Losing hope

Oneday2525

hello all,

Today i am 10dp5dt and took a frer this morning and it was negative. It was also negative at 9dp5dt and negative at 7dp5dt. I should know better than to test before my beta but i cant help it. I just dont understand why this is not working for me. Im so young (26 years old) and we are going through this due to morphology issues. I cant help but to think that there is something seriously wrong with me. Im devastated. My beta is on monday but i already know what the results will be. We still have 2 frozen embies left but the doctor insists on only putting back 1 at a time. Im going to see if he agrees to put 2 this time. It all sucks. I know i should probably keep hope until monday but im just being realistic. What are the chances that my beta will be positive after testing negative this whole time? This was my try at an FET after failing an icsi fresh cycle. How long will i have to wait until jumping into my next fet after finding out that this one failed? Thank you all for your support.

2legbaby

I hope that your test Monday is different....keep hope that even if this time there is no success your next time may be the one! I haven't gone through IVF so can't help with your questions on trying again....good luck and fertile thoughts your way!

przemosbabe

* PAIF*


It should be positive by now, but it's not unheard of for a test to be negative at home and then a blood test positive. Don't lose hope. Many women need more than one cycle of IVF to get pregnant unfortunately. But you're young and you have that on your side!

Oneday2525

Thanks ladies! We will see what the results say tomorrow.

Oneday2525

Welp, results are in...BFN....(sigh)

Whatever...this all sucks. I dont understand why they arent sticking. I have my WTF with my Doc next week. We will see what he says. I really want to put back the 2 frozen embies I have left. Apparently only putting back one is not working. I dont even care if I end up with twins. I just dont want another failed FET. For women in their 20s, how many embies did you put back? And how many stuck? Were they FETs or Fresh? 

Thanks for all your support

przemosbabe

How many transfers have you done?

Oneday2525

I did a fresh cycle of one embryo transfer and an FET with one embryo.

mrscookiequeen

I transferred 2 on my fresh cycle, 1 on my first fet and 1 on my second fet. The second fet stuck. Transferring 2 won't increase your chances of it working.. it'll only increase your chances of multiples. Looking back i wish i had only transferred 1 at first so i would have 1 remaining for later on. I know it is a hard journey... but the only thing you can do is keep going. I did all my transfers back to back. So my last failed fet was late nov. And i started meds again in dec. Transferred in january. I read that your chances increase per transfer.. so you have better chances of the next time working than the last. Hope any of this helps.

sbost0118

I've done lots of IVF with about a 1/3 success rate per embryo transferred. I'll try to break it down. I'm only listing cycles that made it to transfer.

2006 2 Fresh, 1 took, but later m/c
2007 2 Frozen, twins born 2008
2010, 2 Frozen, BFN
2011, 2 Fresh, baby born 2012
2013, 1 Frozen, Chemical pregnancy
2015, 1 PGD, BFP, fingers crossed

Oneday2525

Thanks all. My WTF appointment is tomorrow. I want to ask all of the right questions, Mainly if there is any way I can get tested for implantation failure (whether that means immune system testing or embryo testing). We will see what he says tomorrow. I just think this is so weird. How can it not be working? There has to be something wrong with me :-( 

saysjess

Unfortunately even a perfectly healthy woman only has a 20% chance of conceiving. You have many things on your side (your age, that so far only morphology is the issue). Your best bet is to see what your RE says at your WTF. I'm a little jealous you can even get as far as you have! It could be a lot worse (trust me!) but I have my fingers crossed for you and a better plan of action!

przemosbabe

PAIF


I think getting tested for implantation failure is a good idea. It's a real diagnosis and I have it, and I did not have success with my IVF cycles until I followed the reproductive immunologists protocol to a t. Make sure you get this testing done at one of the very few labs that can do this testing correctly.

I had to do 3 transfers before I got pregnant. The first time was a fresh transfer of one 4AB blast and it did not implant. Second transfer was fresh and I decided to mix it up and do a 3 day embryo transfer, I transferred 3 and they did not implant. Last transfer was of 3 poor quality frozen blastocysts and I am currently pregnant with a healthy baby girl according to my prenatal screening test called verifi by progenity. So sometimes it takes a few tries.

