I had a c section in early December. Unfortunately the baby didn't make it and now I am trying to conceive again. I have been trying now since the c section. One thing that is alarming me is that I have light red and pink spotting on and off up until I ovulate. I don't have the spotting during my luteal phase, just in my follicular phase. I have been reading about cesarean induced isthmoceles but I would expect the spotting to be brown (old blood) in that case wouldn't I? I found out I was pregnant in late March, but I miscarried at just under 5 weeks. It took me 3 months to get pregnant. I have been trying for two months since. Sometimes the spotting is heavier around near ovulation. For about 2 cycles I had a small gush of bright red blood mid cycle, no clots. Often the blood is mixed with mucus. I have been to the dr, they gave me an abdominal ultrasound and they won't do any more investigations or take me seriously. Health care is crap where I am living at the moment. I am originally from the UK but I am living abroad right now. I know it's not ovulation spotting. I usually ovulate on day 17-21 of a 32-35 day cycle and my period lasts 7 days and the spotting usually starts around cd 11 and it gradually builds up. I just want to know if anyone here has had a similar experience and if someone could help me.
Lurking on this board but you should add a trigger warning ASAP. Sorry for your losses. Are you ok'd by a doctor to be TTC so soon after a c-section and another loss? Bodies take time to heal and you're more likely to have a healthy pregnancy if your body isn't still in recovery.
What would my body be healing from specifically that would cause me to keep bleeding, though? The surgical scar from my c section should close instantly. Unless someone can give me an explanation I think there is something else going on. I have had thyroid tests btw and those came back normal.
Yep - please add trigger warnings to your post. I'm also sorry for your losses.
Most of us have not been pregnant, so you're probably not going to get a significant amount of help to your specific concerns since we haven't been there and don't have experiences to share. Also worth noting is that bleeding or spotting can happen at any point in your cycle for any reason, so it'd be a challenge to really narrow it down. angelabsb said:
What would my body be healing from specifically that would cause me to keep bleeding, though? Unless someone can give me an explanation I think there is something else going on.
We're not medical professionals, and probably best not to take medical advice from randos on the internet.
I am looking for someone else's personal experience, to see if it is similar to mine and what their doctor may have told them or if they had success conceiving in the future with or without medical help. I just would like a bit of hope, or some idea of what might be going on. Secondary fertility is a thing, I would have thought that there would be some people on this board who are having to go through that as well, as well as people who have been trying to conceive for a few months but don't know whether or not they have fertility problems. I know it may not seem like a long time, but I got pregnant on the first try first time around, so I am worried that something is going on.
btw I am having a hard time getting doctors to take me seriously. I am living out of my own country and health care is quite primitive here. I mentioned my surgical scar not healing properly and having it looked at via ultrasound and none of them knew what I was talking about. If this keeps on happening and I am not pregnant in a few more months or if I have another miscarriage me and my husband are going straight to a private fertility clinic, but in the meantime I am looking for similar experiences.
I would personally consider a pregnancy, c-section and less, and second pregnancy and loss in the span of 6 months a lot going with my body, and would really take that into consideration when it comes to TTC. That's a lot of changes back and forth for it to deal with, and it's going to take some time to stabilize again. I mean heck, they say to give it 3 months when you come off of birth control for your body and hormones to stabilize - you're throwing a LOT more into that mix. I'm sorry you're dealing with that, but before I would give yourself some time before you think about other things potentially being wrong.
Also - I noticed you edited your post earlier to include info on your scar and saying it should close instantly. Then you have said in your last post that you had issues with it. That further leads me to believe that you aren't healing properly or maybe not fully.
Just to note - if you edit a post here, it's good to add a note saying "edited" or "ETA" to note what you changed so people can follow.
It can take a healthy couple up to a year to get pregnant, so two months of trying unsuccessfully does not mean you are infertile. Especially when you combine that with the fact that you were in fact previously pregnant very recently. I understand you are nervous about what is happening with your body right now, but we are not medical professionals and unfortunately we can't explain what is happening any better than you can. Advocate for yourself and demand more information from your doctor.
