
Me: 31 Husby: 36 Married May 2014 TTC # 2 Since December 2021 Baby girl W born 2/2021 Our journey so far... (tw loss & infertility)
Diagnosis: Poor Egg Quality Working with an RE since March 2016 2 failed TI cycles 3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017 23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17 BFP 4.21.17 MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey: 12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted! 5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house! 1.1.20 Homestudy process started 3.14.20 First social worker visit 5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test! Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
All from in laws: "This is God's plan for you" "Just stop trying so hard" "Think positive and it will happen" "Just relax" "Have you thought of adoption?" "Have you thought of going to church?" "Maybe you're not meant to have children" "It will happen when the times right"
My husband gets the question at work from time to time: "Do you need me to do the job for you?"...blehh...makes me barf thinking about someone saying that to him. He gets so mad when someone says that.
2 Laps and 1 Abdominal Myomectomy 6 rounds of clomid 5 rounds of iui Several HSG's sprinkled throughout the years to up my chances of a BFP Several dilation of cervix because they suspect the scar tissue is hindering it from fully opening (partially adds to the severe cramps all month) IVF #1 Gonal F, Menopur and Cetrotide ER 12/1/2016
ER-Retrieved 22 eggs 10 fertilized 4/4 day 5 embryos were normal for PGS!!! 2 boys/2 girls FET 1/10/2017 Gallbladder surgery 1/10/2017 FET estimated end of Feb, beginning of March
My blood pressure is rising reading all of these. lol I actually had one blood tech ask if I was there "to see if my husband did his job."
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
OMG @Winnie81 - re the question your husband gets at work. That is disgusting! So gross and insensitive!
The comments that get to me the most are always about semen. Like when a guy is bragging about knocking his wife up on the first try, and makes some comment about how strong his swimmers are. For some reason, those kind of comments are the most obnoxious to me.
The other ones, like: "happened so fast for us!" or "just relax" bug me, but I'm happy to refute them with a quick one liner, like: "Sounds like you're bragging." Or "There's no evidence that stress impacts infertility - actually the correlation is that infertility causes stress."
But something like: "My swimmers are so strong" makes me want to say: "Too bad your brain cells aren't." which is too much - just a little too far.
Now that most people know we have done and are doing fertility treatments I don't get many of the "stop trying and it will happen" or just relax. I get have you thought about adoption?!?! Like it's just so easy to give up on having your own baby and it's so easy to just adopt. Not to mention that we've spent all of our money on fertility treatments!!!!! Or people that say "I know what you're going through, it took us a while" and in reality they got pregnant in like 5-6 months without any outside help- umm no you have no clue what 9 years worth of fertility treatments is like!!!!
TTC for 8 years. Started in 2008 with timed intercourse, ovulation testing, no official monitoring. OB-GYN recommended Clomid and timed intercourse, attempted for 6 straight months. First surgery June 2009 (OB-GYN): diagnosed with stage 4 endometriosis and large hydrosalpinx on right tube. Second surgery (July 2009, RE performed this): Right tube had to be removed, lots of adhesions removed. Attempted "trying on our own" as per RE recommendations, unsuccessful 5-6 months. HSG performed December 2009: left tube open. February 2010: started Femara and timed intercourse, attempted 6 months, no BFPs. Took a break for a while. January 2011: started IUI process, ovaries never properly responded to medications, 6 failed attempts, never actually completed an IUI. Took 2012-2014 off due to depression and frustration (side note: did complete grad school to become a nurse practitioner- great distraction). 2015: started seeing RE again, went through tons of testing and HSG, left tube now blocked, only option is IVF. September 2015: Started first official IVF cycle, cancelled in October due to large cyst on left ovary. October 2015: started on birth control for 2 months. December 2015: attempted to start another IVF cycle, cysts on both ovaries on initial ultrasound, left was huge, cancelled to aspirated cyst. January 2016: Cyst back, surgery for ex-lap, cyst and adhesions removed. March 2016: Attempted second IVF cycle, estrogen way too high, cyst back, cancelled again. April 2016: Third attempted IVF cycle, 7 eggs retrieved, 2 mature (but not great) embryos made to fresh transfer, neither implanted. May-Sept 2016: Break to regain sanity. Sept-Oct 2016: Attempted fourth IVF cycle, very successful, cyst still on left but we ignored. 7 mature "great looking" eggs retrieved, 4 mature embryos made it to day 5 transfer. Transfer aborted due to large amount of endometriosis fluid in uterus. FET of 2 embryos completed on 12/12/16. 12/22/16 1st Beta 179 BFP!!! 12/24/16 2nd Beta 449!! EDD 8/30/17 with two girls!!!!!
