Month / Cycle: 21 temping/ 6 ntnp / 6 ttc Cd: 18/3 Timing: -4, -2 Testing: not yet Rrcs: TB ate my first attempt, so trying this again! FF moved my CH from cd13 to cd15, so it feels a bit like groundhog day over here. That makes or timing not as great maybe, but it is what it is. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/rc/wqfs9w23ebyg.jpg" alt=""> Gtky: I am definitely spiritual/religious, but my dad was a chemist and my mom is a doctor, so I'm also a bit of a mix. I'm actually off to sing at Church now, but will be back to read and comment later. Have a beautiful day, Bumpies!
R/R/CS: nothing really today. SS like crazy. Yesterday I actually googled "feels like something is pinching my ribs from inside ttc"...yup the BSC part of tww has begun
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
it depends so I think I'm a bit of both. I am not religious per se but I am spiritual. I believe in God and I enjoy going to mass but when it comes to things like when people are ill or even with ttc, I believe it is mostly science with a little help from the guy above so that's where I'm at.
Timing: great from CD9-19 and then again CD23/24 just for fun, not thinking it was FW time, but now I'm starting to doubt
Testing: BFN Friday, still no AF today and another BFN. Out of tests, so if no AF by Wednesday I'll buy more.
R/R/CS: I'm so confused right now. I know you're regular 'til you're not, and I just wish you could predict based on past cycles. Questions: 1) Do you ladies get EWCM at different points in your cycle? I have had noticeable EWCM twice in my life...a couple of months ago and today (TMI: I thought it was AF, so I ran to the bathroom, but no, it was just a TON of EWCM) I didn't even consider the possibility of ovulating now.... 2) I'm definitely going to start temping if I'm really not KU, so I went to scope out thermometers at the pharmacy (overseas, so they're labelled differently). How do you know if its a BBT thermometer or just a regular one? Does it have to say basal?
ETA: BSC, SS, and consulting Dr. Google has officially begun...and I was doing so well to avoid that this cycle!
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? A bit of both...I love science and math, but I also have a faith. In facts of the world and science, I don't see contradictions with my faith, so I would say a bit of both.
TTGP history (*TW*):
Started TTC Oct 2015 BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016 Re-started TTC Aug 2016 Started IF testing Nov 2016 Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017 BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
Testing: Tuesday/Wednesday maybe? I'm trying to make myself hold off.
R/R/CS: Woke up to a MASSIVE temp drop this morning - like, a full degree from yesterday. Which of course led to my laying in bed trying to furtively Google 'implantation dip' under the covers at 5:30am. Pair that with a crazy vivid pregnancy/labour/delivery dream last night and it's going to be a long, BSC few days.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? Both I guess? I'm not religious at all, and I like scientific proof of things but I do believe there can be spiritual guiding forces in our lives.
We're off to a MLB game today! Hope everyone has a great day!
@buthayna I've seen them labeled as Basal Body Thermometers or Fertility Thermometers. Just make sure the reading temp is two digits past the decimal (97.53 vs. 97.5).
Me: 32 DH: 33 Married: October 2015 TTC #1: October 2015 EDD #1: June/July 2017
Testing: I'd like to wait until 12dpo, but we'll see how BSC I become.
R/R/CS: This WTO was rough, I'm really happy to be here!
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
Both! H and I are active in our religious community, but also specifically chose a fairly progressive denomination that values science. We both love science and couldn't imagine being part of a faith community that ignores it.
@houseofsetters Welcome! We're glad you're over here in TWW too FX! @MelissaM090 Thanks for the clarification! I'm glad I didn't buy the one I saw today...I think it only went to the tenths place, I'll have to check!
TTGP history (*TW*):
Started TTC Oct 2015 BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016 Re-started TTC Aug 2016 Started IF testing Nov 2016 Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017 BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
@BusinessWife Ouch on FF moving your CHs! I'd agree with its current placement of it. At least you had sex during your FW though! @buthayna - I had EWCM once a couple of cycles ago at 9dpo. Like yours, it was brief. Hope yours actually means something -- lol I misread, you said a ton... definitely have never had a ton after O. Also, I don't know if you have Amazon delivery where you are, but you can get the Mabis (the one a lot of people use here) on there. @MelissaM090 - Oh no, sorry about the temp drop. Is your LP usually short? That seems like a huge drop for 9dpo. Hope you have fun at the game! @houseofsetters - Yay! Glad you made it over here!