Also as you so kindly stated, secondary infertility IS in fact a thing, and it's a thing that some women here do genuinely struggle with, not just speculate about. If you are looking for a diagnosis, we can't give it to you. As a matter of fact I find it highly insensitive that you are saying people are going through it "as well" as if you have already decided you have a diagnosis when you seem to have genuinely no reason to think that is the case. Please consider what you say a bit more carefuly.
Yes the scar SHOULD close instantly, under normal circumstances, but I have read in online medical journals that sometimes it doesn't and it creates a scar pouch which causes post menstrual spotting or bleeding, however, from what I have gathered the bleeding is usually oxygenated blood (brown blood) and I am getting fresh spotting. I see women getting pregnant in the first month of trying all the time, after c sections, after coming off of birth control, after miscarriages. If I am healthy, I don't see a reason why I can't try straight away, I might just need another c section.
*****lurker***** ticker warning************ Here is a personal experience - it has absolutely no bearing on your though, because everyone is different. I had a c section back in August. I was told to NOT TTC until at least 6 months because your INTERNAL scars might not be healed yet. Bleeding happens for any number of reasons, especially if your internal incision isn't healed properly.
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The 12 month thing is actually a myth. 38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month. 71% of couples will be pregnant within 6. Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months. If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month. It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
The 12 month thing is actually a myth. 38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month. 71% of couples will be pregnant within 6. Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months. If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month. It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
As someone who has been trying for 8 months, I'd like to kindly say to you: You are NOT a doctor and I don't know where you got that information that 12 months is a "myth." I find this specific post very offensive.
Most fertility specialists will not give someone an appointment until they have been trying for a year so your advice is ridiculous anyway.
edited for clarity
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OP if you know so much already on your own then can I ask why you need our 'advice'? While I respectfully disagree with your made up statistics, I think if you are unwilling to actually listen to anything we have to say then there is no point in this. You also seem to be unwilling to listen to yourself, since you aren't even at your own self proclaimed 6 month mark.
The 12 month thing is actually a myth. 38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month. 71% of couples will be pregnant within 6. Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months. If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month. It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
Welp, I'm just learning all sorts of new things. Care to cite where that new and ground breaking information lives?
I'm also shocked to hear that a c-section *incision* would close "instantly" (because PS, a scar is what comes after a wound is healed..). While I haven't had a c-section myself, I have had several other surgeries, none of which seem to have had the magic instantly closing and good to go incisions.
Seems like you know more than all of us, and that I need an infertility specialist ASAP.
*****lurker***** ticker warning************ Here is a personal experience - it has absolutely no bearing on your though, because everyone is different. I had a c section back in August. I was told to NOT TTC until at least 6 months because your INTERNAL scars might not be healed yet. Bleeding happens for any number of reasons, especially if your internal incision isn't healed properly.
This this this. Based on my experiences... With both of my c-sections, my doctor told me to wait at least 6 months if not a year to start trying again. Just because the scar closes "instantly" does not mean it has healed. A c-section is major surgery. Your ab muscles have been torn apart and need time to heal too. Yes, some people don't take that long but there is no way to check for sure to see if your internal scars are healed without going into surgery again.... Which causes more scars. This is why most doctors recommend waiting and was the reasoning why my doctor told me to wait.
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The 12 month thing is actually a myth. 38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month. 71% of couples will be pregnant within 6. Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months. If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month. It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
A myth that most doctors still stick to...?
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The 12 month thing is actually a myth. 38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month. 71% of couples will be pregnant within 6. Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months. If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month. It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
The only time it is recommended for someone to see an RE before 1 year if there are known issues, or the woman is over 35.
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Well ladies I got my ute goggled out and checked my uterus to see if after 10 months of actively trying I'm officially infertile and here is what I saw:
Yep. Dusty barren wasteland.
ETA: On a serious note: I have no idea what is going on with the spotting OP. I've never had a c-section. But I'd personally listen to the ladies who said their doctors told them to wait at least 6 months to TTC. That makes sense to me.
Also, I'm not saying you're wrong, but it seems strange to me that you'd ovulate only 3 weeks after having a c-section. I mean... my body took about 3 weeks to ovulate after my miscarriage and I was only 6w4d. If you were far enough along to need a c-section I'd think that your body would need a little longer. hCG usually takes awhile to fall back to pre-pregnancy levels (<5miu).
