TTC After a Loss

CD3 lab results...a small gif story

Ladies I'm just kinda annoyed/super sad. I won't lie. I got my lab results back and I just don't understand...
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So here's the information I have for you:

March 2014 (CD3)
• AMH --.58
• FSH -- 7.5
• E2 -- 35.5

November 2014 (CD3)
• AMH --.58
• FSH -- 7.5
• E2 -- 35.5

January 2015 (CD2)
•FSH-- 9.2 (cue grumpy cries)
• E2-- 17 (cue wtaf cries)



I'm  SO pissed that my FSH has gone up, and I'm confused that my E2 dropped so far. I don't know really what the E2 "means" in TTC terms, but I sure as shit know what the FSH means....and that number is on it's way to the bad lands.  
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I am none too happy. Considering Dr. Google led me to a website that said any FSH over 10 has "significantly decreased live birth rates", I ended up ugly crying for a good 10 minutes. 
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I guess I just wanted to know if anyone has any advice/opinions/thoughts on the rising FSH/dropping e2 levels along with my AMH. Should I request an AMH redraw? 


 I don't want to google anymore. It makes me super stressed out, and very sad. Give it to me straight, I can handle it. 
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(Also, humor is my way of coping with shitty shit. I hope you enjoy the gifs.)



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Hubs & I -29 • Met 5/18/04 • Married 5/8/10
BFP #1 DS 2/7/11 (Born @ 34 wks via ECS due to Pre-e) TTC #2 since Aug '13
DX Low AMH (.58) March '14 • FSH-7.5 • E2-35.5 (Nov '14)
SA- Great numbers • SIS- Clear (Nov '14)
 Cycle 1- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-BFP • EDD 1/12/15 
Ectopic @ 5w6d • Methotrexate Shot 5/18/14
Cycle 2,3,4- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-- BFN
Cycle 5- Letrozole CD3-7 & Trigger BFFN
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Re: CD3 lab results...a small gif story

  • Ugh, I have no knowledge or experience with this that could be helpful, I just wanted to offer HUGS. Sorry you're dealing with shitty shit. :(
    started TTC 3/2014 & got hitched 4/2014
    husbter's a 38 y/o smarty pants phD/me? a 27 y/o cat lady extraordinaire
    & we're missing our darling barnacles:
    May 2014 loss @ 9 weeks, MMC, no hb found at first appointment | edd dec 4 2014
    October 2014 loss @ 12 weeks, MMC measuring 10w after hearing hb @ 8w | edd apr 15, 2015
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  • @nobb14 :-*
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    Hubs & I -29 • Met 5/18/04 • Married 5/8/10
    BFP #1 DS 2/7/11 (Born @ 34 wks via ECS due to Pre-e) TTC #2 since Aug '13
    DX Low AMH (.58) March '14 • FSH-7.5 • E2-35.5 (Nov '14)
    SA- Great numbers • SIS- Clear (Nov '14)
     Cycle 1- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-BFP • EDD 1/12/15 
    Ectopic @ 5w6d • Methotrexate Shot 5/18/14
    Cycle 2,3,4- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-- BFN
    Cycle 5- Letrozole CD3-7 & Trigger BFFN
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  • so many ((HUGS)) lady!!!!
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    Me: 31, DH: 30, Married July 2013
    TTC since March 2014
    BFP#1  5.17.14, EDD 1.26.15, MMC (measuring 6w3d at 8w3d), D&C 6.26.14
    BFP#2  9.19.14, EDD 5.29.15, AF on 9.23.14 CP
    BFP#3  12.17.14, EDD 8.25.15, AF on 12.21.14 CP#2

    Current plan: TTC while waiting for RPL results to come back
    Stalk my ute

  • It's times like this I wish I was super smart (or even a little smart) so I could help answer your questions 

    I have tons of hugs for you, though! 
    I am not sure how to say this without getting a "solicitation" warning so I guess I just say that I am not longer active on THIS site. 



  • ((hugs)), big giant ((hugs)). I have no idea what any of the numbers mean but I'm sending you some major love. I'm sorry your dealing with this shit and the ugly cries are no fun.

