**General TW that this thread can and will mention MC and loss.***
This is a place for those of us who have already started TTC, but have started infertility testing and/or treatments. You can express your thoughts, feelings, and frustrations on infertility. TTC can be a long journey naturally, then add in the difficulties associated with infertility and it becomes a whole new ball game. The road to infertility can be lonely, frustrating, and complicated, so let's make this a place where we can vent, ask questions, and support one another. Feel free to resurrect this thread at any point in the week if you have something to say, and treat this like an ongoing conversation.
Diagnosis (If you've been):
Cycle/CD:
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA):
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?)
How are things going?
Any questions?
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town?
*TW*
TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Gonal-f Menopur Lupron LDN and Prednisone
How are things going? I had a follicle scan this morning that showed three mature follicles. Very happy with that. IUI #6 scheduled for tomorrow morning. Praying the extra medications this mixed with the most follicles I've had in one cycle equals a recipe for success
Any questions?
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? I live in the heart of the Catskills. It's absolutely gorgeous here, especially in the fall. I love just driving around and taking in my surroundings!
@mrsdaddario Good luck tomorrow! I hope your IUI is as uneventful as mine!
Diagnosis (If you've been): AMA, LOR
Cycle/CD: 7/ 13
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) clomid + trigger + IUI
How are things going? I triggered for the first time this cycle and had IUI #1 this afternoon. It's our most exciting cycle so far.
Any questions?
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Boston has the best restaurants. Most of my favorites are in the North End which is super close to us.
History and blog link in spoiler
2016 - dx with super low ovarian reserve; failed cycle with clomid, failed IUI, 2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks May 2020 FET; BFN July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate Oct 2020 BFP!
@mrsdaddario so excited for you and this cycle with how many follicles you have! I know we've all said this before, but thanks to that nurse for taking a longer look at your chart. The response this month has me crossing my fingers so hard for you!!
@mrsdaddario I'm so happy to hear about several mature follicles! Good luck with the IUI!
@laurad75 I hope that your IUI and exciting cycle keeps going well!
AFM I still have some spotting going on but I figured since I can't go to the doctor before Saturday and we aren't doing an IUI, I might as well just deal with it and keep HIO! My follicle scan is on Saturday. If things are progressing at all, then we'll plan for when I trigger!
I am so glad to see this thread every week. I can't bear the regular TWW/WTO threads anymore.
Diagnosis (If you've been): RPL x 4, Severe MFI
Cycle/CD: Cycle 27, CD7
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Temp, OPK, I'm on PNV and FertilAid, DH is on Clomid and FertilAid, HSG tomorrow, Possible non-medicated IUI.
How are things going?: I guess okay? I am nervous/excited about the HSG tomorrow. I don't expect to have any blockages, but I am hoping that it'll help clear out the dust. We aren't sure about the IUI, but it might happen. Even if it doesn't I already have far too much hope for this cycle since we are doing all the "extras," paired with the HSG.
Any questions? I don't think so.
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? We have the Bass Pro Headquarters here, so that's sometimes fun. I always take out of town friends there. We also have several caves to explore, lots of lakes, and beautiful parks.
@mrsdaddario - All my fingers and toes crossed for you. I look forward to the day we get to celebrate with you.
@laurad75 - FX for your IUI! I hope the first one works for you!!!
TTC #1 since September 2014 Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI
(count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low
progesterone Check out my Infertility blog Check out my Infertility Instagram
Loss History (TW):
BFP: 3 May 2015, loss confirmed 4 June 2015 BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015 BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015 BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018 BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
TTC History (TW):
3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt
#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@KristoB I'm with you on not being able to handle the WTO/TWW threads anymore. I've been lurking them, but it's gotten too much. When do you have to decide on the IUI? Do you get a couple of days to think it over?
Diagnosis (If you've been): unexplained
Cycle/CD: 11/1
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Baseline ultrasound is Thursday, so we'll see what the plan is for IUI #2 then.
How are things going? Not doing so well right now. Really had my hopes up for last cycle with the IUI. Feeling angry and bitter... Really did not need yesterday's TWW thread. I'm likely going to just jump over to the infertility board and lurk this thread going forward.
Any questions?
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? I love going to the art museum! We have summer films outside in an amphitheater and a bunch of other really fun things to do as part of it. Also love the free concerts that happen weekly all around the city in summer and fall.
@persnickity - Well it's sorta weird. My RE is four hours (one way) away. We have been doing all the testing she recommends here in town and just sending the results to her in preparation for IVF. So we have the HSG tomorrow with my OBGYN, but my DH wants to ask the OB to do the IUI, since we aren't doing much with the RE anyway right now, and why not do the IUI? It's super cheap (only $300+$200/USx2) without the meds, and my OB could do it easily. So really, we just have to ask him and see if he's willing. We are pretty confident he will say yes, since he recommended it to us previously but we said no. Honestly, It probably won't work, given the MFI, but at that cheap, why not? The IVF won't be till 2018, since we are completely OOP (thanks, Missouri), so why not go for it now, just in case?