Audrey (4lb 8oz) and Olivia (6lb 6oz) born 8/10/17!!
CP #1- due April 2017 lost 5.5 weeks cp #2- due May 2017 lost at 4.5 weeks iUI #1- BFN IUI #2-BFN IVF#1- transfer 2- BFP! Due October 2017 c/p#3 lost at 3.5 weeks
My personal favorite is pretend like you're not trying! To which I say, that won't work because I'd drink a bucket of coffee every day and a bottle of wine every night
Only my mom and a couple of friends know my challenges. My mom is in denial and says I shouldn't be "so precisely obsessed" with all this scientific IVF because there shouldn't be "anything wrong with me" since so and so are older than me and had endo and other stuff and still got pregnant naturally!
Acquaintances who know we got married 8 months ago are always bugging me "so, no baby yet? any good news yet? " Ughhhh...ok, if you know I want babies and I'm not pregnant yet, why would you be so insensitive as to ask this kind of questions...
"So and so stopped trying and went on vacation and came back KU!" "just don't think about it!" "OMG, it took us forever! We tried for almost 6 months before getting KU!" "Oh I totally get it, my fourth child took almost 4 months to concieve!" "Where's my baby!" (That's usually from my childless aunts...) "Are you sure you're doing it right?" "So, which one of you is the issue?"
Those are just the first ones that come to mind...
Me: 30 DH: 31
2 Dogs / 2 Cats
IUI #1 07/2016 BFN
IUI #2 10/2016 BFN
IUI #3 11/2016 BFN IVF #1 03/2017 - 23 Retrieved / 22 Fertilized / 11 at Day 3 / 1 Beautiful Embryo tf on Day 5 / 7 Frozen on Day 6 - Beta #1 4/5/17: 104 Beta #2 4/7/17 224
my hairdresser/friend recently said to me "all you need to do is go on vacation and have some drunk sex!" it's what happened to her and hers was not planned at all!! UGH!!
July - September 2016 - 3 negative IUIs
December 2016 IVF cycle - 12 retrieved, 5 fertilized, 2 frozen, 1 transferred August 2017 - baby boy September 2019 - FET cancelled due to thin lining (tried pills) November 2019 - FET cancelled due to thin lining (tried patches) February 2020 - FET February 6, EDD 10/25/2020
@Winnie81 my mouth dropped open at the comment to your husband. I would die if someone said that in my presence! Ugh...ew.
We've been trying since getting married but we're together for 5 years, so of course people want us to have kids like yesterday. But an aunt told me to "Talk to this cousin....you know she couldn't get pregnant either " about my much older cousin who had a son successfully with IVF. I never told this aunt I was even trying let alone infertile.
At my grandma's funeral an uncle who lives far away was holding his 6 month old great nephew and told me" I needed to get one of those". I should have asked if he knew where they were selling them.
Married: October 2014
Me: 35 DH: 39
TTC since November 2014
Diagnosis: Anovulation from PCOSish without syndrome, Male factors - low motility and morphology issues
April-Sept. 2015 - Clomid and TI - BFN
Dec. 2015- HSG - Clear tubes
Jan., Feb., March 2016 - Letrozole 7.5mg and TI with HCG trigger= BFN
April, May, June 2016 - Letrozole 7.5mg and IUI with HCG trigger= BFN
September 2016 - IVF round #1;ER 9/26 with ICSI on 14 eggs - developed mild OHSS.
"Have you tried (x)?" One, I'm under the care of a doctor and I will work with her to decide what to try and two, I have most likely thought about and researched this more than you ever have or will do I'm in no need of suggestions.
Best thing to say: "I'm so sorry you are going through this. Would you like to talk about it?"
Me: 33, PCOS with anovulation DH: 36, No known issues TTC since 11/2014 1000mg Metformin daily
Oct-Dec 2015: Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI = BFN x 2 Feb-May 2016: Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI, Prometrium = BFN x 3 August 2016: Clomid 100mg no response, Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI, Prometrium = BFN
@lilmissslp today I got "you're not that old yet", similar to your comment but I couldn't help but say, "Gee thanks"
I've heard almost all of these but @Winnie81 that comment is the worst! Some people just have no clue.
