October 2013 Moms

Upset, need to vent! NBR

My freaking parents gave there dog up for adoption this weekend, without telling anyone. I saw it on the shelters FB page. He's like 10+ years old and heart worm positive. Last week they took him to the vet because he was having trouble eating and the vet said it was from an abscess tooth, but nothing about heart worm. I don't know if they knew he was positive or not but l'd like to think they didn't. They aren't "those" kind of people. I'm just in shock and pretty sad! We got him when I was a young teenager so I lived with him most of his life. Now I want to go adopt him, but with two dogs and a baby already I feel it'll get crazy. Plus treating him for the heart worm! I called my mom and her excuse was bc my dumb ass 19 year old sister is pregnant and moving back in with them, she just won't have time to take care of him. Otherwise my parents are great, but this was a total asshole move and it ruined my day! Am I an asshole too for not going to get him?

Re: Upset, need to vent! NBR

  • You would be an asshole if you got him and weren't able to give him the attention/time/care that he needs.  It seems like you know that you won't be able to so I think you are doing the right thing for your family and for him.  I agree with PP that you should reach out to people you know to see if they could take him in.




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  • If I was capable I would go get him. Only you can decide if you are able to take care of him or not. I would be very upset too.
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  • You're not an asshole for not going. But wow that's horrible of your parents.

    We have 2 dogs too and a bird and LO. There is no way I could add a third.
  • You're in a stuff spot. I see animals as family members and I would adopt immediately and find a way to make it work, but that's me. Can you talk to your parents and explain that the dog would most likely be
    euthanized? Ugh my heart hurts for him, he has no clue why his humans abandoned him :-(.

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    I dont know what area you are at but in the Seattle area we have olddoghaven.org . You might see if y ou have anything like them in your area? :( so sad for the dog. Hope something works out

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  • I'm sad :( I love old dogs.
  • That's is so sad, especially because it seems like your parents could take care of him but are choosing not to.

    Hopefully you can convince your parents to take him back.
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  • Hmm...so, you are overloaded with a dog and a baby, so you can't take another dog in because you don't have the time to handle that?

    But your parents had the time and energy to take care of the dog before your sister got knocked up and decided to move back in and had your parents take care of her and the baby. It is not like your parents made the choice to get pregnant and now are putting the dog up for adoption because "omg! Baby!"

    They didn't have any choice in your sister's pregnancy, other than agreeing to take her in and help her out in this incredibly stressful teen pregnancy situation. Hardly the stuff that assholes are made of, in my opinion. If they had cited their old dog as the reason they didn't have the time or energy to help their pregnant teenage daughter, I would definitely say they were assholes.

    If you want to adopt the dog, go ahead. If you want to take in your sister and the new baby, so your parents can focus on their dog, do that. But otherwise, it seems like you can't really know how stressful their lives are about to get...
  • @nryan55 I am a dog lover. My sweet shelter dog is lying on my feet as I type this.

    But I have such a soft spot for people who basically drop everything that is going on in their lives to help out friends and loved ones in need. In an ideal world, they would be able to take care of the pregnant teenager and new baby and also handle a medically fragile dog. But if it is an either/or situation, I think they made the right choice--and I think their grandchild will appreciate that they didn't choose the dog over them.

    I can't imagine how stressful it would be to think all your kids are adults and out of the house, only to find out you were about to start all over again, thanks to your daughter's poor decision making. What a challenging situation. And they did take him to a no kill shelter. And didn't pressure their other daughter to take on the dog when they knew she couldn't handle it either. I just can't hate on them for this, based on the facts in op's post.
  • @sooner1981‌ they are deft bending over backwards for my sister to help her and baby. But, I feel like they didn't have to do this. They could afford his treatment and my sister isn't due until the end of May. I don't know, I just sucks.
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    edited March 2014

    @petdocd -- I just don't think this was a situation where it was the dog owner's careless actions that led to them being in a situation that was just too much to handle.  They are doing the gracious thing by taking in the pregnant teenage sister.  They didn't know they were going to have to do this and basically start over in raising a baby when they got the dog 10 years ago (when their youngest kid was 9). 

