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I keep spotting in the first half of my cycle after c section? (trigger warning. loss mentioned)

angelabsbangelabsb member
edited June 2016 in Trying to Get Pregnant
I had a c section in early December.  Unfortunately the baby didn't make it and now I am trying to conceive again.  I have been trying now since the c section.  One thing that is alarming me is that I have light red and pink spotting on and off up until I ovulate.  I don't have the spotting during my luteal phase, just in my follicular phase.  I have been reading about cesarean induced isthmoceles but I would expect the spotting to be brown (old blood) in that case wouldn't I?  I found out I was pregnant in late March, but I miscarried at just under 5 weeks.  It took me 3 months to get pregnant. I have been trying for two months since. Sometimes the spotting is heavier around near ovulation.  For about 2 cycles I had a small gush of bright red blood mid cycle, no clots.  Often the blood is mixed with mucus.  I have been to the dr, they gave me an abdominal ultrasound and they won't do any more investigations or take me seriously.  Health care is crap where I am living at the moment.  I am originally from the UK but I am living abroad right now.  I know it's not ovulation spotting.  I usually ovulate on day 17-21 of a 32-35 day cycle and my period lasts 7 days and the spotting usually starts around cd 11 and it gradually builds up.  I just want to know if anyone here has had a similar experience and if someone could help me.
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    I also bled and spotted for 3 weeks after my miscarriage, then I ovulated and the spotting and bleeding abruptly stopped.  I am 28 years old btw.
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    jrouge12jrouge12 member
    edited June 2016
    Lurking on this board but you should add a trigger warning ASAP. Sorry for your losses.
    Are you ok'd by a doctor to be TTC so soon after a c-section and another loss? Bodies take time to heal and you're more likely to have a healthy pregnancy if your body isn't still in recovery. 
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    angelabsbangelabsb member
    edited June 2016
    What would my body be healing from specifically that would cause me to keep bleeding, though? The surgical scar from my c section should close instantly. Unless someone can give me an explanation I think there is something else going on.  I have had thyroid tests btw and those came back normal.
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    krys-2krys-2 member
    Yep - please add trigger warnings to your post. I'm also sorry for your losses.

    Most of us have not been pregnant, so you're probably not going to get a significant amount of help to your specific concerns since we haven't been there and don't have experiences to share. Also worth noting is that bleeding or spotting can happen at any point in your cycle for any reason, so it'd be a challenge to really narrow it down.
     angelabsb said:
    What would my body be healing from specifically that would cause me to keep bleeding, though?  Unless someone can give me an explanation I think there is something else going on.
    We're not medical professionals, and probably best not to take medical advice from randos on the internet.
    Me: 34 | DH: 35  
    Met: 2003
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    TTC #1: May 2016
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    angelabsbangelabsb member
    edited June 2016
    I am looking for someone else's personal experience, to see if it is similar to mine and what their doctor may have told them or if they had success conceiving in the future with or without medical help.  I just would like a bit of hope, or some idea of what might be going on.  Secondary fertility is a thing, I would have thought that there would be some people on this board who are having to go through that as well, as well as people who have been trying to conceive for a few months but don't know whether or not they have fertility problems.  I know it may not seem like a long time, but I got pregnant on the first try first time around, so I am worried that something is going on.
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    btw I am having a hard time getting doctors to take me seriously.  I am living out of my own country and health care is quite primitive here.  I mentioned my surgical scar not healing properly and having it looked at via ultrasound and none of them knew what I was talking about.  If this keeps on happening and I am not pregnant in a few more months or if I have another miscarriage me and my husband are going straight to a private fertility clinic, but in the meantime I am looking for similar experiences.
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    krys-2krys-2 member
    I would personally consider a pregnancy, c-section and less, and second pregnancy and loss in the span of 6 months a lot going with my body, and would really take that into consideration when it comes to TTC. That's a lot of changes back and forth for it to deal with, and it's going to take some time to stabilize again. I mean heck, they say to give it 3 months when you come off of birth control for your body and hormones to stabilize - you're throwing a LOT more into that mix. I'm sorry you're dealing with that, but before I would give yourself some time before you think about other things potentially being wrong. 

    Also - I noticed you edited your post earlier to include info on your scar and saying it should close instantly. Then you have said in your last post that you had issues with it. That further leads me to believe that you aren't healing properly or maybe not fully.