    Married 9/13/14

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    Me: 24 / DH: 24

    BFP#1 10/15/14 - EDD 6/19/2014 - MC 10/23/14

    BFP #2: 12/18/14 - EDD: 8/31/15 - MC 1/4/14 5w6d

    **Currently Benched until TBD**

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  • I have no idea what those numbers mean, but I wanted to send (((hugs))).
    Married to DH since 6/30/2007
    Me: 32  DH: 32
    BFP #1: 4/1/2010 DS born: 12/3/10
    TTC #2 since 5/2014
    BFP # 2 : 6/16/14 EDD: 2/25/15  Missed Miscarriage discovered 7/10/14 D&C 7/17/14 Pathology results normal
    BFP #3
    : 10/21/14 EDD: 7/6/15  11/24/14:  Saw heartbeat! 
    Missed Miscarriage discovered 12/22/14 at 12w0d D&C 12/23/14 Pathology: Partial Molar Pregnancy/Triploidy
    ~~Currently benched following PMP~~ 
    **all AL welcome**



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  • I have no knowledge, but all the hugs.
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  • So many giant squishy creepy internet stranger ((((hugs)))) I still don't understand all these numbers. What does your RE say? Is he concerned?
    >:D< >:D< >:D< >:D< >:D<

    PgAL welcome


    Married 6/11/2011

    Me & Hubby: 34

    TTC journey started 12/2012

    BFP #1 6/5/2013, MC confirmed 6/26/2013 @ 7 wks

    BFP#2 8/25/2013 MC confirmed 10/16/2013 @ 12 wks (D&C 10/18)

    Diagnosis: unexplained RPL, unexplained IF.

    Also have hypothyroidism

    Started TTC again 12/2013

     

    IUI#1:Clomid CD 3-7, Trigger'ed CD 12. IUI CD 14. BFN

    IUI #2:Letrozole CD 3 - 7, Follistim CD 9, Trigger CD 10, IUI CD12. BFN

    Current plan: IVF with PGD. Antagonist - Vivelle Protocal. Stim start 12/1. ER 12/14.

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/502498

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  • (((Hugs))) honey. Have you talked with your doc yet to see what they think? They may not be worried or they may want to redo the tests next cycle.

    Staying away from Google is a good idea but you might ask your doctor if there is other hormone related tests that should be ran in light of your changing numbers.

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  • It's been a while so I don't remember what those numbers mean. You could probably lurk on 3T and you might be able to get some clarity there. Sorry this is so confusing ((Hugs))

    IUI#3 brought us our dragon baby Z

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  • I have no advice for you, but so so so many hugs lady. 

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    We met in middle school. We got married 15 years later in a February blizzard of 2010. 
    TTC since February 2010
    Diagnosed with Lyme Disease June 2010 Diagnosed with PCOS March 2011 Diagnosed with Celiac Disease January 2013
    BFP #1: August 25th 2013 EDD May 4th 2014 SCH MC October 3rd 2013
    BFP #2: February 14th 2014 EDD October 25th 2014 CP February 17th 2014

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  • I'm so sorry you're dealing with this lady. Big hugs. What did your doc think? I would definitely step away from the Google (easier said than done). Sending you lots of love.
    Me: 31     DH: 33
    Dx: Me: Recurrent Pregnancy Loss; DH: Low Morphology (2%)
    BFP#1: MC 3/1/11 at 6w1d - EDD 10/21/11
    BFP#2: 5/3/11 - EDD 1/9/12 - DD Born 1/6/12
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    TTC #2 since 12/13
    BFP#3: MC 2/8/14 at 4w5d - EDD 10/13/14
    BFP#4: MC 5/6/14 at 4w4d - EDD 1/9/15
    BFP#5: MMC discovered 8/4/14 at 9w1d - D&C 8/5/14 - Baby Boy with Trisomy 16 (maternal origin) - EDD 3/8/15
    BFP#6: CP 11/6/14 at 4w2d - EDD 7/14/15
    IVF #1 with ICSI & PGS: May/June 2015, ER 6/3/15, 17R/17M/15F
    IVF #2 with ICSI & PGS: July 2015, ER 7/16/15, 16R/11M/9F
    PGS results = 6 normal embryos (4 boys, 2 girls)
    FET 9/23/15 = BFFN
    Natural FET 11/4/15 = BFP!
    Beta 9dp5dt = 92

  • buggirl72 said:

    (((Hugs))) honey. Have you talked with your doc yet to see what they think? They may not be worried or they may want to redo the tests next cycle.