Sorry things are down for you at the moment. Keep your chin up.
TTC #1 since September 2014 Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI
(count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low
progesterone Check out my Infertility blog Check out my Infertility Instagram
Loss History (TW):
BFP: 3 May 2015, loss confirmed 4 June 2015 BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015 BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015 BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018 BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
TTC History (TW):
3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt
#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@KristoB I'm sorry you need to wait until 2018 for the IVF. How's your DH doing with the Clomid and how long has he been on it? Mine might start it, so I'm curious if men have any of the same side effects as women. Did your doc give you an idea of probability for success with IUI when using those drugs to improve MFI?
@mrsdaddario I'm so excited for you! How did your IUI go today? Really hoping this is your cycle!
@persnickity I understand your feelings after the first IUI. My reaction was similar. You get a lot of hope up because you finally feel like something is in your control and you're going to science your way to pregnancy, and then it's a huge let down. Or at least that was my reaction. Good luck with your next IUI! I don't do the TWW/WTO threads, but I went back and looked at yesterday's. Wow.
Diagnosis (If you've been): MFI (low motility)
Cycle/CD: 17?/CD 10
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Trying on our own (temping, OPKs, etc.) for the next three months or so
How are things going? Frustrated. We saw a urologist about DH's low motility about three weeks ago. He did some more blood tests, which are supposed to help him determine which drug he wants to prescribe DH (either Clomid or another I can't remember at the moment). He was pretty certain the issue is hormonal, as we expected. Per instructions, DH followed up with two emails requesting the test results last week and....crickets. We've heard nothing. I'm getting annoyed because we purposely stopped doing the IUIs for the next three months to give time for the medication to work. Now I feel like we're just wasting time. Anyway, DH is going to call today.
Any questions? Nope
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? I live in NYC so probably my favorite is seeing all the Broadway shows we want whenever we want.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?). Did our first IUI with trigger shot.
How are things going? Depressed. I have to agree I'm very happy that this is a thing in TTC now and we don't HAVE to go over to the Infertility board. It felt like being kicked out or something if I had to leave TTGP. I'm part of a infertility group on another page too and both of these have helped so much.
Any questions? How do you respond to the well meaning "everything will work out ok" individuals you just want to slap in the face?
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Toasted Ravs. MMMMM.... The most amazing thing ever. Completely beats regular Ravioli.
Rant: I just had a "friend" tell me "yeah but you're not infertile so why are you so upset".....Fucker, this is a couples thing. If he is the issue it has just as much of an impact on me and my psychology. My partner is not the one having to go through taking Clomid, or having a shot to trigger ovulation or the damn catheter being shoved in his cervix. I AM. So don't freaking talk down to me on the fact that since I'm not the one with the "issue" that I should emotionally be FINE. I'm emotionally effed up from the medication, bloating and pains of fertility medication because my partner has an issue. Shut your damn face.
@Bababatty - DH has been on the Clomid since.. July? Maybe early August. He's totaly fine. he is only taking 1/4 of a pill-I think it's 12.5 mg. At first he said he was super horny and really energetic... but I sorta think it was placebo. Either way, it's tapered off. He has gained like, 30 pounds since then, but I'm not sure if we can totally blame the pills for that or not, he's doing so many things. We weren't given any real stats. Just pretty much "here, try this, it might help." We were told an IUI for us with his previous counts, would only give us a bout a 5% chance, TOPS, each cycle. That was after about 1 month on the meds, when his count did increase slightly. They say 3-6 months on Clomid is when it reaches max efficiency. Be aware, the Clomid can help increase count, but doesn't do anything for quality. This is why we are supplementing with the FertilAid.
Was the other med a gonadotropin? That was the other mentioned to us... Hmm. I hope you hear back soon! Keep me update, I also am interested in other people's MFI stories.
TTC #1 since September 2014 Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI
(count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low
progesterone Check out my Infertility blog Check out my Infertility Instagram
Loss History (TW):
BFP: 3 May 2015, loss confirmed 4 June 2015 BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015 BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015 BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018 BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
TTC History (TW):
3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt
#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@KristoB We weren't given any real stats either, so I'm always interested in what others say. It's really helpful to hear other MFI stories, so please keep me updated, too!
I'm glad to hear the Clomid did increase his counts slightly at the beginning. Does it look like they've still gone up in the ensuing months? Thank you for the tip on the FertilAid. Ive seen that come up with others on the board, so I've just asked DH to inquire about it when he reaches out to the doc again today.
I believe the other drug was Arimidex, which is an aromatase inhibitor usually used to treat breast cancer. I think it's used if too much testosterone is being converted to estrogen? I know the doctor talked about the circumstances under which he would prescribe each drug but of course I didn't write it down.
@KristoB In that case, I'd totally go for the IUI as well. With the cost of IVF and not being able to start until 2018, it makes a lot of sense to give the IUI a shot. Not like it's going to hurt anything.