I think you should get checked for endometriosis because if you do have it this could be causing your implantation failure. Keep is updated xxx

Oneday2525

Hey guys. Well according to my RE, he has ran all of the possible tests on me. He says its the only way they can keep their stats so good. He stated my insurance does not cover me for the pgd testing because i do not qualify as i do not have the condition. The plan now is to transfer my last 2 frozen embryos (although he was highly against that because it increases my chances for twins, but i went against his recommendation for this cycle). I rather end up with twins and increase my chances of at least one implanting than to have it fail again. He also stated he will increase my progesterone dose because i was a little low on transfer date. And that my bladder was empty when it should have been completely full so it was hard for the doc to see during the transfer. And i have a retroverted uterus. I dont know if anything of these things affectted implantation. I just dont understand what is wrong with me and why they arent implanting. Hopefully the third try is the charm. We will see. Thank you all for being so supportive.

jnissa

I have to tell you that it's in your best interest if this is accurate to consider looking for other doctors. There are a number of red flags here, but the biggest one is that nobody should be performing a transfer on you without a full bladder, period. They should be giving you water and having you sit in the procedure area waiting until your bladder is full. Without a full bladder, it's almost impossible to see (even with a great uterus) if there are things like fluid in the uterus that could prevent implantation from happening. 

Additionally, no doctor should be telling you that a decision was made to keep their stats good. That certainly does happen, but if they're being brazen about it I would seriously question their committment to you. 

bluebird077

I can totally understand with losing hope.  We have been trying for three years and still not pregnant.  I keep having friends around me get pregnant and I am happy for them...but it is hard to be joyful when we want it so badly.  I am really trying hard not to blame myself and be patient.  Hang in there everyone.

Oneday2525

Jnissa - Well i dont think he meant it in that way. I think he just meant that they are very good at what they do and run all the possible tests on me before starting cycle to know exactly what needs to be done. I do agree that they should have waited until my bladder was completely full. So next time ill make sure of that. Being that i have 2 frozen embryos left, i will just finish my cycle with this doctor. And if it doesnt work once again, i will go to a different one for my second fresh cycle. I do believe i need a second opinion if this doesnt work on my third try. Thank you so much for your input

Blue bird - hang in there. Its tough.

westiemom22

I am in a similar boat to you. We did IVF because of my husband has morphology issues. We have done two FET cycles and got pregnant both times but had miscarriages. This last round, we used heparin and the pregnancy lasted much longer (we heard heartbeats). We also did PGS testing and paid out of pocket. However, now we are looking at issues I may have since we haven't been successful carrying a pregnancy. I am 28 and we put back two embryos both times. The first round, we lost them before ultrasound so I don't know how many took but am guessing both because I had a positive HPT on day 4 after a 5 day transfer. Second round, both took and we lost them at 9 weeks.

I know how hard it is to go through this without success and answers. Just remember, it's not your fault. I initially felt so guilty but I know there is nothing I could have done differently. I have been reading stories about how most women require multiple attempts so hopefully third time is a charm for us both!

westiemom22

@przemosbabe where did you go to see a reproductive immunologist? I haven't been able to find one in Houston.

Oneday2525

@westiemom22 im so sorry you are going through this. It must be so tough to hear heartbeats and have positive pregnancy test and then not work out. You get All excited And then nothing happens. I wish you the best of luck.

Oneday2525

Hello All,

Has anyone had success after increasing their progesterone dosage? I cant stop thinking about my next cycle and im getting more and more nervous. I am just wondering if the increase in dosage will do the trick for me? Or maybe the fact that I am going to transfer 2 this time. Has anyone had a BFN and then had a BFP after increasing their Progesterone dosage? 

Thanks

westiemom22

@Oneday2525 I did progesterone in oil shots and they kept my progesterone level at 55. My RE said he likes levels above 20 so they worked well for me. I know some people dislike the shot but I didn't have any major issues with them.

