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Extremely low betas, slight rise, but HB at 6 weeks? Please help

So I said goodbye to you ladies last week after my u/s showed a 5+1 fetus when I should at least be 5+4 and my betas were 2469 on Thursday and the then 2770 on Saturday. My Dr told me to expect to miscarry.

Today, I got an u/s so that I could get medication and there is a 6 week fetus (should be 6+2, but oh well) and a HB of 123.

WHAT IS GOING ON?!? H and I are stunned. We already told our families that we were miscarrying. I feel like we are getting our hopes up because there is no possible way that such low HCG can mean a healthy pregnancy. I've had no symptoms at all, outside being a bit more tired the last 2 days.  Any similar stories good or bad? I feel like we need to be realistic here.
Age 39, H 38

Married 8/15

Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
DD was born on June 26, 2017
Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
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Re: Extremely low betas, slight rise, but HB at 6 weeks? Please help

  • Did you have another beta drawn? What were the numbers?

    Sorry to say, but my last pregnancy also had a growing fetus, slow growth but still growth, and low rising betas. Sadly, our baby boy had a rare chromosomal disorder. 

    However. In your situation, only time will tell. Keep us updated!
    DS Maxwell - 08/25/2009
    Wedded Bliss - 05/19/15
    MC - 05/15/15 & 7/29/15 & 11/25/15 (You were wished for, hoped for and loved)
    BFP#4; EDD 10/21/16 - Praying for a miracle.

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  • I'm so sorry you're dealing with this.  I feel really bad being Debbie Downer, but let me tell you what happened to me last time because your story sounds like mine.

    Being a crazy first time pregnant person,  I was freaking out about my no symptoms, and I asked my doctor around 6 weeks-ish to test my betas a second time even though they don't usually do that.  They had gone from 2300 to 2600 in a week.  My doctor told me to expect to miscarry, and they sent me for another blood draw two days later.  In two days, my betas had gone up to 3300ish.  Now my doctor was very confused and brought me in for an ultrasound.  At the ultrasound, they saw a 6+2 embryo with a heartbeat of 120.

    Unfortunately, I started spotting two days after the ultrasound and had miscarried completely less than a week later.  

    I truly, truly hope it turns out better for you.  I know you haven't had an easy road, and I can completely empathize and sympathize with the emotional roller coaster you are going through right now!  Not knowing what is going on is exhausting and devastating.  I hope you get your answers soon, and I am here if you need someone to vent to.
    TTC #1 since June 2015
    BFP #1 Nov 2015 ended in MC Dec 26 2015
    BFP #2 Feb 2016, EDD Nov 8 2016




    ALC08
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  • Thanks you @BooksForMe23 and @WinchestertoPittsburgh I definitely need to hear this reality. No blood draw scheduled at this point, waiting for the Dr to get the radiology report.
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
  • I'm going to take the cheer squad route and acknowledged that it looks like a pretty good growth spurt to have caught up a day!!! FX. And sorry you're in limbo again. 
    chloe97
  • Well the on call Dr just called me screaming with excitement after seeing the u/s report. She said she doesn't believe in HCG levels after seeing my tests because a heartbeat should not be possible with my numbers. Praying that this little one sticks. Dr Google has told me all kinds of messed up things about chromosomal issues, etc. I'm still hoping for my vanishing twin theory. 
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
    Kbalas1018
  • Today you're pregnant! Congratulations. :smile: 
    chloe97
  • Oh wow @chloe97 what a rollercoaster!  Sending you all sorts of positive thoughts.  
    chloe97
  • ALC08ALC08 member
    I agree with @CarrieandRoy , i had a similar experience with my second loss. I had betas checked half a dozen times and they rose but very slowly. When i went in for the 6 wk u/s the baby was measuring on track or very close and we saw a hb. My Dr. was cautious and said it honestly could go either way. He said he would need another scan to have a definitive answer. I went back a week later and got the answer I had dreaded. I personally can't put any stock in just "seeing" a hb so early on, we saw it w both losses. That is just my experience. I would be cautious but I hope your situation turns out differently than mine did!! I will be thinking good thoughts for you and waiting to hear your news. 
    chloe97WinchestertoPittsburghcarrieandrpurplefan1
  • Oh my goodness! I hope it all turns out! Unfortunately with mine, I still saw a heartbeat despite low numbers (my doctor was completely confused), but I have my fingers crossed for you!
    TTC #1 since June 2015
    BFP #1 Nov 2015 ended in MC Dec 26 2015
    BFP #2 Feb 2016, EDD Nov 8 2016