Testing: No plans to at all this cycle. Just going to ride the crazy wave!
R/R/CS: Like last cycle, FF thinks I've gone triphasic. I don't buy it. But, I do gotta say, I appreciate their symptom logging for keeping BSC in check. Not that I’m experiencing a lot of it but omg back ache, bloating, AND a headache? Never experienced that before… except oh wait… yes I did, last cycle around this same time Oh how the mind forgets the things it wants to.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I'm agnostic. It's a hard label to fall under because you get crap from everyone for it. But I'm fine with it. Just like I don't know what's beyond the universe walls or if we have multiverses, I don't know if there is some higher being(s), so I generally operate as if there weren't. I will say that when I was a teenager, I was a practicing Quaker for a while. Their "service" is basically 1 hour of sitting in a square and meditating, which I found very cool.
Testing: Going to hold out until the end of the week. I usually start spotting around day 10 or 11, so if I'm not spotting this cycle, I'll test.
R/R/CS: Feeling a lot better today! Mood is brighter and not feeling as crummy as the last few days. Temp went up slightly but not counting on it staying up. I'm not sure what constitutes an implantation dip and my temps are always erratic, so...
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? Not religious at all. I grew up Catholic and married into a religious family but I've never understood it all. I consider myself quite spiritual and practice yoga and meditation. I also heavily believe in science. I feel lucky to be part of 2 families that accept me as is and don't judge me for being/not being religious.
@canavara it was a ton to me...maybe not a ton for other people, I don't really know what's normal...but I usually have none, so if it was enough for me to think AF was here, it seemed like a ton! Who knows, maybe I'm ovulating and I'm in a random long cycle and I've spent 2 weeks in the TWW for nothing Definitely temping next cycle!
I can get Amazon UK where I am (just with extra shipping fees)...I'll check on the Mabis! Thanks
ETA: I found this, but it says to within 1/10th of a degree, which would be the first decimal place...but the picture shows two decimal places and @MelissaM090 said to the nearest hundredth....not sure if that's what I want or not :S
TTGP history (*TW*):
Started TTC Oct 2015 BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016 Re-started TTC Aug 2016 Started IF testing Nov 2016 Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017 BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
R/R/CS: YAYYYYY I belong here now! After 4 grueling months of DH having performance anxiety, it is sooo soooo wonderful to finally be here. We are finally on the right track and I am thrilled.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I'm not religious or science-y. I just believe that there's a God out there and I pray every night. DH would like to start going to church, and I am not opposed to that.
Married 10/4/2014 (10-4, good buddy!) Baby Boy #1 born 1/9/17 Baby Boy #2 EDD 11/4/18
"It's when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway and see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do." -Atticus Finch, To Kill A Mockingbird
ETA: I found this, but it says to within 1/10th of a degree, which would be the first decimal place...but the picture shows two decimal places and @MelissaM090 said to the nearest hundredth....not sure if that's what I want or not :S
Yeah that's the one. Not sure why it says 1/10, it's definitely accurate to the hundredth (if you look at the images of it, it has 98.60 on all of the readings instead of 98.6)
@businesswife I hate when FF does that! How rude. Good thing you still have timing in there. @Buthayna I have noticed EWCM at different times, more during the FW, but it is definitely possible. As far as the thermometer I believe it does have to say BBT. Is Amazon an option? I got mine for $8. @MelissaM090 lol The universe is not helping you out with the crazies, huh? FX this all leads to a positive ending. I think Google is getting a good workout this weekend. @houseofsetters Yay for CH! Happy to see you over here. Your timing is excellent! @canavara Ugh, I hate when FF feeds into the crazy! That is one of the reasons why I didn't get the VIP service again, it was just a little too much extra stuff. GL! @kenya715 So glad to hear you are feeling in better spirits today. Sending positive thoughts your way! @gonetothesea Congrats on CH! That is so exciting. That is great to hear that things are looking up! Your timing is awesome!
Month/Cycle: 9/9
CD/DPO: 25/8
Timing: Who knows!
Testing: Nope.
R/R/CS: So my PMS is in full force this weekend, which means I have been getting the most out of Google and that is the only reason why I still have a glimmer of hope. Reality is, looks like I O'd earlier than I thought and we have no idea what our timing is now. Kinda just waiting for my period now. I also feel like I am coming down with the dreaded cold, so I guess I will be drowning my sorrows with tea today. Yesterday, I cried at a huggies commercial, like full on, ugly cried. So now I am all like
GTKY: Definitely a healthy mix of both. I am more spiritual than religious, but DH and I do try to make it to church when we can. I am all for mixing in science when it comes to our health.