TTC #1 since Aug 2015 (unexplained infertility) 10/16-12/16 -3 IUI, all BFN 2/17 IVF #1 froze 5 five day blasts 5/17 FET#1 BFN 6/17 FET #2 BFP EDD 2/27/18
I get "at your age, you're brave" ugh. Having recently been told I won't have a biological child of my own, the phrase "the best day of my life" in reference to a child born is making me really sad (even though I know its probably true.)
Me & DH - 41, DH has a cyst blocking his tubes, I'm just old. IVF #1 scheduled May 2016 - 375/525 follistim, 75 menopur - cancelled cycle Day 6 IVF #2 scheduled July 2016 - new protocol, switcharoo...IUI June 2016 - BFN IVF#3 scheduled August 2016 - estrogen & testosterone primed for 3 wks - ganirelix 7 days leading up to stim - 500 follistim, 75 menopur, 150 clomid , no follicle growth on day 6, stopped injectibles. Scanned day 9 just to check, some growth, 3 days 200 mg clomid, day 12 more growth, 100 follistim, 75 menopur, start ganirelix on day 13, ER = 0 eggs, ovulated to soon ( ) IVF#4 scheduled Sept 2016 - Microdose Flare protocol, cancelled stim day 6 converted to IUI (one dominant follicle) IUI cancelled ovulated too soon again. Taking a mental health break. IVF#5 December 2016 - New protocol, same results. My adventure is over.
@kaseycoco, it's so annoying and I want to say clearly being "young" hasn't worked in my favor and Ive been going through this for over three years and I'm not getting any younger!
TTC #1 since August 2013 Unexplained/ Endo Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN IVF #1- BFN FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks FET #2- February 2017 BFP Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
Ugh. My best friend, decided to smoke weed (ahem, someplace it's legal I'm sure) with her husband, and they got too stoned to use birth control, just ONE TIME, and bang, she's knocked up.
She tells this story regularly, when we talk about my infertility.
But some of the best things I've heard-- "I don't usually share this with people, but let me tell you about my infertility experience, I understand what you're going through..."
Me- 39 (turning 40 in April), TTC for the first time ever (since Jan 2015), low ovarian reserve
Married 3/14/14 to my wonderful wife, but her sperm count is rather low
TTC with frozen donor sperm and science
7 IUIs, 7 BFNs. 2 IVF attempts, both cancelled and converted to IUI, both BFNs. Decided that my tired old ovaries are ready to retire. Next step- reciprocal IVF, using my wife's eggs, my uterus! fresh 5 day transfer (2 embryos) 4/17/17- BFP! Identical twins "due" 1/2/17 (but anticipated arrival sometime December)
Last Christmas on of my DH's cousins announced that she was pregnant. The ladies of the family then all decided to share how long it took each one to get pregnant with their children. 1 month, 3 months. The best was his aunt saying, "oh it took us forever! 9 months!" I thought for sure I was having a nightmare.
All from in laws: "This is God's plan for you" "Just stop trying so hard" "Think positive and it will happen" "Just relax" "Have you thought of adoption?" "Have you thought of going to church?" "Maybe you're not meant to have children" "It will happen when the times right"
My husband gets the question at work from time to time: "Do you need me to do the job for you?"...blehh...makes me barf thinking about someone saying that to him. He gets so mad when someone says that.
That last one is awful. Your DH has incredible restraint if he hasn't punched the guy's face in yet.
The usual "just relax" just pisses me off to no end.
My mother has suggested that I pray more.....
Together 2007 | Married 2011 | Me: 36 | DH: 38 Adopted Furbaby: 2014 TTC#1 : 1/2016 | IUI #2 - BFP 12/24/16 -- born 9/8/17 TTC#2: 11/2019 | Dx DOR (AMH 0.3), AMA IUI #2 - BFP 7/1/20 -- EDD 3/14/21
Some of these are truly awful, I'm sorry you guys have to endure this. I know that most people don't realize how insensitive they are being (I say most, because there are unfortunately people in my life that are very passive-aggressivley intentional in their comments). This past year, I have tried a different route, and decided to educate people when they make these comments, and I honestly feel much better afterwards. For example, my husbands dad has a big bbq twice a year. Every time we go, his stepmom will either yell across the room, or ask me when she is with a group of strangers, "We are waiting for you guys to give us a grand baby!" or "Time is running out, how much longer are you going to wait?". I have spoken to her in private several times about our struggles, but she always says she doesn't remember, or was drunk and forgot. This last time, I told her in front of the group of people she was with, "you may have forgotten our last few conversations about this, but we are going through infertility issues, and have been for several years, so every time you ask me in front of a group of people what is taking so long, it is both hurtful and insensitive." She was speechless, and hopefully will not confront me again. Either way it felt good to say something in front of other people, because she will look like an asshat if she does that again, and I'm tired of being uncomfortable. I
Also, I am glad you guys are as grossed out as I am at the comments DH gets.