@Bababatty That's exactly it. This is why I love you ladies. You've all either been in the same situation or will be soon and understand exactly what I'm thinking/feeling.
Good luck to both of you with MFI. We thought we might be dealing with it, but his subsequent SAs have all been fine.
Diagnosis (If you've been): Starting testing next cycle.
Cycle/CD: 18/13
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Testing. Doing preliminary health blood work through my primary for both of us while waiting for my next cycle. Next cycle I am doing - day 3 blood work, a transvaginal ultrasound, HSG, and a SA for DH.
How are things going? I had my first fertility specialist appointment this morning, after choosing not to do treatment through my GYN thanks to information received on here. The (two hour) appointment was packed full of information and I am still processing, but thankful to be in the hands of an expert.
Any questions? The doctor is concerned because I had a ruptured appendix a few years ago (that I was in the hospital for several days for), so wants to see if it had any effect on my fallopian tubes. Has anyone heard of this being a factor? Going to google research it today.
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Our main street has a ton of good restaurants and stores that I love exploring, especially on nice autumn days.
DH: 31, Me: 27 Married May 2014 TTC #1: May 2015 September 2016-December 2016: Met with RE, fertility testing, diagnosis of tubal scarring, and plan of IVF *TW in spoiler boxes*
Surprise! Unexpected BFP 2/22/17 just when we were about to start fertility treatment!
Unfortunately, (but Thankfully), there aren't many around here that are dealing with MFI! So it's always comforting to know someone is with you, even if it sucks.
We haven't actually retested again, So I am not sure. Looking back, from before Clomid to after, there was roughly a 50% increase in the total count. Keep in mind, it tapers off as the correct amount of stuff gets in his system, so I doubt it would continue to rise at that rate. Plus, there is such a thing as too much, and it could have the opposite effect, thus, lowering the count. We just need to have another SA to check, we just have been putting it off. We will probably do that next cycle if this cycle doesn't work.
I believe Arimidex is similar to Femara, just different in structure. My doctor prescribed Clomid instead of either of those because he said there wasn't enough difference to matter, at our low of counts. *shrug* I got nothing on that.
TTC #1 since September 2014 Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI
(count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low
progesterone Check out my Infertility blog Check out my Infertility Instagram
Loss History (TW):
BFP: 3 May 2015, loss confirmed 4 June 2015 BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015 BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015 BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018 BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
TTC History (TW):
3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt
#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@persnickity - Exactly what I thought. Why the hell not? Glad your subsequent SAs came back good. As my doc puts it: Female issues are hard to diagnose, but easier to treat. Male issues are easy to diagnose, but hard to treat. Good luck!
TTC #1 since September 2014 Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI
(count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low
progesterone Check out my Infertility blog Check out my Infertility Instagram
Loss History (TW):
BFP: 3 May 2015, loss confirmed 4 June 2015 BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015 BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015 BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018 BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
TTC History (TW):
3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt
#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@viabug I wish I had good advice of how to deal with the people that say "it'll happen" but I don't deal with it well haha. When I'm feeling nice, I give a horendously fake smile and talk about something else. When I'm rude, I say "yea, that's what people have been saying for 14 months and I'm still not pregnant so we'll see..." ha!
@KristoB Good luck today with the HSG!!!! I'll be thinking of you! And I also hope your OB will be on board for the unmedicated IUI.
@viabug These questions/comments do get so annoying. I think like @mokay19 said, it depends on the mood I'm in. But for the most part I REALLY try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Most of the time they have no idea we're struggling, so to them their question/comments seem innocent. If you are comfortable enough with the people who say these things, I would just be somewhat honest. Depending on how honest you want to be of course. "We're trying! It's not always as easy for some as it is for others." Most of the time people will leave it at that. One time I went to pick up pizza (small town) and the lady behind the counter asked when we were going to have kids. And all I said was "When it happens, that's when it'll happen." And took my pizza and left LOL.
Eta: @Bababatty Thanks for the well wishes! IUI went great. Quickest and most painless one yet. I'm really hoping that because all of the stars aligned this cycle, this will be THE cycle. Of course, I hope that's the case for ALL of us!
@mrsdaddario - Thanks. HSG went okay. I have a tilted cervix so it was pretty painful. I'm bleeding a little more than I expected, but I'm not surprised. He really had to shove it up there. Right tube immediately spilled. The left did after several minutes of forced pressure. Hopefully that means something. He did say no to the IUI. Our numbers are just not good enough for non-medicated.