    Staying away from Google is a good idea but you might ask your doctor if there is other hormone related tests that should be ran in light of your changing numbers.

    The nurse didn't seem too concerned. She said that the doctor signed off on it and marked it as normal. I said that my FSH has gone up and she said that she would review it again, and speak to the doctor. I'm just concerned because of the low AMH that I have, and the fact that the E2 dropped by half and the FSH went up. It's just all so unclear, Ya know?
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    Hubs & I -29 • Met 5/18/04 • Married 5/8/10
    BFP #1 DS 2/7/11 (Born @ 34 wks via ECS due to Pre-e) TTC #2 since Aug '13
    DX Low AMH (.58) March '14 • FSH-7.5 • E2-35.5 (Nov '14)
    SA- Great numbers • SIS- Clear (Nov '14)
     Cycle 1- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-BFP • EDD 1/12/15 
    Ectopic @ 5w6d • Methotrexate Shot 5/18/14
    Cycle 2,3,4- Clomid CD3-7 & Trigger-- BFN
    Cycle 5- Letrozole CD3-7 & Trigger BFFN
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  • I agree with pp to stay away from Google!! I know it's so hard but you need to talk to your doctor about what he/she thinks. I can't remember my exact numbers but my e2 was definitely different cycle to cycle. ((Hugs))



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    TTC #3 since June 2013
    BFP #1 7/21/2013--EDD 3/30/14--D&C 9/24/13
    BFP #2 1/28/14--MC 2/7/14

    IUI #1 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IUI #2 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IUI #3 5mg Femara + trigger = BFN
    IVF #1, Stimmed for 12 days, ER 8/22/14, 9 retrieved, 7M, 7F!!  Freeze all due to fluid in uterus.
    FET end of October 2014 cancelled due to fluid in uterus due to possible c-scar defect
    Surgery scheduled 12/12/14 to fix possible isthmocele
    3/26/15 transferred one 8 cell grade 4 embryo and one 6 cell grade 3 embryo = slow rising betas for 2+ weeks = ectopic MTX shot 4/29/15
    Repeat c-scar surgery June 2015
    2nd and last IVF cycle August 2015, stimmed for 12 days, 2 egg retrieved, both mature and both fertilized.  Transferred both 8-cell embryos on Day 3, beta 9/5/15 = BFFN
    MOVING TO ADOPTION!  


  • Im sorry :( I have no idea what any of those numbers mean, but I'm sending big hugs and wishing for clarity for you.  >:D< :-*
    Me: 29 DH: 30
    DS born 12/29/12 @ 41+1 
    TTC#2 07/2014
    BFP 10/14/14 MC 11/14/14 D&C for RT 11/18/2014 
    Given all clear 12/15/2014 - back to TTC



  • I have nothing but lots of (((((((hugs))))))))
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    Me: 38
    DX:  Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant

    DH: 34
    MFI due to Testicular Cancer

    Married March 2012 <3
    IVF w/ICSI #1
    10 little polar bears
    FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN :(
    FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
    Beta 1= 276
    Beta 2= 662
    4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
    5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
    5/3/14 ~ D&C
    FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
    October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
    Fur Children:  Memphis 3y, Dutch 3y, Marcel 2y, Meadow 1y



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  • Sorry! I'm clueless here, but maybe you could call the dr and ask him your specific questions/voice your concerns. (((((Hugs)))))
    TTC: Since July 2013
    BFP #1: EDD 05/27/2014 (D&C 10/17/2014)
  • I know it can be frustrating and tempting to over analyze everything but it doesn't sound like your Dr is too concerned. Hopefully the nurse calls back with some reassurance
    ((Hugs))

    4 Losses (2003, 2008, Apr 2012, & Oct 2012)
    All RPL and IF testing with multiple REs = normal

    5 IUIs = BFN

    All AL are welcome
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  • I have no advice but I'm sending all of the hugs!