@PepperAT@MelissaM090@canavara thanks for all your help! I ordered it (and 50 pregnancy tests) and I can't wait for them to come! Now I need to get researching so I know what the heck to do!
For anyone reading who temps vaginally: this might be an awkward question, but do you just stick it in? does it matter how far it goes as long as the tip is in there? It seems to be the popular opinion that vaginal temping is more precise than oral temping, so I'm going to just start with that, I think. I feel like I've wasted enough time not temping that I don't want to risk wasting cycles/data on unreadable charts IF I'm one of the people who have difficult-to-read charts from oral temping like some (not all) people end up having.
TTGP history (*TW*):
Started TTC Oct 2015 BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016 Re-started TTC Aug 2016 Started IF testing Nov 2016 Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017 BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
Married 10/4/2014 (10-4, good buddy!) Baby Boy #1 born 1/9/17 Baby Boy #2 EDD 11/4/18
"It's when you know you're licked before you begin, but you begin anyway and see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do." -Atticus Finch, To Kill A Mockingbird
R/R/CS: last night we had some people over for a BBQ and it was really nice. My pup Posey made a new friend... Buster! (Buster Posey is a catcher for the Giants).
Posey (left) was just excited to have a dog to play with that was more his size. He's usually around big dogs all the time.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
I'd say a little of both. Grew up in a very religious family so I still have that background but I have a more black and white type mind frame that tends to lean on the sciences more.
R/R/CS: My temp went way up today. FF moved my CH to CD15 on Advanced method, but I still think I o'd on CD13. On FAM method, it has CH on CD13. Either way, I have pretty good timing. I feel warm this morning and my throat is a little sore, hopefully I'm not getting sick.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I would say I'm a little bit of both. I'm in the medical field so I think science. But I believe in God and spirituality.
@Buthayna I usually just put the thermometer in about a couple of centimeters and rest it against the vaginal wall to make sure it gets a good reading. I one time made the mistake of putting it in way too far and poked my cervix--not a fun mistake
Testing: I have a fresh pack of wondfos so while I'm mentally telling myself 10 or 11 DPO, I might start sooner than that.
R/R/CS: I have started stalking the "charts like mine" feature and have been seeing if the "pregnant" versus "ovulation" percentage goes up. I call BS on many of those charts though. Some are literally the same temp for days and days and it's a pregnancy chart.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I was born and raised Catholic so I believe in God and angels and stuff like that. But I also know science is real and can't stand anti-vaxxers and people who spout pseudoscience.
Me: 33 DH: 31 DS: 5 years old TTC #2 since August 2015 July 2016: Testing cycle with 100 mg Clomid = BFN August 2016: 50 mg Clomid + IUI = BFN October 2016: IVF#1 - 13 retrieved / 12 mature / 9 fertilized / 2 blasts November 2016: FET#1 = chemical January 2017: FET#2 = chemical March 2017: IVF#2 - 18 retrieved / 18 mature / 16 fertilized / 5 blasts
April 24, 2017: FET#3 - BFN May 24, 2017: FET#4 - BFP! - Beta #1 151 - Beta #2 503 - Due date 2/9/18
@canavara @PepperAT thanks, now i wish i had just ignored when it gave me dotted crosshairs, i might have pushed more to bd on cd15, which would have been O, but i was thinking if it was +2 then who cares, let's just go to sleep! Lol @NurseMarie9 I guess that is FF's mo today! Only opk method leaves mine at cd13 and i think maybe fam has me at cd14. :p glad you feel confident in your original O-date! @linzrunz They are so darn cute!!! @Marley629 Yep! 7dpo sounds like the bsc is right on schedule! @houseofsetters @gonetothesea Yay! Glad to see you here! And with great timing, no less! ;) @MelissaM090 sounds like you have a fun day in store! It's been so long since I've been to a live game. Did your team win? @Kenya715 glad you're feeling better! As far as implantation dips, FWIW, I try not to pay attention. First time I saw one I looked up a video online, where she shows chart with this beautiful ID, then she's all, "unfortunately, this woman did not get pregnant this cycle, " so that pretty much burst that whole bubble for me right there. I have had several cycles with implantation dips, or triphasic, and still not pregnant,so for me, I totally Do. Not. Care. If I see an ID on my chart. Not worth the stress ;) FX for you this cycle!! @Buthayna glad you found your bbt and have it in the way! @Megzb510 great timing! I now what you mean about the charts like mine. I try not to get too sucked down that rabbit hole if i can help it! Lol Eta mobile ap legit ate 3/4 of my comment. I was even copying and pasting it into text messages when I would reload TB, cos it kept saying i didn't have permission, but i guess I wrongly assumed when it was looking like it was about to post, it would include the whole thing. I tried to fill back in the ones that got cut, but I'm sorry if missed anyone in the commotion!! Also, So. Many. Auto-correct fails.