TTC #1 since September 2014 Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI
(count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low
progesterone Check out my Infertility blog Check out my Infertility Instagram
Loss History (TW):
BFP: 3 May 2015, loss confirmed 4 June 2015 BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015 BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015 BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018 BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
TTC History (TW):
3 losses in 2015 Met with OBGYN in January 2016 Me: all clear, H: OAT November 2016: HSG = All
Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt
#1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17 December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC) Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA) FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018 May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus" FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo. BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019 Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two! Lost Baby A 02 July 2018 Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018 Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
Next Up:
TTC Naturally, possibly IUIs for remainder of 2018. ER#2 ~Jan 2019
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Trying on our own... about 6 more weeks until our RE appointment. I'm hoping they dont make us do a ton of testing again (this is a new RE) since we're totally out of pocket this time around but we shall see
How are things going? OK, we have been doing everything we can on our end to make something happen, but I'm realistic that it won't with out help
Any questions? nope
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? we have so many parks and bike trails, I love to get out and go for a walk/bike ride.
@mrsdaddario and @laurad75 Fx for this cycle and that the TWW doesn't drag too much. @KristoB hopefully they were able to clear out some "cob webs" on the left side today, sorry it was painful. That's a bummer about not being able to do an IUI this cycle. Hopefully they can get a good plan in place for next cycle. I think that was the most frustrating thing for me the first time around is that the testing took 2 cycles and I just wanted to jump in with treatment. @persnickity creepy internet hugs, There is so much hope when you finally start medicated cycles that it's so much harder when it doesn't work. TW** my two pregnancies were on a 3rd IUI end TW** @Bababatty sorry the urologist is not getting back to you @viabug I usually ignore the statement. I just did not have the energy to educate everyone. Also at first we were very private about our struggles. Now we're pretty open about it and often tell folks that some folks need help. @kyersten if you ruptured your appendix then you would have had inflammation in your abdomen. depending on how bad that inflammation was if can cause adhesions (things sticking together) which could affect your tubes. Hopefully you don't have that problem
*TW*
TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Diagnosis (If you've been): male factor (of a sort)
Cycle/CD: 6/22
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) 50mg Clomid + Ovidrel trigger + IUI + Progesterone
How are things going? Clomid was not so bad after all. I had a weird IUI this cycle, 2 nurses couldn't get in my cervix and finally a doctor had to jab it in there. Not fun. Also not fun was BFN today 10dpo after a very active imagination convinced myself of all kinds of symptoms. Darn those progesterone supplements.
Any questions? No. just thanks for all the helpful answers I've already gotten from you folks already!
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? There is a pond near me that is great for jogging.
hey everyone. Been a while since I've checked in but I really appreciate the help you all gave me last month when I was hardcore struggling.
Diagnosis (If you've been): Blocked left tube
Cycle/CD: 13/ CD 25
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): TWW
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?): Nothing...so the conclusion of all of our tests for DH and me is that everything is fine except for my blocked tube and possibly that I'm ovulating later in the cycle than is "optimal", on some of my cycles. Apparently there's nothing that can be done about the blocked tube. For the "late" ovulation, I've been prescribed Femara but for now have decided not to fill the prescription. I do have 28 day cycles and ovulate on day 14 pretty often (got a positive OPK on day 14 this cycle! :-D), so although yes, some cycles are more like 30-33 days and I ovulate on day 17-19, that doesn't seem that bad to me, or bad enough to need medical intervention. I may feel differently after a few more unsuccessful cycles, since I understand Femara could up my chances by possibly making me ovulate on both sides at once, but right now I feel like I just want to keep trying on our own for a while longer.
How are things going?: So much better than last month, lol. I'm hugely relieved to learn that it is *possible* for us to get pregnant on our own (just our odds are cut by 50% since I can only get pregnant if I happen to ovulate on the right side that month). For now at least, I'm feeling like I can be patient and keep dealing with the disappointment of BFNs as long as I know a BFP is *possible* We are at 1 year + 1month of trying, but with 50% odds, I kind of feel like the "start worrying" point is actually 2 years for us, so... And while I really wanted to be pregnant before I turned 30, now that that ship has sailed and it's been confirmed that I still have a good number of eggs left, I'm feeling a little less of the biological clock pressure, at least, lol.
Any questions?: Not right now.
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town?: vinegar-based southern pork barbeque
@sapphire86 I understand not wanting to use medication if you don't need it, however, you don't have to worry about releasing an egg from each tube if one of your tubes is blocked. Even if you develop an egg on that side ad release it, it will not get fertilized. Hopefully you'll never have to use the meds though!
QUESTION: I have a question for people who use preseed.... if we had sex the previous night around 8pm and used about a pea size of preseed, is my CM around 8am legit? Or could that just be preseed coming out? I don't remember what happened last cycle in July when we used it.
I'm not sure if this is the right place for me, but here I am. Please feel free to tell me if this isn't the right thread for me.
Diagnosis (If you've been): Short LP and borderline high FSH, no reason just yet.
Cycle/CD: 8/12
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) Had day 3 testing and doing 7 dpo progesterone testing. FSH numbers from CD4 came back high just yesterday. I didn't get an actual number and was told AMH is well within normal.