I think if you're having bleeding after your period then it's very reasonable to assume your body may need more teal to properly heal. Maybe listen to your body and give it a little more time. It's been through a lot lately.
I'm very sorry for your losses.
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Just because 30 (edited to add that Hi that means 70% of women do not)something percent of women do get pregnant on the first run doesn't mean it isn't absolutely normal for another woman to take 10 months. Again - the 12 month thing isn't a myth. It is perfectly okay to take several months.
I didn't see anybody mention this yet, but there's a specific board for Trying to Conceive After Loss. You may find people who have similar experiences or insights there.
@clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
@clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
That's actually what I've been thinking. I moderate (well, joint moderate with 2 other ladies) a TTC related community over on Reddit and I see people talk about The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant all the time. Like ALL THE TIME. Probably every day. And mysteriously those same statistics get thrown around a lot also. So I'm assuming a connection. If you're thinking you remember seeing them in the book then I think we've confirmed where they came from.
Choose your first month of trying very carefully – don’t automatically assume it will take 6 months to get pregnant. A lot of books and websites say that the chances of pregnancy each cycle are only 15% to 25% if you’re younger than 35 and 5% to 10% if you’re older. Many also say that it takes a 30-year-old woman an average of 7 months to get pregnant. I have no idea where these statistics come from, because according to the published research, they’re wrong. One study found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex at least twice a week got pregnant, on average, within 3 months. For those 35-39, the average was 4 months. Another found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex two days before ovulation – and only on that cycle day – got pregnant 35% of the time. The odds are even higher if you can predict your ovulation using the techniques I’ll reveal in Chapter 3: Between 67% and 76% of women under 35 who were aware of their fertile time conceived in the first month. If you use the methods of fertility awareness I describe in this book, you have a good chance of getting pregnant the very first time you try. So make sure that that first cycle isn’t too early for what you’re planning. But also realize that you might not get lucky the first time, and that doesn’t mean anything is wrong. (Plus your husband will be thrilled to keep trying a little longer). If you’ve already been trying for longer than 3 months, PLEASE don’t panic. It’s very possible you’re just timing things wrong
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Well ladies I got my ute goggled out and checked my uterus to see if after 10 months of actively trying I'm officially infertile and here is what I saw:
Yep. Dusty barren wasteland.
ETA: On a serious note: I have no idea what is going on with the spotting OP. I've never had a c-section. But I'd personally listen to the ladies who said their doctors told them to wait at least 6 months to TTC. That makes sense to me.
Also, I'm not saying you're wrong, but it seems strange to me that you'd ovulate only 3 weeks after having a c-section. I mean... my body took about 3 weeks to ovulate after my miscarriage and I was only 6w4d. If you were far enough along to need a c-section I'd think that your body would need a little longer. hCG usually takes awhile to fall back to pre-pregnancy levels (<5miu).
I think if you're having bleeding after your period then it's very reasonable to assume your body may need more teal to properly heal. Maybe listen to your body and give it a little more time. It's been through a lot lately.
I'm very sorry for your losses.
Yes I had my first period just under 7 weeks after my c section. I usually have 32-35 day cycles, although they have been known to be longer or shorter on rare occasions. I have been tracking my cycles and I did have a shorter luteal phase for sometime I guess.
I didn't see anybody mention this yet, but there's a specific board for Trying to Conceive After Loss. You may find people who have similar experiences or insights there.
I didn't see anybody mention this yet, but there's a specific board for Trying to Conceive After Loss. You may find people who have similar experiences or insights there.
Just because 30 (edited to add that Hi that means 70% of women do not)something percent of women do get pregnant on the first run doesn't mean it isn't absolutely normal for another woman to take 10 months. Again - the 12 month thing isn't a myth. It is perfectly okay to take several months.
Of course. But I am just worried because I conceived so quickly the first time around.
@clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
That's actually what I've been thinking. I moderate (well, joint moderate with 2 other ladies) a TTC related community over on Reddit and I see people talk about The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant all the time. Like ALL THE TIME. Probably every day. And mysteriously those same statistics get thrown around a lot also. So I'm assuming a connection. If you're thinking you remember seeing them in the book then I think we've confirmed where they came from.