R/R/CS: Big ol' temp drop today to just below cover line. I already knew I was out, but it still made me feel a little crummy. I can't let go of that little ray of baby making hope!
In other news, I'm on call from work today so I've been outside setting up my container garden in some pots, and I'm line drying clothing for the first time! Might do look at some houses with the hubs.
GTKY: I think I'm both. I go to mass every Sunday (that I'm not working, that is), I truly believe what I'm going for... But I'm also very scientific/logical in my speech and thought pattern and I need a lot of evidence to back up any decisions I make, etc. I even see my religious and spiritual beliefs as somewhat backed up by experience - I frequently say "if it's been around for 2000 years, something's going on" and my career as a nurse has so far shown me a lot of things I see as "evidence" of something more, for lack of a better way to put it.
@Marley629 - That kind of wraps up how I feel, in a lot less words. Science with a little help. Also yesterday I googled "butterflies at 8 DPO" so like, I'm with ya on the crazy.
@MelissaM090 - Have fun at the game!! I had a huge dip today, too... And have managed to not google temp dip at 9 DPO yet, but man. Man.
@canavara - oh my goodness I hope I can hold out and not test at all like you plan to. That's my current plan, but we will see. I have zero tests in the house to help me out.
@Buthayna - Pretty much every time I get EWCM it's enough for me to run to the bathroom in fear. Well, I guess now that I'm tracking my cycle and I know to expect it, I don't, but I definitely used to. But I get it with every cycle.
@PepperAT - I got super pissed at DH last night, for less than necessary of a reason, and decided it was a totally KU symptom. Then today I was like, oh right PMS... Hahaha. I'm sorry you have a cold!! Maybe if you do get AF soon you can make a hot toddy ❤️
@NurseMarie9 - I still can't decide if I should use advanced or FAM on a regular basis. Half of my cycles I interpret on my own.
@Megzb510 - I can't agree with you more on the annoyed by pseudoscience and anti-vaxxers. Big peeves.
<span class="vanilla-mention-@">@khbear ((hugs)) to you. Sounds like you are making the most of a beautiful day, though! I can hardly wait to get going on my container garden on the deck... today we're on our way down to visit grandma in the hospital. Yesterday was her 86th birthday! :D </span>
*Question: Is green tea okay in TWW or could it have any effect on implantation?
@gonetothesea yay for CH! Your timing looks great! @PepperAT Sorry you're feeling down. I feel like I'm coming down with something also. I'll probably need some tea later today. @Megzb510 I also have wondfos on hand this time, I want to wait until CD11 but I'm sure I'll start sooner lol @BusinessWife dang FF can't make up its mind! At least it looks like with your timing, you're still in the game! @Khbear sorry about the temp drop Enjoy your gardening today! I can't wait to get my container pots going.
<span class="vanilla-mention-@">@NurseMarie9 I think it's fine but I'm not an expert. I would say drinking a few cups like normal is good, I just wouldn't go taking green tea supplement pills. I believe it's just the caffeine that's the issue.</span>
@NurseMarie9 I agree, everything in moderation! I do remember reading somewhere that green tea can decrease or prevent? ( I can't think of the proper word) the ability to absorb folic acid. But I think it is similar to coffee, as long as you are not chugging it all day long.
*Question -- after reading about the green tea, is there something/an article out there that you all are referencing that you'd recommend to see what to do and what not to do (food and drink-wise) while you're in the TWW? I thought you could continue to do/eat whatever you've been eating with no problem and adjust if there is a BFP? I'm learning something new everyday!