How are things going? I feel like I'm in this limbo. I know something is up because my cycle has changed and my LP is 8/9 days, but I don't have more info than that and waiting for it stinks (which I'm sure is just stating the obvious lol)
Any questions? Anybody have a borderline high FSH... my OB doesn't seem that knowledgeable in this area, and going down the internet rabbit hole is not great for my anxiety at the moment. I have no idea what they do for this or if there is anything to be done. She seems to think since my other numbers are ok it's NBD, but google says differently (which is why I wish somebody could cut off my google access).
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Hmmmm, I do love all the apple picking / leaf peeping in the fall.
@mokay19: Right, I get that - that's why my chances are halved by the blocked tube - normally you only ovulate on one side each month, so if lefty is the one who ovulates that month, I'm out. But according to my doctor, Femara ups the chances that both sides will ovulate simultaneously, guaranteeing me a shot for that month since yes, the lefty egg would go nowhere, but righty's egg does have a chance. For that reason, I might try it...but right now I don't feel ready for that step yet.
@nikkiandchris Welcome, but sorry you are here! I hope you get some answers soon. The limbo totally sucks. Does your OB work in a practice with other OB's as well? If so, maybe you can ask to see one of the other doctors instead for your next appointment, to get a second opinion? I really did not like the first RE that I saw, so I asked to see one of the others within the practice instead for my next appointment, and no one gave me any grief about it at all - and I'm so glad I did, because I really liked the second doctor!
@nikkiandchris Welcome! I'm sorry you're in limbo. I don't know anything about FSH levels, but if you're not confident about your OB's knowledge in this area, I second the suggestion to see another in the practice if you can--or skip right on over to an RE. An RE would probably have a much better idea of what's going on.
sapphire86 and @bababatty you're both absolutely right. I think I'll do my 7 dpo testing then call the RE that my friend uses. I do like my OB, but understandably this just isn't her area of expertise. If I have to see another doc maybe it makes sense to go to someone who specializes in this. I haven't even grown the courage to ask my actual number yet, so I still have to psych myself up for all of it.
Hi ladies. I posted here a bit when I was initially doing some testing, but now that I'm going through treatment I wanted to hop back in.
Diagnosis (If you've been): NIR PCOS
Cycle/CD: 8/7
Status (WTO/TWW/TTA): WTO
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) IUI + Femara+ Progesterone
How are things going? I'm just trying not to get too excited. I know the odds that this will work are only 10-20% so I'm just trying to remind myself to stay reasonable. Today is the last dose of Femara and then I will go in for a follicle check on Tuesday.
Any questions? During an IUI cycle what sort of "regular" timing do you shoot for with your H? I know he has to abstain for a few days before the sample, so that sort of gets in the way...
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? We have a cool botanical garden. I live in the desert so you would think it would be boring, but we actually have some really fascinating kinds of cacti and succulents.
@antoto we did not try for any specific timing during our IUI's. We BD'd when we wanted to up until the time we were asked to abstain (for us usually 2-3 days prior to the IUI) and then when ever we were in the mood after that. I mostly relied on the IUI itself. GL this cycle!
*TW*
TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@antoto Ditto what @wabash15 said. We both have fairly high sex drives, so it ended up being ED up until the trigger shot, then when we felt like it after.
@antoto For an IUI round, since you never respond quite the same cycle to cycle, you won't truly know until a few days a head of time when exactly the IUI will be. We've always been asked to abstain the day before IUI only as we do not have MFI. So when I feel like it's getting close to what I assume with be IUI, I aim to HIO at least twice in that "FW".
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) 50mg Clomid + trigger shot + TI
How are things going? This is our first month on clomid and it was really rough with the side effects (mostly major mood swings and headaches). I was feeling super positive after our follicle scan last week, as I had prepared myself for bad news and was relieved that I had 1 mature follicle and 1 other bordering mature. Then I had a MASSIVE breakdown because we were only able to have timed intercourse at 12 hours and 55 hours post trigger shot. DH just couldn't do it when we were supposed to at 36 hours post trigger. We tried everything but it just wasn't happening. With all the side effects from the clomid, cost of treatments (we pay OOP), and letting myself get excited, I just couldn't hold back the sobbing. Now I feel spectacularly crappy for making DH feel so bad. I also feel hopeless about this cycle.
Any questions? We opted not to do IUI but considering how this month went I'm thinking maybe we should try it. My question is, do you ladies think IUI's will add even more pressure on DH?
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? apple picking & pumpkin festival in fall, metro parks, and taco trucks!
@behari welcome, I'm sorry things did not go as planned. On the upside sperm can live for up to 5days so your timing may have been good enough. It all depends with IUI your husband will have to produce a sample at a fairly specific time. I guess the best thing is to talk to him about it. GL
*TW*
TTC 1/2012 Diagnosed : unexplained infertility 6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015 TTC #3 5/2016 Restarted Fertility tx IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
@behari Welcome! I'm sorry about your frustration; it's completely understandable, especially when you've gotten yourself so geared up with all the medication and testing and then something doesn't go as planned.