2 Laps and 1 Abdominal Myomectomy 6 rounds of clomid 5 rounds of iui Several HSG's sprinkled throughout the years to up my chances of a BFP Several dilation of cervix because they suspect the scar tissue is hindering it from fully opening (partially adds to the severe cramps all month) IVF #1 Gonal F, Menopur and Cetrotide ER 12/1/2016
ER-Retrieved 22 eggs 10 fertilized 4/4 day 5 embryos were normal for PGS!!! 2 boys/2 girls FET 1/10/2017 Gallbladder surgery 1/10/2017 FET estimated end of Feb, beginning of March
Yes agree on the best things- I opened up to a friend and she got quiet, then said she's never told anyone outside her family but both her girls were a result of IVF and she even used the same doctor we're using. I gave her the biggest hug. She still hasn't opened up much (don't know why etc) but to hear you aren't alone, best thing a person can say.
@Winnie81 I love you called out your stepmom-in-law in front everyone. Sad that it had to get to that point but hopefully it makes her think twice before she opens her mouth next time. Also, re: your DH's coworker. I just can't get over this. I would actually make an anonymous call into HR saying that you overheard a conversation that made you uncomfortable. A convo like that is considered sexual harassment. The jerk would get a ding on his record for saying something like that and it'll keep him from doing it again.
Together 2007 | Married 2011 | Me: 36 | DH: 38 Adopted Furbaby: 2014 TTC#1 : 1/2016 | IUI #2 - BFP 12/24/16 -- born 9/8/17 TTC#2: 11/2019 | Dx DOR (AMH 0.3), AMA IUI #2 - BFP 7/1/20 -- EDD 3/14/21
@Winnie81--you definitely earned a gold star for that one! Also, an extra gold star for effective use of the word "asshat"
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
@alohakumu and @juliebeannn haha thanks guys My husband has texted him about not saying that anymore, but I haven't followed up since then. I think the coworker was trying to be a smart-ass/bust-chops type of guy, and it was/is in poor taste. His field that he works in is all male. Not justifying any of it because its disgusting, but its not something I have the energy to drag out and make an issue.
2 Laps and 1 Abdominal Myomectomy 6 rounds of clomid 5 rounds of iui Several HSG's sprinkled throughout the years to up my chances of a BFP Several dilation of cervix because they suspect the scar tissue is hindering it from fully opening (partially adds to the severe cramps all month) IVF #1 Gonal F, Menopur and Cetrotide ER 12/1/2016
ER-Retrieved 22 eggs 10 fertilized 4/4 day 5 embryos were normal for PGS!!! 2 boys/2 girls FET 1/10/2017 Gallbladder surgery 1/10/2017 FET estimated end of Feb, beginning of March
Sometimes I think the all/mostly-male fields are worse. No one at my work has ever, ever said anything to me - like no one ever asks me if I'm going to start trying soon or anything - but my DH used to get it more, at his work, which is way more men than women.
He had this one older coworker (maybe about 60) who thought it was so funny to ask my DH if he was going to start a family soon, and it made DH crazy - he'd ask him just about every day. The coworker has known DH since he was fresh out of college, so to him, it's probably funny to see DH grow up- he thought it was hilarious when DH got married. So teasing him about starting a family maybe seemed to follow? Obviously, he had no idea that on the home front, DH's wife (me), was losing it about the inability to conceive almost every day.
Anyway, so one day, the coworker gave DH a hard time again, in a big group setting - like: "when are you going to start having kids?" And DH just said: "You ask me that every day. How do you know we haven't lost three already?" Apparently there was total silence, and then the guy apologized profusely. Hasn't mentioned it since.
OK ladies, please give me strength. I'm literally sitting at my REs office right now, waiting. Woman next to me is talking LOUDLY to her mother/friend about wow how many women are here and that people just have too many options and that if it's the right time then it's God's plan and will just happen. No idea why she is her and I'm not trying to be insensitive but really?? Here of all places, right now? Please...Grrr sorry just venting
@GG620 that woman is an idiot. People have different religious beliefs. I read years ago that in Isreal, the state pays/sponsors IVF. Perhaps because they take "go forth and multiply" very seriously?