Me: 37 | DH: 43 Together since: 2009 Married: May 2015 TTC Since: Jan 2016
<span class="vanilla-mention-@">@futuremrshp ya, that's true. Most any normal foods and drink are fine. You just want to watch when you start getting into certain herbs and supplements. Like I have a fertilitea that is specifically for the follicular phase, but not recommended after you confirm O. I had a supplement that was clearly labeled not to take if you may become pregnant, but otherwise you are absolutely correct. Some people limit caffeine or alcohol, others are, "drink till it's pink." To each their own!</span>
R/R/CS: Well hello! I'm optimistically going to jump in over here, though i'm about 80% confident FF will take away my crosshairs any day now (already did it once, early last week).. This has been my first cycle off BCP (which I was on for ~12 years) and boy has it been a doozy..
Any professional opinions on whether i've actually ovulated this time around? Those two high temps I woke up feeling pretty warm, but the last two days have felt normal - even though they're lower they're still some of my highest temps. I guess the only real answer is 'wait another 9 days and see' but speculation seems so much more fun.. Chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6358d1 [as a side note, I don't actually ever sleep for 3 full hours in a row, so that's probably not helping here..]
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I'm agnostic and very much science-y.
@BusinessWife - (hugs)! I got it part way finished today. I need one more container, and I'm thinking of growing either my zucchini or my lettuce/spinach in an old metal washtub. I just need to drill holes in the bottom. Happy birthday to your grandma!
@NurseMarie9 - Gardening was totally therapeutic, and I kind of felt a bit "circle of life"-y while doing it, from a TTC perspective. Yknow, planting seeds and what not. Also I drink green tea all the time. I'm not KU yet so who knows, but the only issue I've really heard of is it may inhibit folic acid absorption? Like @PepperAT said, I think in moderation it won't hurt you. I just don't drink it when I'm taking my PNV.
@futuremrshp - I totally back up what @BusinessWife said. The only thing I can think to add is just trying to eat and be healthier in general, because a healthy body helps a healthy pregnancy down the road. And in general it's good for you!
@khbear oh! Thanks for reminding me that I have plants that need to actually be planted in their containers before I kill them Month/Cycle: 3/3
CD/DPO: 22 (todayyyyyy)
Timing: sucky. I o'd later than I typically do and DH went out of town so blah.
Testing: not yet haha but tomorrow will start the SS and countdown to obsessive wasting of pee sticks I'm sure.
R/R/CS: ...nothing I guess!
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
Definitely religious. I grew up in a "spiritual but we don't do organized religion" home but found and joined a church when I was in high school. Still there today.
Re: TWW Sunday
Cd: 18/3
Timing: -4, -2
Testing: not yet
Rrcs: TB ate my first attempt, so trying this again! FF moved my CH from cd13 to cd15, so it feels a bit like groundhog day over here. That makes or timing not as great maybe, but it is what it is.
<img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/5020794/uploads/editor/rc/wqfs9w23ebyg.jpg" alt="">
Gtky: I am definitely spiritual/religious, but my dad was a chemist and my mom is a doctor, so I'm also a bit of a mix. I'm actually off to sing at Church now, but will be back to read and comment later. Have a beautiful day, Bumpies!
CD/DPO: 18/7
Timing: -2,-1
Testing: friday
R/R/CS: nothing really today. SS like crazy. Yesterday I actually googled "feels like something is pinching my ribs from inside ttc"...yup the BSC part of tww has begun
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
it depends so I think I'm a bit of both. I am not religious per se but I am spiritual. I believe in God and I enjoy going to mass but when it comes to things like when people are ill or even with ttc, I believe it is mostly science with a little help from the guy above so that's where I'm at.
DX Diminished Ovarian Reserve, Factor V Leiden Mutation, Secondary Infertility
MFI (SA #1Count 11mill, Motility: 18%, Morphology: 1%)
AMH .328 | FSH 13.2
Month/Cycle: 6/6
CD/DPO: 32
Timing: great from CD9-19 and then again CD23/24 just for fun, not thinking it was FW time, but now I'm starting to doubt
Testing: BFN Friday, still no AF today and another BFN. Out of tests, so if no AF by Wednesday I'll buy more.
R/R/CS: I'm so confused right now. I know you're regular 'til you're not, and I just wish you could predict based on past cycles. Questions:
1) Do you ladies get EWCM at different points in your cycle? I have had noticeable EWCM twice in my life...a couple of months ago and today (TMI: I thought it was AF, so I ran to the bathroom, but no, it was just a TON of EWCM) I didn't even consider the possibility of ovulating now....
2) I'm definitely going to start temping if I'm really not KU, so I went to scope out thermometers at the pharmacy (overseas, so they're labelled differently). How do you know if its a BBT thermometer or just a regular one? Does it have to say basal?