I think IUI has a higher success rate than TI, so I'd definitely encourage considering it if you need to next cycle. I second what @wabash15 said. There's generally a somewhat narrow window in which to produce the sample. Some REs do it in-office and some allow at home collection, but you'll need to rush to the office afterward to get it in within a certain time frame (mine's an hour). We found at home collection to be unnecessarily stressful for a number of reasons, but I'd encourage you to talk to DH about all of this and investigate the collection possibilities allowed by your RE. Good luck!
@behari Welcome! I agree with PP's. IUI scientifically has a higher success rate than TI. If anovulation is your only issue I think the difference, at least my RE gave us these stats, is 4% chance per cycle with TI and oral stims vs 8% chance per cycle with IUI and oral stims. We have done four cycles of Letrozole and IUI, and the other ladies are right, the sample has to be collected at a very specific time. If your DH has performance issues, trying to collect at home may be the better option has he will be more comfortable there.
What are you doing this cycle? (Testing? Treatment?) IVF #2 currently on Gonal-F 187.5
How are things going? Have only been taking the shots for couple days now and apart from some minor blemishes haven't had any side affects. Really hoping to see many follicles developing in the next scan on Tuesday.
Any questions? My question is about fibroids, have any of you ladies had them and whether you've noticed IF meds affecting them? I developed one in the inner uterine lining last year when we did IUI and after our last IVF the scan showed small ones outside the uterus, now I'm worried about them growing with the extra hormones
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? hmm, my favorite must be running in the park and sunset gazing.
Thank you all so much for the support and advice on the IUI! Our RE told us that the success rates were only 2-3% higher with IUI if there are no MFI issues so we agreed to stick to TI for 3 cycles. I'm emotionally doing much better now and just trying to focus on what is ahead next month. I'll have a talk with DH in a few days about our plan for next cycle.
@IfYouCanDreamIt I have a couple of fibroids and rather large cyst that showed up a on a detailed scan last month. I've been wondering the same thing about how the IF meds may affect them. My RE didn't sound very concerned when I brought it up but she scheduled me for a repeat scan in 4 weeks.
Re: IF/Testing Check-in Week Oct31
Cycle/CD: 13/11 CD 15
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town?
I live in the heart of the Catskills. It's absolutely gorgeous here, especially in the fall. I love just driving around and taking in my surroundings!
Cycle/CD: 7/ 13
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Boston has the best restaurants. Most of my favorites are in the North End which is super close to us.
2017 - egg retrieval #1 - 3 eggs, 0 embryos appropriate for transfer; ER #2 2 eggs, 0 embryos on day 3; ER #3 1 egg 0 embryos
moved to donor egg in summer 2017; 35 eggs retrieved; 19 fertilized; 9 total embryos
Fresh transfer Dec 2017= BFP! baby boy born 8/22/18
May 2019 - surprise natural pregnancy ended in MC
Nov 2019 FET; MC at 9 weeks
May 2020 FET; BFN
July 2020 FET; CP treated with methotrexate
Oct 2020 BFP!
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@laurad75 I hope that your IUI and exciting cycle keeps going well!
AFM I still have some spotting going on but I figured since I can't go to the doctor before Saturday and we aren't doing an IUI, I might as well just deal with it and keep HIO! My follicle scan is on Saturday. If things are progressing at all, then we'll plan for when I trigger!
Cycle/CD: Cycle 27, CD7
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town?
We have the Bass Pro Headquarters here, so that's sometimes fun. I always take out of town friends there. We also have several caves to explore, lots of lakes, and beautiful parks.
@mrsdaddario - All my fingers and toes crossed for you. I look forward to the day we get to celebrate with you.
@laurad75 - FX for your IUI! I hope the first one works for you!!!
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
Cycle/CD: 11/1
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? I love going to the art museum! We have summer films outside in an amphitheater and a bunch of other really fun things to do as part of it. Also love the free concerts that happen weekly all around the city in summer and fall.
Sorry things are down for you at the moment. Keep your chin up.
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@mrsdaddario I'm so excited for you! How did your IUI go today? Really hoping this is your cycle!
@persnickity I understand your feelings after the first IUI. My reaction was similar. You get a lot of hope up because you finally feel like something is in your control and you're going to science your way to pregnancy, and then it's a huge let down. Or at least that was my reaction. Good luck with your next IUI! I don't do the TWW/WTO threads, but I went back and looked at yesterday's. Wow.
Diagnosis (If you've been): MFI (low motility)
Cycle/CD: 17?/CD 10
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? I live in NYC so probably my favorite is seeing all the Broadway shows we want whenever we want.
Cycle/CD: 18ish/24
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Toasted Ravs. MMMMM.... The most amazing thing ever. Completely beats regular Ravioli.
Rant: I just had a "friend" tell me "yeah but you're not infertile so why are you so upset".....Fucker, this is a couples thing. If he is the issue it has just as much of an impact on me and my psychology. My partner is not the one having to go through taking Clomid, or having a shot to trigger ovulation or the damn catheter being shoved in his cervix. I AM. So don't freaking talk down to me on the fact that since I'm not the one with the "issue" that I should emotionally be FINE. I'm emotionally effed up from the medication, bloating and pains of fertility medication because my partner has an issue. Shut your damn face.