Like, it's okay to have your own beliefs, but be respectful and curious, not judgmental in the clinic waiting room. I'd be so mad if that happened to me! It'd be really hard to say something without snapping.
@funkykey yess!! I agree that everyone is definitely entitled to their own beliefs, but to say such things in such an environment and so loudly is just disrespectful imo. Also, that is a super interesting article, thanks for the read!
@GG620 How incredibly insensitive of her. Seriously, some people...
I've always liked the quote that goes something like, "Religion is like a dick. It's okay to have, but don't shove it down my throat."
It reminds me of when my friend's teen daughter had cancer and was given a pamphlet saying that she could call if she had questions about her condition. When she called, it was a "counselor" who told her that she must have made God mad and done something horribly wrong to get cancer. She didn't tell her mom for months until she broke down, feeling like she did something to cause her illness.
No one has the right to judge what is best for you and your family, except the advice of a medical professional who is there to keep us safe.
Me: 35 DH: 28 TTC since June 2016 Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016 AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017 Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017 October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total) Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen 12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP 2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone Abnormal SIS Oct 2018 Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis. 12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN Our journey has come to an end.
Re: That one phrase that pisses you off!!!!!
Me: 1, possibly 2, blocked tubes
DH: severe MFI
Married and TTC since 2/15
Started stims 7/21/16, ER 8/2 --> 17 eggs, 5 blasts after PGS testing.
Fresh transfer 8/8/16: Chemical Pregnancy
FET #1 9/13: PGS tested 5AA, BFN
Endometrial biopsy 10/18/16: normal result
ERA test 10/18/16: "receptive" result
FET #2 1/3/17: natural cycle, BFP!!! TWINS!! EDD: 9/21 (8/31 with twin adjustment)
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
I have said some very ugly things in response to this....
Married May 2014
TTC # 2 Since December 2021
Baby girl W born 2/2021
Our journey so far...
(tw loss & infertility)
Working with an RE since March 2016
2 failed TI cycles
3 failed IUI cycles
IVF Feb - April 2017
23 eggs collected, 20 mature, 14 fertilized with ICSI, 4 day 3 blasts, 3 day 5 blasts, 1 PGS normal
Transferred 1 PGS normal embryo 4.12.17
BFP 4.21.17
MMC due to small gestational sac 6.8.17
Our adoption journey:
12.25.18 Agency picked and apps submitted!
5.1.19 Adoption on hold so we can buy a house!
1.1.20 Homestudy process started
3.14.20 First social worker visit
5.25.20 Homestudy Approved & Submitted to Agency
6.1.20 Surprise! Positive pregnancy test!
Healthy baby girl born 2/10/2021
Regarding IF, I hate when ppl tell me "everything happens for a reason"
Unexplained/ Endo
Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
IVF #1- BFN
FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
FET #2- February 2017 BFP Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
"This is God's plan for you"
"Just stop trying so hard"
"Think positive and it will happen"
"Just relax"
"Have you thought of adoption?"
"Have you thought of going to church?"
"Maybe you're not meant to have children"
"It will happen when the times right"
My husband gets the question at work from time to time: "Do you need me to do the job for you?"...blehh...makes me barf thinking about someone saying that to him. He gets so mad when someone says that.
Fur-children: 3 dogs + 2 cats (all rescued)
6 rounds of clomid
5 rounds of iui
Several HSG's sprinkled throughout the years to up my chances of a BFP
Several dilation of cervix because they suspect the scar tissue is hindering it from fully opening (partially adds to the severe cramps all month)
IVF #1 Gonal F, Menopur and Cetrotide
ER 12/1/2016
4/4 day 5 embryos were normal for PGS!!! 2 boys/2 girls
FET 1/10/2017
Gallbladder surgery 1/10/2017
FET estimated end of Feb, beginning of March
I actually had one blood tech ask if I was there "to see if my husband did his job."
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
The comments that get to me the most are always about semen. Like when a guy is bragging about knocking his wife up on the first try, and makes some comment about how strong his swimmers are. For some reason, those kind of comments are the most obnoxious to me.
The other ones, like: "happened so fast for us!" or "just relax" bug me, but I'm happy to refute them with a quick one liner, like: "Sounds like you're bragging." Or "There's no evidence that stress impacts infertility - actually the correlation is that infertility causes stress."