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    Me: 26 DH:28
    TTC - Sept 2014
    # 1 BFP - October 5, 2014 EDD June 5, 2015 CP - October 14, 2014


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  • Oh how I wish I could offer you something insightful... I can only offer hugs.  And you can have those in plenty :-) 

    Me 35 / DH 36
    TTC since 09/2009
    Hashimoto's diagnosis 11/2011 / Endometriosis removal surgery 04/2013
    Other diagnosis: 1 mutation - PAI-1 gene
    BFP#1 9/27/2013  /  EDD 6/4/14  /  MC 10/17/2013
    BFP#2 3/4/14  /  EDD 11/13/14  /  CP
    BFP#3 6/7/14  / EDD 2/16/15  /  CP
    BFP #4 11/7/2014 / EDD 7/17/15  /  CP
    Current  Plan: Waiting to change RE... Appt on 1/16
    RXs: Metformin, Levothyroxin, Baby Aspirin, CoQ10, Vitamin D, Folic Acid, Pre-natal. Progesterone post O.

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  • rslh10 said:

    You ladies are the best. All the hugs have made me feel so much better. As for my RE and what he thinks--The nurse said he is unconcerned now and that we are going to keep moving forward with this round of Clomid (50mg). We will see how I respond, and hope for the best. Worst case scenario I have to do another IUI and we try injects (I spoke with him about these at my u/s appt but he said that we should give Clomid one try, and that the injects are $$$ so we'll try the cheap route first). Today is CD4, and my second day of clomid...here's hoping! Grow Follies, grow!!!






     I feel like all of your hugs are like a thunder shirt for dogs to calm them down  =))

    Your hugs are my thunder shirt <3 hahaha!! @amybunny30, does this thing actually work?
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    Also we have a thunder shirt, depending on the stress level it helps

    PgAL welcome


    Married 6/11/2011

    Me & Hubby: 34

    TTC journey started 12/2012

    BFP #1 6/5/2013, MC confirmed 6/26/2013 @ 7 wks

    BFP#2 8/25/2013 MC confirmed 10/16/2013 @ 12 wks (D&C 10/18)

    Diagnosis: unexplained RPL, unexplained IF.

    Also have hypothyroidism

    Started TTC again 12/2013

     

    IUI#1:Clomid CD 3-7, Trigger'ed CD 12. IUI CD 14. BFN

    IUI #2:Letrozole CD 3 - 7, Follistim CD 9, Trigger CD 10, IUI CD12. BFN

    Current plan: IVF with PGD. Antagonist - Vivelle Protocal. Stim start 12/1. ER 12/14.

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/502498

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  • I just double checked my blog from back with the IVFs and such - my RE always wanted FH below 12, my last IVF I was at 9 and the didn't mention any concerns. My FSH was in the 30's like your earlier readings. Forgive me as I'm mobile but have you been doing anything lately to suppress estrogen levels in prep? Or is this just natural? All I have is that before IVF they want it below 100. E2 obviously increases each day toward ovulation and should be between 200-300 per mature egg about to ovulate so depending what day in your cycle - if you are say cd3 when it was tested most recently compared to getting testing done on cd4 the other times could change the number.

    TTC since July 2009. Dx MFI & LPD. 
    IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
    IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
    IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
    IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
    BFP! Beta 1:104 @ 10dp6dt, Beta 2:178 @ 12dp6dt,  beta 3:366 @ 14dp6dt
    Saw heartbeat twice before missed M/C at 8w3d on 12/27/13, missing my little angel boy
    JUNE 2014 IVF#2;  5R, 2M, 1F Three day transfer 6/7.  Beta 6/18 - BFN
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  • (Hugs) Grow follies!

    Me: 31 DH: 36
    Dated Since ‘02, Married in ‘06
    BFP#1 05/16/06, EDD01/16/07, MC 06/12/06 at 8 weeks
    BFP #2 08/14/14, EDD 04/22/15, MC 09/17/14 at 9 weeks

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  • I have no advice, but I did want to offer you huge ((hugs)).
    BFP #1: 5-14-2010, DD born 1-22-2011
    BFP #2: 4-20-2012, Natural MC 5-1-2012
    BFP #3: 7-19-2012, DS born 3-27-2013
    BFP #4: 9-13-2014, MMC discovered 10-27-14 at 10w, d&c on 11-6-14 

  • More hugs for you.
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    Me 36 DH 39

    DD 3/29/12
                      BFP 6/4/14 ~ MMC 7/7/14 ~ D&C 7/15/14            
    BFP 11/28/14 ~ MMC  12/29/14    

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  • I'm just here to offer ((hugs))
    TTC since August 2013 BFP #1 1/15/14...MMC 2/24/14...D&C 3/3/14 BFP #2 5/11/14 ... severe pre-e placental abruption our angel born sleeping at 22 weeks Lilypie Angel and Memorial tickers
  • I have no advice, but wanted to send you big big (((hugs)))!