Choose your first month of trying very carefully – don’t automatically assume it will take 6 months to get pregnant. A lot of books and websites say that the chances of pregnancy each cycle are only 15% to 25% if you’re younger than 35 and 5% to 10% if you’re older. Many also say that it takes a 30-year-old woman an average of 7 months to get pregnant. I have no idea where these statistics come from, because according to the published research, they’re wrong. One study found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex at least twice a week got pregnant, on average, within 3 months. For those 35-39, the average was 4 months. Another found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex two days before ovulation – and only on that cycle day – got pregnant 35% of the time. The odds are even higher if you can predict your ovulation using the techniques I’ll reveal in Chapter 3: Between 67% and 76% of women under 35 who were aware of their fertile time conceived in the first month. If you use the methods of fertility awareness I describe in this book, you have a good chance of getting pregnant the very first time you try. So make sure that that first cycle isn’t too early for what you’re planning. But also realize that you might not get lucky the first time, and that doesn’t mean anything is wrong. (Plus your husband will be thrilled to keep trying a little longer). If you’ve already been trying for longer than 3 months, PLEASE don’t panic. It’s very possible you’re just timing things wrong
Yeah I read that somewhere. It got me into a panic, because I had sex every day on some cycles and still didn't get pregnant.
@clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
Just because 30 (edited to add that Hi that means 70% of women do not)something percent of women do get pregnant on the first run doesn't mean it isn't absolutely normal for another woman to take 10 months. Again - the 12 month thing isn't a myth. It is perfectly okay to take several months.
Of course. But I am just worried because I conceived so quickly the first time around.
Just because you conceive quickly doesn't mean it'll happen quickly again. My first took 10 cycles. My second, first cycle. This time around is about to enter into cycle 5 of TTC with 5 of NTNP prior to that. My experience will likely have no bearing on you but there it is. Based on your thinking, none of my TTC experiences line up with each other.
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@angelabsb *tw loss* I got pregnant the first time twice, once I actually took the Plan B pill. I lost both. I then did 3 months with medical intervention with no luck. Here's to cycle 4. I'm also 23 and healthy. Previous pregnancies do not dictate how easily you may get pregnant in the future. Sorry for the shortness of this post. Mobile is a pain.
Choose your first month of trying very carefully – don’t automatically assume it will take 6 months to get pregnant. A lot of books and websites say that the chances of pregnancy each cycle are only 15% to 25% if you’re younger than 35 and 5% to 10% if you’re older. Many also say that it takes a 30-year-old woman an average of 7 months to get pregnant. I have no idea where these statistics come from, because according to the published research, they’re wrong. One study found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex at least twice a week got pregnant, on average, within 3 months. For those 35-39, the average was 4 months. Another found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex two days before ovulation – and only on that cycle day – got pregnant 35% of the time. The odds are even higher if you can predict your ovulation using the techniques I’ll reveal in Chapter 3: Between 67% and 76% of women under 35 who were aware of their fertile time conceived in the first month. If you use the methods of fertility awareness I describe in this book, you have a good chance of getting pregnant the very first time you try. So make sure that that first cycle isn’t too early for what you’re planning. But also realize that you might not get lucky the first time, and that doesn’t mean anything is wrong. (Plus your husband will be thrilled to keep trying a little longer). If you’ve already been trying for longer than 3 months, PLEASE don’t panic. It’s very possible you’re just timing things wrong
Well, that's depressing
OP, as someone with an actual infertility diagnosis it disgusts me that you suggesting you are dealing with secondary infertility for no reason except that you didn't get pregnant on the first cycle trying. With a c-section in December and a MC in March (sorry for your losses), you are nowhere close to being considered infertile at this time.
OP, I'm very sorry for your losses. That being said, I've been reading this entire thread like this:
A lot of it has come off to me as very insensitive to those with infertility and other diagnoses, and even those who have had to try for some time. Not being pregnant again in 2 months =\= infertility. I hope you can get a doctor's solution to your bleeding.
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As a dirty lurker I just wanted to throw in my two cents
*tw warning**
Most Obgyn say to wait one year after a csection to try again to make sure the uterus has completely healed. I really want my kids close together and am high risk for other reasons. My high risk OB agreed to let me try at 9 months after the c-section if we are ready to try again then. Getting pregnant soon after a csection puts you at much higher risk of miscarriage and uterine rupture which is why they tell you to wait. I would make sure your ob understands you are actively trying and feels that you are not risking your future fertility (ie uterine rupture) by continuing to try. Sorry for your loss!