But something like: "My swimmers are so strong" makes me want to say: "Too bad your brain cells aren't." which is too much - just a little too far.
of our money on fertility treatments!!!!! Or people that say "I know what you're going through, it took us a while" and in reality they got pregnant in like 5-6 months without any outside help- umm no you have no clue what 9 years worth of fertility treatments is like!!!!
TTC for 8 years.
Started in 2008 with timed intercourse, ovulation testing, no official monitoring.
OB-GYN recommended Clomid and timed intercourse, attempted for 6 straight months.
First surgery June 2009 (OB-GYN): diagnosed with stage 4 endometriosis and large hydrosalpinx on right tube.
Second surgery (July 2009, RE performed this): Right tube had to be removed, lots of adhesions removed.
Attempted "trying on our own" as per RE recommendations, unsuccessful 5-6 months.
HSG performed December 2009: left tube open.
February 2010: started Femara and timed intercourse, attempted 6 months, no BFPs.
Took a break for a while.
January 2011: started IUI process, ovaries never properly responded to medications, 6 failed attempts, never actually completed an IUI.
Took 2012-2014 off due to depression and frustration (side note: did complete grad school to become a nurse practitioner- great distraction).
2015: started seeing RE again, went through tons of testing and HSG, left tube now blocked, only option is IVF.
September 2015: Started first official IVF cycle, cancelled in October due to large cyst on left ovary.
October 2015: started on birth control for 2 months.
December 2015: attempted to start another IVF cycle, cysts on both ovaries on initial ultrasound, left was huge, cancelled to aspirated cyst.
January 2016: Cyst back, surgery for ex-lap, cyst and adhesions removed.
March 2016: Attempted second IVF cycle, estrogen way too high, cyst back, cancelled again.
April 2016: Third attempted IVF cycle, 7 eggs retrieved, 2 mature (but not great) embryos made to fresh transfer, neither implanted.
May-Sept 2016: Break to regain sanity.
Sept-Oct 2016: Attempted fourth IVF cycle, very successful, cyst still on left but we ignored. 7 mature "great looking" eggs retrieved, 4 mature embryos made it to day 5 transfer. Transfer aborted due to large amount of endometriosis fluid in uterus.
FET of 2 embryos completed on 12/12/16.
12/22/16 1st Beta 179 BFP!!!
12/24/16 2nd Beta 449!!
EDD 8/30/17 with two girls!!!!!
Audrey (4lb 8oz) and Olivia (6lb 6oz) born 8/10/17!!
"I'm sure it will happen when you stop thinking about it"
well I'm sure I can hit you in the head with this sharp object too....lets see which one of us is right, shall we?
Together Let Us Seek the Heights
CP #1- due April 2017 lost 5.5 weeks
cp #2- due May 2017 lost at 4.5 weeks
iUI #1- BFN
IUI #2-BFN
IVF#1- transfer 2- BFP! Due October 2017 c/p#3 lost at 3.5 weeks
Unexplained/ Endo
Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
IVF #1- BFN
FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
FET #2- February 2017 BFP Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
To which I say, that won't work because I'd drink a bucket of coffee every day and a bottle of wine every night
Acquaintances who know we got married 8 months ago are always bugging me "so, no baby yet? any good news yet? " Ughhhh...ok, if you know I want babies and I'm not pregnant yet, why would you be so insensitive as to ask this kind of questions...
"just don't think about it!"
"OMG, it took us forever! We tried for almost 6 months before getting KU!"
"Oh I totally get it, my fourth child took almost 4 months to concieve!"
"Where's my baby!" (That's usually from my childless aunts...)
"Are you sure you're doing it right?"
"So, which one of you is the issue?"
Those are just the first ones that come to mind...
2 Dogs / 2 Cats
IUI #2 10/2016 BFN
IUI #3 11/2016 BFN
IVF #1 03/2017 - 23 Retrieved / 22 Fertilized / 11 at Day 3 / 1 Beautiful Embryo tf on Day 5 / 7 Frozen on Day 6 - Beta #1 4/5/17: 104 Beta #2 4/7/17 224
August 2017 - baby boy
September 2019 - FET cancelled due to thin lining (tried pills)
November 2019 - FET cancelled due to thin lining (tried patches)
February 2020 - FET February 6, EDD 10/25/2020
Unexplained/ Endo
Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
IVF #1- BFN
FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
FET #2- February 2017 BFP Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
"[to DH] why are you shooting blanks?!"