Oneday2525

Hey Guys, 

Just a little update. So today I am 9dp5dt for my last FET which I transferred 2 embryos. I took an FRER this morning and it came out positive. I am so excited because I never thought I would see those 2 lines. I cant't help but to think about all of the possibilities. Like what if its just chemical pregnancy? or will my numbers be high enough and duplicate like they are supposed to? I dont want to get my hopes up. My beta is on Friday and I cant wait to see what the numbers are looking like. I want this to work so bad. After all of the shots and estrace inserting and all of the irritation and suffering, I guess it was all worth it. I was a little worried in the beginning because my lining would not improve more than a 6.1mm. But my RE was confident that it was ok although they prefer it to be over 8mm. I think I made a good decision by going against my doctors advice and transferring 2 instead of 1. I guess the 3rd time was the charm for me. Anyways, I will keep you guys updated after my Beta. Just wanted to give some hope to those struggling right now. Keep trying, it will happen. 

cwillis88

@Oneday2525 keep us updated! I'm 26 and put in two against my RE's advice. We just don't have the money to do this multiple times! Praying that this time works for you! Also, was wondering how long they made you lay still after your transfer?

Oneday2525

Thanks @Cwynn88 I think i laid there for like 5 min. Then slowly got up and walked out. I remember i had to really poop afterwards and was kind of pushing so that scared me. Lol. But they just told me to take my time getting up and do it slowly when im ready.

przemosbabe

@Oneday2525 OMG!!!!!! I am SO happy for you lady! They are finding that frozen embryo transfers can be more successful! To answer your question, my reproductive immunologist is in Chicago at rosalind franklin university. Her name is JoAnne Kwak Kim. She helps with infertility and recurrent miscarriage. But you don't need her now come back and let us know how many you got baking in there. Yay for good news, made me smile

Oneday2525

Hello All,

So I got my beta results today and it was at 223! Im so excited, i go back Monday to see if the number is rising as it should be. I really hope this turns out successful. I will keep you guys updated! 

MKLEWIS2010

Congrats @oneday2525 I hope it all works out !

Oneday2525

Thank you @MKLEWIS2010 I see that your first try was a negative. Just wanted to say to keep your head up and keep trying. They say that on average it takes 3 attempts for IVF to be successful. Unless you are one of the lucky ones and it happens on the first try. It took me 3 times. It is not easy to keep getting disappointed. But it will happen when the time is right and when it is meant to happen. So try not to stress or beat yourself up alot. Just get back on the horse as soon as you can. I hope you have some frozen embies stored away. I wish you the best of luck.

ktpryor0110

Sending sticky thoughts your way! Please keep us posted

MKLEWIS2010

Thank you @oneday2525. I have 3 frozen so hopefully it works the next time! I am back and forth on went to start trying again my hubby thinks it would help if I started right away but he said its up to me. Right now I'm just waiting for AF and then I'll see how I feel. Thanks for the encouraging words. Good luck on a safe and healthy pregnancy

Oneday2525

Hey there guys,

So just a little update. So at about 5.5 weeks along i began spotting a little bit (brownish red discharge) and it only lasted one day (actually one night because i did not keep spotting for the remainder of the day). Anyways they had me go in for an early ultrasound and since then i have been freaking out. The ultrasound technician stated that she could not see a normal gestational sac but that she did see some small fluid collection that may represent an irregular sac. Im so confused. Ive been researching and researching but it can go either way. When i spoke to the doctor right after my ultrasound, he stated that i may still be too early and to come back in 2 weeks for another ultrasound. That appointment is for this friday and im a nervous wreck. They also took my blood hcg levels and they seem to be more than doubling so i guess that is a good sign. Ive also been feeling very pregnant (nauseous, sore boobs, some light cramping on both sides, etc). However i am not sure if this is all in my head or the progesterone side effects. I know i have no other option but to wait. But i just wanted to know if any of you have gone through something similar and ending up having a successful pregnancy?

Thanks

Oneday2525

Hello. So i guess it all ends here. My ultrasound confirmed that i have an empty sac and the doc believes it is an abnormal pregnancy. They never saw the embryo or yolk sac. I just feel so defeated right now. I was so excited after getting my BFP and now nothing. I have no more frozen embryos so I have to start the process all over again with the fresh cycle. This is all so very hard and i dont know what else I can do. I know all of this is out of my control but it sucks. I have a last ultrasound on friday just to confirm what he docs are thinking. (Sigh) really losing hope. How long would i have to wait after a miscarriage to start a fresh cycle?

MKLEWIS2010

I am so sorry for your loss. I am truly at a loss for words. I don't really have any information as to how long you can wait for a fresh cycle. I do wish you strength in dealing with this process. I can't imagine how it feels to come so close and have this happen. I am sending virtual hugs to you.

Oneday2525

Thank you @MKLEWIS2010 it really is hard to deal with. I just feel like its never going to happen for me :-(