    Just to note - if you edit a post here, it's good to add a note saying "edited" or "ETA" to note what you changed so people can follow. 
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    Met: 2003
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    Yes the scar SHOULD close instantly, under normal circumstances, but I have read in online medical journals that sometimes it doesn't and it creates a scar pouch which causes post menstrual spotting or bleeding, however, from what I have gathered the bleeding is usually oxygenated blood (brown blood) and I am getting fresh spotting.  I see women getting pregnant in the first month of trying all the time, after c sections, after coming off of birth control, after miscarriages.  If I am healthy, I don't see a reason why I can't try straight away, I might just need another c section.
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    I apologize if I offended anyone.  

    The 12 month thing is actually a myth.  38% of couples will be pregnant within 1 month.  71% of couples will be pregnant within 6.  Only a remainder of 8% will get pregnant on their own within the next 6 months.  If you take couples who are suffering from diagnosed infertility out of the statistics, 41% are pregnant within 1 month.  It is actually recommended now by some fertility specialists that a couple should seek help after 6 months of trying.
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    NamelessAriaNamelessAria member
    edited June 2016
    meilay said:
    @clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
    That's actually what I've been thinking. I moderate (well, joint moderate with 2 other ladies) a TTC related community over on Reddit and I see people talk about The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant all the time. Like ALL THE TIME. Probably every day. And mysteriously those same statistics get thrown around a lot also. So I'm assuming a connection. If you're thinking you remember seeing them in the book then I think we've confirmed where they came from.

    ETA: I did some Googling and found a quote from the book on the topic in the excerpts section of the official website for the book. Here is it:

    Choose your first month of trying very carefully – don’t automatically assume it will take 6 months to get pregnant. A lot of books and websites say that the chances of pregnancy each cycle are only 15% to 25% if you’re younger than 35 and 5% to 10% if you’re older. Many also say that it takes a 30-year-old woman an average of 7 months to get pregnant. I have no idea where these statistics come from, because according to the published research, they’re wrong. One study found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex at least twice a week got pregnant, on average, within 3 months. For those 35-39, the average was 4 months. Another found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex two days before ovulation – and only on that cycle day – got pregnant 35% of the time. The odds are even higher if you can predict your ovulation using the techniques I’ll reveal in Chapter 3: Between 67% and 76% of women under 35 who were aware of their fertile time conceived in the first month. If you use the methods of fertility awareness I describe in this book, you have a good chance of getting pregnant the very first time you try. So make sure that that first cycle isn’t too early for what you’re planning. But also realize that you might not get lucky the first time, and that doesn’t mean anything is wrong. (Plus your husband will be thrilled to keep trying a little longer).
    If you’ve already been trying for longer than 3 months, PLEASE don’t panic. It’s very possible you’re just timing things wrong


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    TTC#1: January 2015- September 2016
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    Well ladies I got my ute goggled out and checked my uterus to see if after 10 months of actively trying I'm officially infertile and here is what I saw:



    Yep. Dusty barren wasteland.

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    On a serious note: I have no idea what is going on with the spotting OP. I've never had a c-section. But I'd personally listen to the ladies who said their doctors told them to wait at least 6 months to TTC. That makes sense to me.

    Also, I'm not saying you're wrong, but it seems strange to me that you'd ovulate only 3 weeks after having a c-section. I mean... my body took about 3 weeks to ovulate after my miscarriage and I was only 6w4d. If you were far enough along to need a c-section I'd think that your body would need a little longer. hCG usually takes awhile to fall back to pre-pregnancy levels (<5miu). 

    I think if you're having bleeding after your period then it's very reasonable to assume your body may need more teal to properly heal. Maybe listen to your body and give it a little more time. It's been through a lot lately.

    I'm very sorry for your losses. :(
    Yes I had my first period just under 7 weeks after my c section.  I usually have 32-35 day cycles, although they have been known to be longer or shorter on rare occasions.  I have been tracking my cycles and I did have a shorter luteal phase for sometime I guess.
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    TheJerilu said:
    I didn't see anybody mention this yet, but there's a specific board for Trying to Conceive After Loss.  You may find people who have similar experiences or insights there.

    https://forums.thebump.com/categories/ttc-after-a-loss
    TheJerilu said:
    I didn't see anybody mention this yet, but there's a specific board for Trying to Conceive After Loss.  You may find people who have similar experiences or insights there.

    https://forums.thebump.com/categories/ttc-after-a-loss
    Thanks I will take a look.
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    antoto said:
    Just because 30 (edited to add that Hi that means 70% of women do not)something percent of women do get pregnant on the first run doesn't mean it isn't absolutely normal for another woman to take 10 months.  Again - the 12 month thing isn't a myth.  It is perfectly okay to take several months.
    Of course.  But I am just worried because I conceived so quickly the first time around.