ETA: BSC, SS, and consulting Dr. Google has officially begun...and I was doing so well to avoid that this cycle!
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? A bit of both...I love science and math, but I also have a faith. In facts of the world and science, I don't see contradictions with my faith, so I would say a bit of both.
BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016
Re-started TTC Aug 2016
Started IF testing Nov 2016
Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017
BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
CD/DPO: 23/9
Timing: -3, -1, 0
Testing: Tuesday/Wednesday maybe? I'm trying to make myself hold off.
R/R/CS: Woke up to a MASSIVE temp drop this morning - like, a full degree from yesterday. Which of course led to my laying in bed trying to furtively Google 'implantation dip' under the covers at 5:30am. Pair that with a crazy vivid pregnancy/labour/delivery dream last night and it's going to be a long, BSC few days.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? Both I guess? I'm not religious at all, and I like scientific proof of things but I do believe there can be spiritual guiding forces in our lives.
We're off to a MLB game today! Hope everyone has a great day!
@buthayna I've seen them labeled as Basal Body Thermometers or Fertility Thermometers. Just make sure the reading temp is two digits past the decimal (97.53 vs. 97.5).
DH: 33
Married: October 2015
TTC #1: October 2015
EDD #1: June/July 2017
CD/DPO: 30/3
Timing: -5, -4, -3, -1, +1
Testing: I'd like to wait until 12dpo, but we'll see how BSC I become.
R/R/CS: This WTO was rough, I'm really happy to be here!
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
Both! H and I are active in our religious community, but also specifically chose a fairly progressive denomination that values science. We both love science and couldn't imagine being part of a faith community that ignores it.
Edit: gif issues!
@MelissaM090 Thanks for the clarification! I'm glad I didn't buy the one I saw today...I think it only went to the tenths place, I'll have to check!
BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016
Re-started TTC Aug 2016
Started IF testing Nov 2016
Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017
BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
@buthayna - I had EWCM once a couple of cycles ago at 9dpo. Like yours, it was brief. Hope yours actually means something -- lol I misread, you said a ton... definitely have never had a ton after O. Also, I don't know if you have Amazon delivery where you are, but you can get the Mabis (the one a lot of people use here) on there.
@MelissaM090 - Oh no, sorry about the temp drop. Is your LP usually short? That seems like a huge drop for 9dpo. Hope you have fun at the game!
@houseofsetters - Yay! Glad you made it over here!
CD/DPO: 27/10
Timing: -3,0,+1
Testing: No plans to at all this cycle. Just going to ride the crazy wave!
R/R/CS: Like last cycle, FF thinks I've gone triphasic. I don't buy it. But, I do gotta say, I appreciate their symptom logging for keeping BSC in check. Not that I’m experiencing a lot of it but omg back ache, bloating, AND a headache? Never experienced that before… except oh wait… yes I did, last cycle around this same time Oh how the mind forgets the things it wants to.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
I'm agnostic. It's a hard label to fall under because you get crap from everyone for it. But I'm fine with it. Just like I don't know what's beyond the universe walls or if we have multiverses, I don't know if there is some higher being(s), so I generally operate as if there weren't. I will say that when I was a teenager, I was a practicing Quaker for a while. Their "service" is basically 1 hour of sitting in a square and meditating, which I found very cool.
CD/DPO: 25/7
Timing: -3, -2, -1
Testing: Going to hold out until the end of the week. I usually start spotting around day 10 or 11, so if I'm not spotting this cycle, I'll test.
R/R/CS: Feeling a lot better today! Mood is brighter and not feeling as crummy as the last few days. Temp went up slightly but not counting on it staying up. I'm not sure what constitutes an implantation dip and my temps are always erratic, so...
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? Not religious at all. I grew up Catholic and married into a religious family but I've never understood it all. I consider myself quite spiritual and practice yoga and meditation. I also heavily believe in science. I feel lucky to be part of 2 families that accept me as is and don't judge me for being/not being religious.
I can get Amazon UK where I am (just with extra shipping fees)...I'll check on the Mabis! Thanks
ETA: I found this, but it says to within 1/10th of a degree, which would be the first decimal place...but the picture shows two decimal places and @MelissaM090 said to the nearest hundredth....not sure if that's what I want or not :S
BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016
Re-started TTC Aug 2016
Started IF testing Nov 2016
Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017
BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
CD/DPO: 24/3
Timing: -4, -2, -1, O
Testing: Not yet!