Rage done..sorry.
Was the other med a gonadotropin? That was the other mentioned to us... Hmm. I hope you hear back soon! Keep me update, I also am interested in other people's MFI stories.
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
I'm glad to hear the Clomid did increase his counts slightly at the beginning. Does it look like they've still gone up in the ensuing months? Thank you for the tip on the FertilAid. Ive seen that come up with others on the board, so I've just asked DH to inquire about it when he reaches out to the doc again today.
I believe the other drug was Arimidex, which is an aromatase inhibitor usually used to treat breast cancer. I think it's used if too much testosterone is being converted to estrogen? I know the doctor talked about the circumstances under which he would prescribe each drug but of course I didn't write it down.
@Bababatty That's exactly it. This is why I love you ladies. You've all either been in the same situation or will be soon and understand exactly what I'm thinking/feeling.
Good luck to both of you with MFI. We thought we might be dealing with it, but his subsequent SAs have all been fine.
Diagnosis (If you've been): Starting testing next cycle.
Cycle/CD: 18/13
Next cycle I am doing - day 3 blood work, a transvaginal ultrasound, HSG, and a SA for DH.
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Our main street has a ton of good restaurants and stores that I love exploring, especially on nice autumn days.
Married May 2014
TTC #1: May 2015
September 2016-December 2016: Met with RE, fertility testing, diagnosis of tubal scarring, and plan of IVF
*TW in spoiler boxes*
We haven't actually retested again, So I am not sure. Looking back, from before Clomid to after, there was roughly a 50% increase in the total count. Keep in mind, it tapers off as the correct amount of stuff gets in his system, so I doubt it would continue to rise at that rate. Plus, there is such a thing as too much, and it could have the opposite effect, thus, lowering the count. We just need to have another SA to check, we just have been putting it off. We will probably do that next cycle if this cycle doesn't work.
I believe Arimidex is similar to Femara, just different in structure. My doctor prescribed Clomid instead of either of those because he said there wasn't enough difference to matter, at our low of counts. *shrug* I got nothing on that.
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
Good luck!
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
@viabug These questions/comments do get so annoying. I think like @mokay19 said, it depends on the mood I'm in. But for the most part I REALLY try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Most of the time they have no idea we're struggling, so to them their question/comments seem innocent. If you are comfortable enough with the people who say these things, I would just be somewhat honest. Depending on how honest you want to be of course. "We're trying! It's not always as easy for some as it is for others." Most of the time people will leave it at that. One time I went to pick up pizza (small town) and the lady behind the counter asked when we were going to have kids. And all I said was "When it happens, that's when it'll happen." And took my pizza and left LOL.
Eta: @Bababatty Thanks for the well wishes! IUI went great. Quickest and most painless one yet. I'm really hoping that because all of the stars aligned this cycle, this will be THE cycle. Of course, I hope that's the case for ALL of us!
He did say no to the IUI. Our numbers are just not good enough for non-medicated.
Diagnoses: RPL, Endometriosis, MFI (count, morph, DNI, DNAS, multiple bilateral subclinical varicoceles), low progesterone
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BFP: 15 August 2015, loss confirmed 23 August 2015
BFP: 16 November 2015, loss confirmed 22 November 2015
BFP: 18 July 2016, loss confirmed same day
BFP: 04 March 2018, loss confirmed 23 March 2018
BFP: 12 June 2018, TWINS; D&C 06 July 2018
Met with OBGYN in January 2016
Me: all clear, H: OAT
November 2016: HSG = All Clear!
January 2017: H tested again, High DNA fragmentation and stainability
February 2017: Clomid + TI + Progesterone = BFN
March 2017: Clomid + HCG + IUI + Progesterone = SA/wash: zero count on attempt #1, <1,000 on attempt #2= BFN
Varicocele Embolization- 5 May 17
December 2017 SA: Zero improvement after embolization
January IVF- 25 retrieved, 11 mature, 8 fertilized, 3 frozen day fives (3AA, 3AA, 3AA), 1 frozen day 6 (5BB), 1 frozen day 7 (3CC)
Three PGS normal (3AA, 3AA, 5BB), one inconclusive (3AA)
FET #1: 27 February 2018, 3AA & 5BB, one stuck! BFP 04 March 2018.... Loss confirmed 23 March 2018
May 2018: SHG/SIS = all clear "beautiful uterus"
FET #2: 04 June 2018, 3AA PGS normal embryo, 3AA PGS hatching inconclusive embryo.
BFP: 12 June 2018, EDD 20 February 2019
Ultrasound, 25 June 2018: There are two!