  • I hope you're doing well. When is your next appt? Are they going to do any further hcg tests?
    TTC#1 since Jan 2015
    BFP 2/19/15  •  MMC found at 9 wks  •  D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
    BFP 8/29/15  •  CP (age 37)
    BFP 11/18/15  •  DD born at 41 weeks <3(age 37/38)

    TTC#2 since May 2017
    BFP 10/18/17  •  MMC found at 8 wks  •  Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)

    BFP 2/16/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 4/13/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 5/07/18  •  MMC found at 10.5 wks  •  D&E at 11.5 wks 
    •  Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
    9/5/18 Diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve (4-5 follicles, one ovary had none and was very atrophied)

    RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.

    BFP 9/24/18  • 
    CP (age 40)
    BFP 5/11/19  •  Fraternal twins  •  MMC found at 10w5d (Baby A 6w, Baby B 10w)  •  Misoprostal at 11 weeks (age 41)













  • chloe97chloe97 member
    edited April 2016
    So far, so good. Started progesterone. I got the u/s report today. Baby measures 6+2 which would make his/her conception within 48 hrs of my positive OPK. Heart rate of 123 and no other findings besides my fibroids which I knew were there.

    My next appt is Monday. I had a MMC last time, so I guess it's not unlikely that I would have no spotting or bleeding with a MC. Assuming the heart is still beating, I'm going to push for weekly u/s. They won't test my HCG again. No progress on pregnancy symptoms either. I'm just having a hard time believing this could be a viable pregnancy, but both signs point in opposite directions!
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
  • The low hcg and lack of pg symptoms would go hand in hand. The big question is whether the low hcg rise is a problem. So puzzling. I'm definitely rooting for you. Fingers crossed!
    TTC#1 since Jan 2015
    BFP 2/19/15  •  MMC found at 9 wks  •  D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
    BFP 8/29/15  •  CP (age 37)
    BFP 11/18/15  •  DD born at 41 weeks <3(age 37/38)

    TTC#2 since May 2017
    BFP 10/18/17  •  MMC found at 8 wks  •  Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)

    BFP 2/16/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 4/13/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 5/07/18  •  MMC found at 10.5 wks  •  D&E at 11.5 wks 
    •  Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
    9/5/18 Diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve (4-5 follicles, one ovary had none and was very atrophied)

    RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.

    BFP 9/24/18  • 
    CP (age 40)
    BFP 5/11/19  •  Fraternal twins  •  MMC found at 10w5d (Baby A 6w, Baby B 10w)  •  Misoprostal at 11 weeks (age 41)













    ALC08
  • Fingers crossed!!!!
    TTC #1 since June 2015
    BFP #1 Nov 2015 ended in MC Dec 26 2015
    BFP #2 Feb 2016, EDD Nov 8 2016




  • Lurking from the loss board to see if you had posted an update @chloe97 - everything crossed for you that you continue to get good news!! 
    chloe97
  • I also had slow rising hcg levels. I had 2 losses but found out later they were due to mthfr. My current pregnancy was also slow rising. I asked to stop having blood draws after the 3rd time since I thought it would be over anyway. I am currently 28w4d so you just never know. Since I am high risk I did see my ob every week for u/s's till I was 14 weeks. I still get an u/s every appt. it really helps calm my nerves. 
    chloe97carrieandrALC08
  • ***Lurking to check on @chloe97!*** Please update us and I'm still rooting for you!
    chloe97
  • chloe97chloe97 member
    edited April 2016
    Thank you @lilp2015. That is helpful! Can I ask how low your betas were?? Did you have any early pregnancy symptoms??