R/R/CS: YAYYYYY I belong here now! After 4 grueling months of DH having performance anxiety, it is sooo soooo wonderful to finally be here. We are finally on the right track and I am thrilled.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I'm not religious or science-y. I just believe that there's a God out there and I pray every night. DH would like to start going to church, and I am not opposed to that.
Baby Boy #1 born 1/9/17
Baby Boy #2 EDD 11/4/18
@businesswife I hate when FF does that! How rude. Good thing you still have timing in there.
@Buthayna I have noticed EWCM at different times, more during the FW, but it is definitely possible. As far as the thermometer I believe it does have to say BBT. Is Amazon an option? I got mine for $8.
@MelissaM090 lol The universe is not helping you out with the crazies, huh? FX this all leads to a positive ending. I think Google is getting a good workout this weekend.
@houseofsetters Yay for CH! Happy to see you over here. Your timing is excellent!
@canavara Ugh, I hate when FF feeds into the crazy! That is one of the reasons why I didn't get the VIP service again, it was just a little too much extra stuff. GL!
@kenya715 So glad to hear you are feeling in better spirits today. Sending positive thoughts your way!
@gonetothesea Congrats on CH! That is so exciting. That is great to hear that things are looking up! Your timing is awesome!
Month/Cycle: 9/9
CD/DPO: 25/8
Timing: Who knows!
Testing: Nope.
R/R/CS: So my PMS is in full force this weekend, which means I have been getting the most out of Google and that is the only reason why I still have a glimmer of hope. Reality is, looks like I O'd earlier than I thought and we have no idea what our timing is now. Kinda just waiting for my period now. I also feel like I am coming down with the dreaded cold, so I guess I will be drowning my sorrows with tea today. Yesterday, I cried at a huggies commercial, like full on, ugly cried. So now I am all like
GTKY: Definitely a healthy mix of both. I am more spiritual than religious, but DH and I do try to make it to church when we can. I am all for mixing in science when it comes to our health.
10/2/10
Me:29 H: 31
TTC#1: Aug 2015
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5e3072
For anyone reading who temps vaginally: this might be an awkward question, but do you just stick it in? does it matter how far it goes as long as the tip is in there? It seems to be the popular opinion that vaginal temping is more precise than oral temping, so I'm going to just start with that, I think. I feel like I've wasted enough time not temping that I don't want to risk wasting cycles/data on unreadable charts IF I'm one of the people who have difficult-to-read charts from oral temping like some (not all) people end up having.
BFP #1 June 2016: EDD 16 March 2017, MC July 2016
Re-started TTC Aug 2016
Started IF testing Nov 2016
Spontaneous BFP #2 January 2017: Rainbow Baby Boy September 2017
BFP #3 November 2018: Baby #2 expected August 2019
Baby Boy #1 born 1/9/17
Baby Boy #2 EDD 11/4/18
CD/DPO: 27/9
Timing: 0
Testing: no plans
R/R/CS: last night we had some people over for a BBQ and it was really nice. My pup Posey made a new friend... Buster! (Buster Posey is a catcher for the Giants).
Posey (left) was just excited to have a dog to play with that was more his size. He's usually around big dogs all the time.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
I'd say a little of both. Grew up in a very religious family so I still have that background but I have a more black and white type mind frame that tends to lean on the sciences more.
Married 07.21.07
DS#1 01.23.09
DS#2 08.01.11
TTC#3 08.31.15
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 05.16.17
Hysteroscopy 10.04.17 10.05.17
Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy/HSG 01.10.19
Left tube removed
dx: Endometriosis, Adenomyosis
BC: February-October 2019
TTA: November-December 2019
NTNP: January 2020!
CD/DPO: 19/6
Timing: pretty good
Testing: not yet!
R/R/CS: My temp went way up today. FF moved my CH to CD15 on Advanced method, but I still think I o'd on CD13. On FAM method, it has CH on CD13. Either way, I have pretty good timing. I feel warm this morning and my throat is a little sore, hopefully I'm not getting sick.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I would say I'm a little bit of both. I'm in the medical field so I think science. But I believe in God and spirituality.
CD/DPO: 41/5
Timing: -4,-2,0,+1
Testing: I have a fresh pack of wondfos so while I'm mentally telling myself 10 or 11 DPO, I might start sooner than that.
R/R/CS: I have started stalking the "charts like mine" feature and have been seeing if the "pregnant" versus "ovulation" percentage goes up. I call BS on many of those charts though. Some are literally the same temp for days and days and it's a pregnancy chart.