"you don't want to be old when you have kids! you should have them now!"
thanks auntie, thanks.
started ttc dec 2015. started working with RE in jan 2017.
cycle 14: femara (3 follicles), ti.
We've been trying since getting married but we're together for 5 years, so of course people want us to have kids like yesterday. But an aunt told me to "Talk to this cousin....you know she couldn't get pregnant either " about my much older cousin who had a son successfully with IVF. I never told this aunt I was even trying let alone infertile.
At my grandma's funeral an uncle who lives far away was holding his 6 month old great nephew and told me" I needed to get one of those". I should have asked if he knew where they were selling them.
Married: October 2014
Me: 35 DH: 39
TTC since November 2014
Diagnosis: Anovulation from PCOSish without syndrome, Male factors - low motility and morphology issues
April-Sept. 2015 - Clomid and TI - BFN
Dec. 2015- HSG - Clear tubes
Jan., Feb., March 2016 - Letrozole 7.5mg and TI with HCG trigger= BFN
April, May, June 2016 - Letrozole 7.5mg and IUI with HCG trigger= BFN
September 2016 - IVF round #1;ER 9/26 with ICSI on 14 eggs - developed mild OHSS.
Sept 2016 - 12 non-PGS embryos frozen (5 5AAs)
FET #1 Jan 16, 2017 - BFP!- MC at 6W5d
FET #2 May 8, 2017 - BFP! EDD 1-24-2018
Best thing to say: "I'm so sorry you are going through this. Would you like to talk about it?"
DH: 36, No known issues
TTC since 11/2014
1000mg Metformin daily
Oct-Dec 2015: Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI = BFN x 2
Feb-May 2016: Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI, Prometrium = BFN x 3
August 2016: Clomid 100mg no response, Letrozole 5mg, Ovidrel, TI, Prometrium = BFN
I've heard almost all of these but @Winnie81 that comment is the worst! Some people just have no clue.
10/16-12/16 -3 IUI, all BFN
2/17 IVF #1 froze 5 five day blasts
5/17 FET#1 BFN
6/17 FET #2 BFP
Having recently been told I won't have a biological child of my own, the phrase "the best day of my life" in reference to a child born is making me really sad (even though I know its probably true.)
IVF #1 scheduled May 2016 - 375/525 follistim, 75 menopur - cancelled cycle Day 6
IVF #2 scheduled July 2016 - new protocol, switcharoo...IUI June 2016 - BFN
IVF#3 scheduled August 2016 - estrogen & testosterone primed for 3 wks - ganirelix 7 days leading up to stim - 500 follistim, 75 menopur, 150 clomid , no follicle growth on day 6, stopped injectibles. Scanned day 9 just to check, some growth, 3 days 200 mg clomid, day 12 more growth, 100 follistim, 75 menopur, start ganirelix on day 13, ER = 0 eggs, ovulated to soon (
IVF#4 scheduled Sept 2016 - Microdose Flare protocol, cancelled stim day 6 converted to IUI (one dominant follicle)
IVF#5 December 2016 - New protocol, same results. My adventure is over.
Unexplained/ Endo
Medicated IUIs # 1-3 BFN
IVF #1- BFN
FET #1- BFP; Ectopic pregnancy found at 7wks
FET #2- February 2017 BFP Beta #1- 119 (8dp5dt) Beta #2- 475 (12dp5dt)
She tells this story regularly, when we talk about my infertility.
But some of the best things I've heard-- "I don't usually share this with people, but let me tell you about my infertility experience, I understand what you're going through..."
7 IUIs, 7 BFNs.
2 IVF attempts, both cancelled and converted to IUI, both BFNs.
Decided that my tired old ovaries are ready to retire.
Next step- reciprocal IVF, using my wife's eggs, my uterus!
fresh 5 day transfer (2 embryos) 4/17/17- BFP!
Identical twins "due" 1/2/17 (but anticipated arrival sometime December)
The usual "just relax" just pisses me off to no end.
My mother has suggested that I pray more.....
Adopted Furbaby: 2014
TTC#1 : 1/2016 | IUI #2 - BFP 12/24/16 -- born 9/8/17
TTC#2: 11/2019 | Dx DOR (AMH 0.3), AMA
IUI #2 - BFP 7/1/20 -- EDD 3/14/21
Also, I am glad you guys are as grossed out as I am at the comments DH gets.