    Thanks @Wishilivedinflorida and @1inthehopper. We get another u/s tonight so hopefully I will have a good update!
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
    ALC08roxgibbons
  • Wow, that is wonderful news! I'm so happy to hear it! Fingers still crossed for you, but this sounds promising.
    TTC#1 since Jan 2015
    BFP 2/19/15  •  MMC found at 9 wks  •  D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
    BFP 8/29/15  •  CP (age 37)
    BFP 11/18/15  •  DD born at 41 weeks <3(age 37/38)

    TTC#2 since May 2017
    BFP 10/18/17  •  MMC found at 8 wks  •  Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)

    BFP 2/16/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 4/13/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 5/07/18  •  MMC found at 10.5 wks  •  D&E at 11.5 wks 
    •  Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
    9/5/18 Diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve (4-5 follicles, one ovary had none and was very atrophied)

    RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.

    BFP 9/24/18  • 
    CP (age 40)
    BFP 5/11/19  •  Fraternal twins  •  MMC found at 10w5d (Baby A 6w, Baby B 10w)  •  Misoprostal at 11 weeks (age 41)













    chloe97ALC08Plleriti1
  • @chloe97 - I'm so glad to hear your update.  My fingers are crossed for you!
    chloe97
  • ALC08ALC08 member
    Oh so happy to hear this @chloe97! It's sounding more positive!! Hope you have a good two weeks and another good report!
    chloe97
  • Great news @chloe97 so happy for you!
    ******TW******Siggy warning
    BFP1 04/24/2015 EDD Dec 2015 MMC 10W5d;
    BFP 2 09/25/2015 EDD June 2016 MMC 9wks; 
    BFP 3 03/22/2016 EDD Dec 6th 2016 

       Baby Birthday Ticker Ticker


    chloe97
  • That's great news! ... My levels were low and slow rising. I believe this pregnancy started at 77 and the highest it went (6 days later) was 200 and something. My ob said she doesn't really like to go by the numbers beacause not everyone is "text book" 
    chloe97carrieandr
  • I hit send to fast haha... I believe symptoms started around 6-7 weeks. They weren't that bad in the beginning. I would say 9-14 weeks was the worse for me. 
    chloe97
  • chloe97chloe97 member
    edited April 2016
    @lilp2015 I swear that my symptoms started this morning. Woke up starving and have been feel more intense stomach unrest. It could just be the progesterone though. Are you considered high risk because of Mthfr?

    Etf words 
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
  • @chloe97 I'm so happy for your good news, and I hope everything is uphill from here on out.
    chloe97
  • I am considered high high risk. Mthfr GD short cervix. I'm on strict bedrest. Have been since 25 weeks. I was in the hospital for the steroid shots. I also took progesterone till 14 weeks so I wasn't sure which was causing the symptoms. I'm on progesterone again but this time it's vaginaly. 
  • I'm lurking on this post. What is MTHFR?
    ***Loss mentioned***
    Me: 38  DH: 38
    Married: 12-15-2012
    TTC: January 2014
    IUI 12-11-2014 ... BFP: 12-24-2014 MMC: 2-17-2015 @ 12 weeks
    IUI 6-1-2015 ... BFP: 6-16-2015 MC: 7-19-2015 @ 9 weeks 2 days
    IUI 3-4-2016 ... BFP: 3-20-2016 MC: 5-2-2016 @ 10 weeks 3 days
  • For what it is worth my 3rd pregnancy (first successful) had the lowest, and slowest rising betas. They slowed even further after they hit 1000, I was on progesterone for the first tri and had my son in Nov.
    carrieandrchloe97
  • @GoogleMD that is so great to hear! Did you have any other complications during your pregnancy?
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
  • chloe97 said:
    @GoogleMD that is so great to hear! Did you have any other complications during your pregnancy?
    I was induced at 38weeks because i developed high blood pressure the last month. The indcuction went very smooth though, 9 hrs of labor and he was here. He was very alert and started BF shortly after birth, I can't complain a

    Good luck 
  • @chloe97 - I remember you from TTCAL. We were cycle twins. :) I'm just getting back on here after a long hiatus, and read through that emotional roller coaster ride. So sorry you are going through this stress, but so happy things are progressing on track now! I have my fingers and toes crossed for you! 
  • Thanks @strickland8052! I hope things are going well for you. 