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    meilay said:
    @clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
    That's actually what I've been thinking. I moderate (well, joint moderate with 2 other ladies) a TTC related community over on Reddit and I see people talk about The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant all the time. Like ALL THE TIME. Probably every day. And mysteriously those same statistics get thrown around a lot also. So I'm assuming a connection. If you're thinking you remember seeing them in the book then I think we've confirmed where they came from.

    ETA: I did some Googling and found a quote from the book on the topic in the excerpts section of the official website for the book. Here is it:

    Choose your first month of trying very carefully – don’t automatically assume it will take 6 months to get pregnant. A lot of books and websites say that the chances of pregnancy each cycle are only 15% to 25% if you’re younger than 35 and 5% to 10% if you’re older. Many also say that it takes a 30-year-old woman an average of 7 months to get pregnant. I have no idea where these statistics come from, because according to the published research, they’re wrong. One study found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex at least twice a week got pregnant, on average, within 3 months. For those 35-39, the average was 4 months. Another found that women in their late 20s or early 30s who had sex two days before ovulation – and only on that cycle day – got pregnant 35% of the time. The odds are even higher if you can predict your ovulation using the techniques I’ll reveal in Chapter 3: Between 67% and 76% of women under 35 who were aware of their fertile time conceived in the first month. If you use the methods of fertility awareness I describe in this book, you have a good chance of getting pregnant the very first time you try. So make sure that that first cycle isn’t too early for what you’re planning. But also realize that you might not get lucky the first time, and that doesn’t mean anything is wrong. (Plus your husband will be thrilled to keep trying a little longer).
    If you’ve already been trying for longer than 3 months, PLEASE don’t panic. It’s very possible you’re just timing things wrong


    Yeah I read that somewhere.  It got me into a panic, because I had sex every day on some cycles and still didn't get pregnant.
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    meilay said:
    @clover28 Those stats sound familiar to me and I think they're from the book The Impatient Woman's Guide to Getting Pregnant. It's not a great TTC book IMHO but I read it because it seemed interesting and I found a cheap copy at a used bookstore. I remember that all throughout the book she kept citing these studies that she admitted were fairly small as I think a way of saying "But see, it happened for some women!" and I feel like those stats were in there. I'm not home right now so I can't double check but if I can I'll take a look at the book later this evening.
    That would be interesting.
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    angelabsb said:
    antoto said:
    Just because 30 (edited to add that Hi that means 70% of women do not)something percent of women do get pregnant on the first run doesn't mean it isn't absolutely normal for another woman to take 10 months.  Again - the 12 month thing isn't a myth.  It is perfectly okay to take several months.
    Of course.  But I am just worried because I conceived so quickly the first time around.

    Just because you conceive quickly doesn't mean it'll happen quickly again. My first took 10 cycles. My second, first cycle. This time around is about to enter into cycle 5 of TTC with 5 of NTNP prior to that. My experience will likely have no bearing on you but there it is. Based on your thinking, none of my TTC experiences line up with each other. 

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    DS#2 08.01.11
    TTC#3  08.31.15
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    Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
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    dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
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    meilaymeilay member
    @NamelessAria Yea it's one of those things where most of the book just feels good but isn't particularly informative. 
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    @angelabsb I also conceived during my first cycle for DS, but here I am TTC 8 cycles in and nothing....
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    Married: 5/30/2013
    DSS #1: 5/25/2007
    DSS #2: 1/22/2011
    DS #3: 7/8/2012
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    zoepaczoepac member
    As a dirty lurker I just wanted to throw in my two cents *tw warning** Most Obgyn say to wait one year after a csection to try again to make sure the uterus has completely healed. I really want my kids close together and am high risk for other reasons. My high risk OB agreed to let me try at 9 months after the c-section if we are ready to try again then. Getting pregnant soon after a csection puts you at much higher risk of miscarriage and uterine rupture which is why they tell you to wait. I would make sure your ob understands you are actively trying and feels that you are not risking your future fertility (ie uterine rupture) by continuing to try. Sorry for your loss!
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    I am so sorry for your losses. I don't have any advice but I did have a C-section and my doctor told me to wait a minimum of 6 months before TTC again. 
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    When I from you see a different doctor each time usually and you don't really stay under anyone's care.  I did seek medical help when I had my miscarriage and I wasn't told in the maternity hospital that I got pregnant too soon.  That wasn't even mentioned.
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