I am so sorry for your losses. I don't have any advice but I did have a C-section and my doctor told me to wait a minimum of 6 months before TTC again.
Don't really post on this board, but lurking from the infertility board....
OP in the nicest way possible, I'm going to try to tell you to just chill the eff out. Your body has undergone a lot of trauma. I would listen to these ladies who said their doctors told them to wait 6 months after a c section. Furthermore, it is offensive to me, someone who has been trying to get pregnant for TWO YEARS, that you are trying to give yourself an infertility diagnosis. I think you need a gigantic reality check.
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When I from you see a different doctor each time usually and you don't really stay under anyone's care. I did seek medical help when I had my miscarriage and I wasn't told in the maternity hospital that I got pregnant too soon. That wasn't even mentioned.
@angelabsb It sounds like you've had a pretty rough go of it. I think your body is still really trying to heal. You didn't mention where you were when you had the C-section of the level of aftercare you've gotten, as in making sure that all of the layers of the incision have healed properly. You also didn't mention what kind of care you had after your miscarriage. Especially from your last post, it sounds like you've had patchwork piecemeal care from people who are just there to take care of the immediate problem. They may not have mentioned a recommended time to wait after the c-section or the miscarriage because they were just focused on taking care of that. Plus you've also said that the level of care isn't very high. So..... the fact that they didn't say anything doesn't mean that it's great to get pregnant that soon afterwards. For reference, we have a friend who had one baby by c-section, then accidentally got pregnant (I think they were relying on the notion that you can't get pregnant while breastfeeding) I think maybe 6-7 months afterwards. She initially wanted a VBAC but they told her that due to how recent her prior c-section was, they didn't even want her going into labor for fear that the incision in her uterus hadn't healed well enough to handle it and they worried about rupture. A c-section is serious and your uterus doesn't instantly heal, good as new.
I don't know where you are located now or why, but it would be worth putting in some serious work, and perhaps even some travel to reach a doctor who can provide a better level of care and some continuity in care. You need to find someone who can look at your entire history, do a complete, thoughtful physical, and can provide care now and in the future. We're not doctors here and even if we were, we haven't seen you or your charts or anything like that. So we can't tell you why you're spotting the way you are and when you are. However, as someone else who has their own female body to take care of and is has some knowledge of the subject due to that. If you had never been pregnant before, I would still find a reliable doctor and ask them just to be sure. With your history, if it were me, I would be pretty dang cautious right now. Yes, on one hand, you really want a take-home baby right this very moment, but on the other, this is serious business. Women in modernized places still die in childbirth when there were no known risks. Be careful. Be smart.
As for the rest of this thread. I think you need to step back and do some thinking about how you've behaved in this community. You came into an established community, paid little attention to the social norms here, didn't spend time learning about these people, and made your own kind of 'everyone cater to me and my question' post without ever giving anything back to the group. Then you got snippy because you didn't like the responses (we could have blown smoke but everyone tried to be helpful, even though you broke the cultural norms). Then, you made a pretty hurtful post that isn't necessarily backed in science about how unless something is wrong with you, you should totally be able to be KU nearly immediately. That one really hurt a lot of people. From those of us who have been here for less than six months, to those who have been here for close to a year, to those who have been trying for well over a year (some of them multiple years) to get a take-home baby and have all experienced some serious stress and anguish along the way. I get that you're stressed about what's going on with you and your body but... most of us are also stressed about what's going on with us and our bodies. Not cool.
Please go find a legitimate doctor who can provide some continuous care. Even if it becomes something where you have to do a lot of it over the internet and send labs and results. Find someone who will be invested in getting you a baby and keeping you safe. But also, please be more considerate of others. Everyone here is fighting their own battle.
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Re: I keep spotting in the first half of my cycle after c section? (trigger warning. loss mentioned)
Are you ok'd by a doctor to be TTC so soon after a c-section and another loss? Bodies take time to heal and you're more likely to have a healthy pregnancy if your body isn't still in recovery.