    Married: 9/25/10
    TTC # 1 since 5/2013
    BFP # 1: 2/7/14, mmc 3/12/14, D&C 3/19/14
    Boy, Trisomy 13, Karyotyping and Genetic Testing all normal
    Hysteroscopy and D&C 6/2/14, retained tissue
    Off the bench 7/14
    BFP # 2: 10/3/14, Blighted ovum, D&C 11/12/14
    Girl, no chromosomal abnormalities detected
    RPL Testing: Pre-diabetic, ANA+
    "I carry your heart with me (I carry it in my heart) I am never without it." - e.e. cummings

  • I don't have any advice, but wanted to pile on more ((hugs))!




    Me-27 DH-29

     TTC#1 January 2013

    BFP February 27th 2014, MMC ended in D&C

    Working on our rainbow!

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  • Don't know very well how to interpret, but just wanted to send you big ((hugs)) lovey!!

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    Married 07/2006, TTC since 2010
    08/2011: Clomid 50mg, IUI --> BFN  ,
    10/2011: Clomid 100mg, IUI --> BFN

    04/13: Clomid, IUI BFP --> MC at 6w1d
    05/13: Femara 2.5mg, IUI --> BFN  , 08/13: Femara 2.5mg --> BFN
    03/14: Femara 5mg, IUI --> 1 follicle @ 27d --> BFP! EDD 12/02/14--> blighted ovum, missed MC 6w6d --> D&C
    4/23: D&C...starting over again, with a little part of my heart broken off
    5/31: Femara 7.5mg --> cancelled cycle, no follies
    7/14: Femara 5mg + brevelle + menopur + IUI --> converted to IVF, ER 7/28 --> ET cancelled due to severe OHSS.
    9/20/14:  Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP--> EDD 6/6/15 --> MC at 5w3d 
     
    10/16/14: Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFN
    2/6/15: Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP --> MC at 5w4d
    3/20/16: PGS-tested Frozen Embryo Transfer --> BFP, Living Child born 12/1/15
    6/6/17: Fresh IVF Cycle --> Severe OHSS, 5 PGS-tested embryos frozen
    2/23/18: PGS-tested FET --> BFN
    3/30/18: Cancelled cycle due to lining 4.2mm
    6/21/18: PGS-tested FET --> BFN
  • (((Hugs))). If your RE is unconcerned then I would go with that. Higher E2 can artificially lower FSH, but numbers that are out of normal ranges are E2 > 60 and FSH > 12. You are well within those parameters. Don't fret.
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    AMA 35 :  DH 33
    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

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  • ((( hugs hugs hugs )))
    Me: 24 (hypothyroidism)
    DH:25
    Married June 2012 
    TTC September 2014
    BFP #1 October 17, 2014
    MC #1 October 26, 2014
    Benched 2 cycles (hoping to TTC January
    Off the bench as of Jan 2015
  • I hope you're feeling better today. Here are some more ((hugs))

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    TTC since July 2014
    BFP#1 11/1/14, EDD 7/15/15, 
    MM/C (blighted ovum) 12/2/14 at 8 wks, D&C 12/5/14
    Fur Parents to Mercy, Fluffy and Big Tex
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  • BIg squishy ((hugs))

    Me: 24 
    DH: 25
    BFP: 1/12/14       EDD: 9/18/14     MC: 1/15/14
    BFP: 5/6/14         EDD: 1/5/15       MC: 5/10/14
    BFP: 12/29/14      EDD: 9/12/15      MC: 1/5/15
    Dx: PCOS - 8/20/14, Hashimoto's - 10/10/14, Gluten Allergy 10/10/14


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  • yea I dont have a clue what any of this means but I dont like to know youre so upset... maanny huge hugs to you!!!

    ~TTC #1 Since 3/2014
    ~BFP #1 6/2014 
    EDD 2/11/15
    ~MMC 7/31/14 @12weeks ~D&C /2/2014  

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