Lost Baby A 02 July 2018
Baby B not growing, D&C 06 July 2018
Laparoscopy, hysteroscopy, chromotubation: 23 July 2018: blocked right tube, heavily inflamed, covered in endo. Removed right tube. Removed more endo from uterus, tubes, ovaries. Endo remains on bladder and bowel.
ER#2 ~Jan 2019
Cycle/CD: 6/19
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? we have so many parks and bike trails, I love to get out and go for a walk/bike ride.
@mrsdaddario and @laurad75 Fx for this cycle and that the TWW doesn't drag too much.
@KristoB hopefully they were able to clear out some "cob webs" on the left side today, sorry it was painful. That's a bummer about not being able to do an IUI this cycle. Hopefully they can get a good plan in place for next cycle. I think that was the most frustrating thing for me the first time around is that the testing took 2 cycles and I just wanted to jump in with treatment.
@persnickity creepy internet hugs, There is so much hope when you finally start medicated cycles that it's so much harder when it doesn't work. TW** my two pregnancies were on a 3rd IUI end TW**
@Bababatty sorry the urologist is not getting back to you
@viabug I usually ignore the statement. I just did not have the energy to educate everyone. Also at first we were very private about our struggles. Now we're pretty open about it and often tell folks that some folks need help.
@kyersten if you ruptured your appendix then you would have had inflammation in your abdomen. depending on how bad that inflammation was if can cause adhesions (things sticking together) which could affect your tubes. Hopefully you don't have that problem
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Cycle/CD: 6/22
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? There is a pond near me that is great for jogging.
Cycle/CD: 13/ CD 25
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town?: vinegar-based southern pork barbeque
QUESTION:
I have a question for people who use preseed.... if we had sex the previous night around 8pm and used about a pea size of preseed, is my CM around 8am legit? Or could that just be preseed coming out? I don't remember what happened last cycle in July when we used it.
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Cycle/CD: 8/12
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? Hmmmm, I do love all the apple picking / leaf peeping in the fall.
@nikkiandchris Welcome, but sorry you are here! I hope you get some answers soon. The limbo totally sucks. Does your OB work in a practice with other OB's as well? If so, maybe you can ask to see one of the other doctors instead for your next appointment, to get a second opinion? I really did not like the first RE that I saw, so I asked to see one of the others within the practice instead for my next appointment, and no one gave me any grief about it at all - and I'm so glad I did, because I really liked the second doctor!
Cycle/CD: 8/7
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? We have a cool botanical garden. I live in the desert so you would think it would be boring, but we actually have some really fascinating kinds of cacti and succulents.
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
Cycle/CD: 13 months ttc/Cycle 9/CD16
Diagnosed : unexplained infertility
6 rounds of IUI and a MC 2/2014, rainbow twins 4/2015
TTC #3 5/2016
Restarted Fertility tx
IUI 2 rounds, baby girl 12/17
I think IUI has a higher success rate than TI, so I'd definitely encourage considering it if you need to next cycle. I second what @wabash15 said. There's generally a somewhat narrow window in which to produce the sample. Some REs do it in-office and some allow at home collection, but you'll need to rush to the office afterward to get it in within a certain time frame (mine's an hour). We found at home collection to be unnecessarily stressful for a number of reasons, but I'd encourage you to talk to DH about all of this and investigate the collection possibilities allowed by your RE. Good luck!
Cycle/CD: 30/5
GTKY: What is your favorite "local" thing to do/go/eat in your town? hmm, my favorite must be running in the park and sunset gazing.
Fibroid removed August2013
3 cycles on Glomid 2015
IUI#1 August2015 - BFN
IUI#2 October2015 -BFN
Fibroid removed December2015
IVF#1 June2016 (6 eggs retrieved, 5 matured, 3 fertillized, 1 transferred 1 frozen) - BFN
FET#1 August2016 - BFN
IVF#2 November2016 (3 eggs retrieved, 3 fertillized, transferred 2 ) - BFN
IVF #3 January2017 (5 eggs retrieved, 3 fertillized, transferred 3 ) - BFN
IVF #4 March2017 ( 4 eggs retrieved, 4 fertillized, double transfer ) - BFN no frosties
IVF #5 June2017 (1 egg retrieved, polysermy) Mini IVF - Bust
IVF #6 August2017 (4 eggs retrieved, 4 fertilized, transferred 2) - BFN no frosties
IVF #7 October2017 ( 4 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized, transferred 1 early blastocyst - BFN no frosties
IVF #8 December2017 ( 1 egg retrieved, 1 fertilized, transferred day 3 embryo) - BFN
IVF #9 February 2019 ( 1 egg retrieved, 1 fertilized, transferred day 3 embryo) - BFN
IVF #10 April 2019 ( 2 eggs retrieved, 1 fertilized, transferred day 3 embryo) - BFN
@IfYouCanDreamIt I have a couple of fibroids and rather large cyst that showed up a on a detailed scan last month. I've been wondering the same thing about how the IF meds may affect them. My RE didn't sound very concerned when I brought it up but she scheduled me for a repeat scan in 4 weeks.