Most of us have not been pregnant, so you're probably not going to get a significant amount of help to your specific concerns since we haven't been there and don't have experiences to share. Also worth noting is that bleeding or spotting can happen at any point in your cycle for any reason, so it'd be a challenge to really narrow it down.
angelabsb said: We're not medical professionals, and probably best not to take medical advice from randos on the internet.
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Also - I noticed you edited your post earlier to include info on your scar and saying it should close instantly. Then you have said in your last post that you had issues with it. That further leads me to believe that you aren't healing properly or maybe not fully.
Just to note - if you edit a post here, it's good to add a note saying "edited" or "ETA" to note what you changed so people can follow.
Met: 2003
Married: 2005
TTC #1: May 2016
Also as you so kindly stated, secondary infertility IS in fact a thing, and it's a thing that some women here do genuinely struggle with, not just speculate about. If you are looking for a diagnosis, we can't give it to you. As a matter of fact I find it highly insensitive that you are saying people are going through it "as well" as if you have already decided you have a diagnosis when you seem to have genuinely no reason to think that is the case. Please consider what you say a bit more carefuly.
*Edited for clarification*
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
The 12 month thing is actually a myth. 38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month. 71% of couples will be pregnant within 6. Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months. If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month. It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
Most fertility specialists will not give someone an appointment until they have been trying for a year so your advice is ridiculous anyway.
edited for clarity
Dx: Both tubes blocked, PCOS, DOR, RPL
IVF Cycle #1 Dec. 2016 - 11R·11M·5F - Transferred 2 - BFP - Miscarriage - 0 Embryos Left
Married: November 2015
TTC#1: January 2016
BFP: 5/02/16 - MC: 5/27/16
I'm also shocked to hear that a c-section *incision* would close "instantly" (because PS, a scar is what comes after a wound is healed..). While I haven't had a c-section myself, I have had several other surgeries, none of which seem to have had the magic instantly closing and good to go incisions.
Seems like you know more than all of us, and that I need an infertility specialist ASAP.
Met: 2003
Married: 2005
TTC #1: May 2016
Married 07.21.07
DS#1 01.23.09
DS#2 08.01.11
TTC#3 08.31.15
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17
Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19
Left tube removed
dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
BC: February-October 2019
TTA: November-December 2019
NTNP: January 2020!
A myth that most doctors still stick to...?
Fur babies: Phoenix and Yeti (both cats).
September 2016- Infertility Testing
dx: Low Progesterone, Vitamin D Deficiency, Borderline PCOS
Treatment:
October 2016-January 2017- Metformin, Clomid/Letrozole, hcg trigger, progesterone
IUI- 2/17/2017 BFP 3/2/2017!
Formerly known as Kate08young
August '18 Siggy April Showers:
Married: 7/22/14
Baby L: 8/4/2015 August 2015 Moms
Baby E: 11/18/2016 December 2016 Moms
TTC #3 08/2017 BFP 11/27/2017.
Twin B lost 11/22/2017, Twin A doing well.
Yep. Dusty barren wasteland.
ETA:
On a serious note: I have no idea what is going on with the spotting OP. I've never had a c-section. But I'd personally listen to the ladies who said their doctors told them to wait at least 6 months to TTC. That makes sense to me.
Also, I'm not saying you're wrong, but it seems strange to me that you'd ovulate only 3 weeks after having a c-section. I mean... my body took about 3 weeks to ovulate after my miscarriage and I was only 6w4d. If you were far enough along to need a c-section I'd think that your body would need a little longer. hCG usually takes awhile to fall back to pre-pregnancy levels (<5miu).
I think if you're having bleeding after your period then it's very reasonable to assume your body may need more teal to properly heal. Maybe listen to your body and give it a little more time. It's been through a lot lately.
I'm very sorry for your losses.
TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss
Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
Baby #2 due June 12, 2018
Previously nweg...7878
1.) OP, go put a trigger warning on this post. Like, now.
2.) Your internal scar should heal instantly? Really, that's how that works?