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both? I was born and raised Catholic so I believe in God and angels and stuff like that. But I also know science is real and can't stand anti-vaxxers and people who spout pseudoscience.
DS: 5 years old
TTC #2 since August 2015
July 2016: Testing cycle with 100 mg Clomid = BFN
August 2016: 50 mg Clomid + IUI = BFN
October 2016: IVF#1 - 13 retrieved / 12 mature / 9 fertilized / 2 blasts
November 2016: FET#1 = chemical
January 2017: FET#2 = chemical
March 2017: IVF#2 - 18 retrieved / 18 mature / 16 fertilized / 5 blasts
May 24, 2017: FET#4 - BFP! - Beta #1 151 - Beta #2 503 - Due date 2/9/18
@NurseMarie9 I guess that is FF's mo today! Only opk method leaves mine at cd13 and i think maybe fam has me at cd14. :p glad you feel confident in your original O-date!
@linzrunz They are so darn cute!!!
@Marley629 Yep! 7dpo sounds like the bsc is right on schedule!
@houseofsetters @gonetothesea Yay! Glad to see you here! And with great timing, no less! ;)
@MelissaM090 sounds like you have a fun day in store! It's been so long since I've been to a live game. Did your team win?
@Kenya715 glad you're feeling better! As far as implantation dips, FWIW, I try not to pay attention. First time I saw one I looked up a video online, where she shows chart with this beautiful ID, then she's all, "unfortunately, this woman did not get pregnant this cycle, " so that pretty much burst that whole bubble for me right there. I have had several cycles with implantation dips, or triphasic, and still not pregnant,so for me, I totally Do. Not. Care. If I see an ID on my chart. Not worth the stress ;) FX for you this cycle!!
@Buthayna glad you found your bbt and have it in the way!
@Megzb510 great timing! I now what you mean about the charts like mine. I try not to get too sucked down that rabbit hole if i can help it! Lol
Eta mobile ap legit ate 3/4 of my comment. I was even copying and pasting it into text messages when I would reload TB, cos it kept saying i didn't have permission, but i guess I wrongly assumed when it was looking like it was about to post, it would include the whole thing. I tried to fill back in the ones that got cut, but I'm sorry if missed anyone in the commotion!! Also, So. Many. Auto-correct fails.
@gonetothesea yay for CH! Your timing looks great!
@PepperAT Sorry you're feeling down. I feel like I'm coming down with something also. I'll probably need some tea later today.
@Megzb510 I also have wondfos on hand this time, I want to wait until CD11 but I'm sure I'll start sooner lol
@BusinessWife dang FF can't make up its mind! At least it looks like with your timing, you're still in the game!
@Khbear sorry about the temp drop Enjoy your gardening today! I can't wait to get my container pots going.
10/2/10
Me:29 H: 31
TTC#1: Aug 2015
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5e3072
Together since: 2009
Married: May 2015
TTC Since: Jan 2016
CD/DPO: 78/5
Timing: -3, -1
Testing: If FF keeps my CH, probably Friday
R/R/CS: Well hello! I'm optimistically going to jump in over here, though i'm about 80% confident FF will take away my crosshairs any day now (already did it once, early last week).. This has been my first cycle off BCP (which I was on for ~12 years) and boy has it been a doozy..
Any professional opinions on whether i've actually ovulated this time around? Those two high temps I woke up feeling pretty warm, but the last two days have felt normal - even though they're lower they're still some of my highest temps. I guess the only real answer is 'wait another 9 days and see' but speculation seems so much more fun..
Chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6358d1
[as a side note, I don't actually ever sleep for 3 full hours in a row, so that's probably not helping here..]
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
I'm agnostic and very much science-y.
@khbear Crazy that we both had 9DPO temp dips today! No worries, I did enough Googling for both of us.
DH: 33
Married: October 2015
TTC #1: October 2015
EDD #1: June/July 2017
Month/Cycle: 3/3
CD/DPO: 22 (todayyyyyy)
Timing: sucky. I o'd later than I typically do and DH went out of town so blah.
Testing: not yet haha but tomorrow will start the SS and countdown to obsessive wasting of pee sticks I'm sure.
R/R/CS: ...nothing I guess!
GTKY: Do you consider yourself the spiritual/religious type? Or straight up empirical science-y type? Or both?
Definitely religious. I grew up in a "spiritual but we don't do organized religion" home but found and joined a church when I was in high school. Still there today.