Fur-children: 3 dogs + 2 cats (all rescued)
6 rounds of clomid
5 rounds of iui
Several HSG's sprinkled throughout the years to up my chances of a BFP
Several dilation of cervix because they suspect the scar tissue is hindering it from fully opening (partially adds to the severe cramps all month)
IVF #1 Gonal F, Menopur and Cetrotide
ER 12/1/2016
4/4 day 5 embryos were normal for PGS!!! 2 boys/2 girls
FET 1/10/2017
Gallbladder surgery 1/10/2017
FET estimated end of Feb, beginning of March
Adopted Furbaby: 2014
TTC#1 : 1/2016 | IUI #2 - BFP 12/24/16 -- born 9/8/17
TTC#2: 11/2019 | Dx DOR (AMH 0.3), AMA
IUI #2 - BFP 7/1/20 -- EDD 3/14/21
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.
Fur-children: 3 dogs + 2 cats (all rescued)
6 rounds of clomid
5 rounds of iui
Several HSG's sprinkled throughout the years to up my chances of a BFP
Several dilation of cervix because they suspect the scar tissue is hindering it from fully opening (partially adds to the severe cramps all month)
IVF #1 Gonal F, Menopur and Cetrotide
ER 12/1/2016
4/4 day 5 embryos were normal for PGS!!! 2 boys/2 girls
FET 1/10/2017
Gallbladder surgery 1/10/2017
FET estimated end of Feb, beginning of March
He had this one older coworker (maybe about 60) who thought it was so funny to ask my DH if he was going to start a family soon, and it made DH crazy - he'd ask him just about every day. The coworker has known DH since he was fresh out of college, so to him, it's probably funny to see DH grow up- he thought it was hilarious when DH got married. So teasing him about starting a family maybe seemed to follow? Obviously, he had no idea that on the home front, DH's wife (me), was losing it about the inability to conceive almost every day.
Anyway, so one day, the coworker gave DH a hard time again, in a big group setting - like: "when are you going to start having kids?" And DH just said: "You ask me that every day. How do you know we haven't lost three already?" Apparently there was total silence, and then the guy apologized profusely. Hasn't mentioned it since.
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Me: 28 Him: 30
Married: 11/15/14
TTC: 02/2016
IF DX: MFI (low count & morphology) & mild PCOS
June 2016 BFP - MC @8w2d
August 2016 BFP - MC @6w1d
June 2017 - 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP 7/6/17!!
Beta #1 = 422 (14dpo), Beta #2 = 810, prog - 12.3 (16dpo), Beta #3 = 5023, prog - 18.9 (20dpo)
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/parenting/2014/03/11/no-questions-about-i-v-f-in-israel/?referer=
Like, it's okay to have your own beliefs, but be respectful and curious, not judgmental in the clinic waiting room. I'd be so mad if that happened to me! It'd be really hard to say something without snapping.
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Me: 28 Him: 30
Married: 11/15/14
TTC: 02/2016
IF DX: MFI (low count & morphology) & mild PCOS
June 2016 BFP - MC @8w2d
August 2016 BFP - MC @6w1d
June 2017 - 50 mg Clomid + Ovidrel + IUI = BFP 7/6/17!!
Beta #1 = 422 (14dpo), Beta #2 = 810, prog - 12.3 (16dpo), Beta #3 = 5023, prog - 18.9 (20dpo)
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I've always liked the quote that goes something like, "Religion is like a dick. It's okay to have, but don't shove it down my throat."
It reminds me of when my friend's teen daughter had cancer and was given a pamphlet saying that she could call if she had questions about her condition. When she called, it was a "counselor" who told her that she must have made God mad and done something horribly wrong to get cancer. She didn't tell her mom for months until she broke down, feeling like she did something to cause her illness.
No one has the right to judge what is best for you and your family, except the advice of a medical professional who is there to keep us safe.
TTC since June 2016
Azoospermia diagnosis (zero count) Dec 2016
AZFc chromosome microdeletion discovery March 2017
Unsuccessful TESE for DH in August 2017
October 2017 IVF with donor sperm
29R, 24M, 16F, 2d5, 4d6 (6 embryos total)
Only 3 could have PGS. 2/3 normal. 5 embies frozen
12/15/17 FET #1 (1 embryo)--CP
2/7/17 FET #2 (2 embryos)--BFN
Chronic endometritis diagnosis May 2018
ERA Sept 2018--borderline receptive--12 more hours of progesterone
Abnormal SIS Oct 2018
Repeat hysteroscopy Nov 1. Treated recurring endometritis.
12/4/18 FET #3 (2 embryos)--BFN
Our journey has come to an end.