3.) Cite your sources for your statistics, please. I'm a medical professional and I would like to read the study you are referring to.
https://forums.thebump.com/categories/ttc-after-a-loss
Me: 28 & Partner: 32 | Married 2014
BFP 7/29 EDD 4/11
ETA: I did some Googling and found a quote from the book on the topic in the excerpts section of the official website for the book. Here is it:
TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
Infertility, Recurrent Pregnancy Loss
Rainbow baby born June 6, 2017 ❤️
Baby #2 due June 12, 2018
Married 07.21.07
DS#1 01.23.09
DS#2 08.01.11
TTC#3 08.31.15
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17
Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19
Left tube removed
dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
BC: February-October 2019
TTA: November-December 2019
NTNP: January 2020!
Previously nweg...7878
Married: 5/30/2013
DSS #1: 5/25/2007
DSS #2: 1/22/2011
DS #3: 7/8/2012
BFP: 3/14/2016 ~ MC: 3/19/2016
DS #4: 4/21/17
OP, as someone with an actual infertility diagnosis it disgusts me that you suggesting you are dealing with secondary infertility for no reason except that you didn't get pregnant on the first cycle trying. With a c-section in December and a MC in March (sorry for your losses), you are nowhere close to being considered infertile at this time.
A lot of it has come off to me as very insensitive to those with infertility and other diagnoses, and even those who have had to try for some time. Not being pregnant again in 2 months =\= infertility. I hope you can get a doctor's solution to your bleeding.
then 3 failed IUIs, and finally a successful IVF FET.
Due with #2 5/2/19 after HIO once in my FW,
because apparently that's how life works now. Team Blue!
OP in the nicest way possible, I'm going to try to tell you to just chill the eff out. Your body has undergone a lot of trauma. I would listen to these ladies who said their doctors told them to wait 6 months after a c section. Furthermore, it is offensive to me, someone who has been trying to get pregnant for TWO YEARS, that you are trying to give yourself an infertility diagnosis. I think you need a gigantic reality check.
Together since 2008, married Sept 2013
ttc #1 since July 2014
DX: unexplained infertility
Sept, Oct, Nov Clomid 50 mg: BFN
Feb 2016 IUI w/ 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel, Prometrium: BFN
March 2016 IUI w/ 50mg Clomid, Ovidrel, Prometrium: BFN
June 2016 IVF: BFP 6/28!!! beta #1: 358, beta #2: 1428, beta #3: 3742
I don't know where you are located now or why, but it would be worth putting in some serious work, and perhaps even some travel to reach a doctor who can provide a better level of care and some continuity in care. You need to find someone who can look at your entire history, do a complete, thoughtful physical, and can provide care now and in the future. We're not doctors here and even if we were, we haven't seen you or your charts or anything like that. So we can't tell you why you're spotting the way you are and when you are. However, as someone else who has their own female body to take care of and is has some knowledge of the subject due to that. If you had never been pregnant before, I would still find a reliable doctor and ask them just to be sure. With your history, if it were me, I would be pretty dang cautious right now. Yes, on one hand, you really want a take-home baby right this very moment, but on the other, this is serious business. Women in modernized places still die in childbirth when there were no known risks. Be careful. Be smart.
As for the rest of this thread. I think you need to step back and do some thinking about how you've behaved in this community. You came into an established community, paid little attention to the social norms here, didn't spend time learning about these people, and made your own kind of 'everyone cater to me and my question' post without ever giving anything back to the group. Then you got snippy because you didn't like the responses (we could have blown smoke but everyone tried to be helpful, even though you broke the cultural norms). Then, you made a pretty hurtful post that isn't necessarily backed in science about how unless something is wrong with you, you should totally be able to be KU nearly immediately. That one really hurt a lot of people. From those of us who have been here for less than six months, to those who have been here for close to a year, to those who have been trying for well over a year (some of them multiple years) to get a take-home baby and have all experienced some serious stress and anguish along the way. I get that you're stressed about what's going on with you and your body but... most of us are also stressed about what's going on with us and our bodies. Not cool.
Please go find a legitimate doctor who can provide some continuous care. Even if it becomes something where you have to do a lot of it over the internet and send labs and results. Find someone who will be invested in getting you a baby and keeping you safe. But also, please be more considerate of others. Everyone here is fighting their own battle.
Married: June 2011
TTC since Feb 2016
BFP#1: 7/7/16 MMC: 8/16/16
BFP#2: 5/8/17 - CP
BFP#3: 6/27/17 EDD: 3/10/18