    Im hanging in there. I have an ultrasound Monday at 9 weeks and I'm very nervous. I had an increase in symptoms week 6-8, but I feel like my main symptoms- food aversions, and a slight gaggy feeling from time to time have gone away. Now I just have fatigue and sore boobs which could be related to the progesterone supplements I'm on.I keep reminding myself that I had no symptoms week 5 and had a great heartbeat. 
    Age 39, H 38

    Married 8/15

    Pregnancy #1, MMC, D&C November/December 2015
    Pregnancy #2, Dx with Triploidy at 12 weeks, MMC, D&C May 2016
    Pregnancy #3 BFP 10/20/2016- EDD 7/01/2017
    DD was born on June 26, 2017
    Pregnancy #4 CP 4/2018
    Pregnancy #5 BFP 9/13/2018, EDD= 5/27/2019
    carrieandr
  • Fingers crossed for you, @chloe97
    TTC#1 since Jan 2015
    BFP 2/19/15  •  MMC found at 9 wks  •  D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
    BFP 8/29/15  •  CP (age 37)
    BFP 11/18/15  •  DD born at 41 weeks <3(age 37/38)

    TTC#2 since May 2017
    BFP 10/18/17  •  MMC found at 8 wks  •  Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)

    BFP 2/16/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 4/13/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 5/07/18  •  MMC found at 10.5 wks  •  D&E at 11.5 wks 
    •  Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
    9/5/18 Diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve (4-5 follicles, one ovary had none and was very atrophied)

    RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.

    BFP 9/24/18  • 
    CP (age 40)
    BFP 5/11/19  •  Fraternal twins  •  MMC found at 10w5d (Baby A 6w, Baby B 10w)  •  Misoprostal at 11 weeks (age 41)













  • That's a great update!! So happy for you!!
  • Fantastic!  
  • That's wonderful news! I'm so glad to hear it!
    TTC#1 since Jan 2015
    BFP 2/19/15  •  MMC found at 9 wks  •  D&E at 11 wks (age 36)
    BFP 8/29/15  •  CP (age 37)
    BFP 11/18/15  •  DD born at 41 weeks <3(age 37/38)

    TTC#2 since May 2017
    BFP 10/18/17  •  MMC found at 8 wks  •  Misoprostal at 10.5 wks (age 39)

    BFP 2/16/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 4/13/18
      •  CP (age 39)
    BFP 5/07/18  •  MMC found at 10.5 wks  •  D&E at 11.5 wks 
    •  Testing showed it was a girl with Trisomy 22. (age 39/40)
    9/5/18 Diagnosed with diminished ovarian reserve (4-5 follicles, one ovary had none and was very atrophied)

    RE says the low egg count is likely causing my recurrent pregnancy loss. Less eggs results in more aneuploidy.

    BFP 9/24/18  • 
    CP (age 40)
    BFP 5/11/19  •  Fraternal twins  •  MMC found at 10w5d (Baby A 6w, Baby B 10w)  •  Misoprostal at 11 weeks (age 41)













    chloe97
  • That's awesome! Our heartbeat was around the same at 9 weeks. ((Happy dance)) praying for continuing good news for you! 
    Me:23 DH:32
    Married 5/14/13
    TTC #1 since 5/14
    TTC #1 w/ treatments since 5/15
    BFN 7/15
    BFP 8/15-MMC 9/15

    BFP 10/15- Diagnosed BO 12/15
    BFP 2/16-EDD 11/18/2016 


    chloe97
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