    To me, this is completely different than the previous posters on this board who got a puppy when they first got married, and then a year later want to get rid of the dog because they are now having a baby and don't want to deal with the dog anymore.  In that case, those posters knew they eventually wanted to have kids and chose to get a dog first--they should own that decision. But this is a completely different situation because the parents never thought they were going to be raising another baby and have their daughter and all her issues, whatever they are, back in the house again.

    I am ALL for personal responsibility.  And if the teenage sister were on this board, and acting super ungrateful for what her parents were doing for her, you are correct that I would ream her and tell her to grow up.  But I just can't see the anger for the parents on this one.  It is a super sucky situation and I am sad for all involved.  And I feel very bad for that sweet dog.  But I stand by saying that babies and human children have to come first, if a person feels like there is no way they can take care of both their human and dog responsibilities...


  • Amjoy25 said:
      And people are not more important than animals.

    And I will have to absolutely 100% disagree with you here. 

    Everyone has different opinions, but I honestly can't believe that anyone believes people are not more important than animals...  I am a huge animal lover.  I can barely kill flies (like, sometimes I trap flies in water glasses and take them outside to release them...I am weird like that).  But if I had to choose between whether to save my baby or my dog in a house fire, I wouldn't even have to think twice. 

    Who knows what kind of stress those parents are dealing with, trying to make their house ready for their teenage child and her baby to move back in.  I don't--so I can't judge.  All I know is that their excuse was they couldn't handle both the sick dog and the extra responsibilities of their child and grandchild.  And for me, that is enough.  Animals should be loved and treated humanely and with dignity.  But I DO believe people come first. 

  • Amjoy25 said:

    Agree to disagree I guess @sooner1981‌...and no one said anything about saving a child or an animal from a fire. Children are not smart enough to figure out how to escape; your dog would figure that out.

    Egocentrism is not a good quality for humans to adopt.

    Yeah, I guess we just come from two different philosophical viewpoints on this one. In the fire scenario, I wasn't saying I would save my kid over my dog because my kid is somehow dumber or less capable than my dog.

    I would save my kids because my kids are, in every aspect conceivable, more valuable and important to me than my dog.

    I love my dog like crazy. She was sick when we rescued her from the shelter, so I know all about that, and she sleeps in my bed. She's my buddy.

    But she is not my child and there are things I would do for my human family members that I just wouldn't do for my animal family. Not because I don't love them. But just because, to me, human family really does come first. That is not "egocentric"--that is just the reality that I live in.

    I get that you disagree, and that is fine. But since we are coming from such different philosophies, I doubt we will ever be able to really understand each other on this one.
  • @petdocd -- I am not arguing for the sake of argument. I just try not to judge people if I don't know the facts.

    In this case, the fact that the 19 year old pregnant sister is obnoxious and irresponsible doesn't make the burden on her parents who are allowing her to live with them any less. In fact, that kind of attitude increases the stress and responsibility that the parents are feeling in this sucky situation.

    And also, This is OP's childhood dog, and she is not planning to go rescue it because she has a lot on her plate with her dogs and new baby. If OP really believes that dogs really are as important as human family members, then she is essentially letting a sister or brother be given away/possibly euthanized, rather than doing the "right/hard" thing by taking care of this "sibling" she grew up with.

    Not saying I agree with that--because I don't. I think people have to do the best they can with the mental/physical/emotional resources they have. And I tend to give these parents the benefit of the doubt because their life is about to get even harder. I have seen teen mom. I know that the parents of the entitled, obnoxious teenage moms get stuck with pretty much all the responsibilities of raising a child, with none of the upside. It is a thankless deal-- but they chose to allow her a place to stay rather than turning her away to do it alone. So they get a pass in my book.
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    Based on the little I actually know of the situation, the parents don't get a pass from me. I'm hearing that there would be one dog and one baby in a house with three adults. Not super-overwhelming. I'm seeing this either as an excuse or, more likely, they're already planning to take on more of the childcare responsibility than they should. It would be a huge disservice to absolutely everyone involved if the parents allow the sister to get away with the ridiculous teen mom shit you see on tv. If they are the ones raising the grandkid while its mother is right there in the house, everyone is doing something wrong. It honestly sounds like they're not even going to try to make her raise her own kid.

    As for getting the dog, I wouldn't blame you if you decided you couldn't, but I probably would if it were me. Dh and I have two dogs and one is really difficult. We regularly say no more dogs but if something happened where his parents couldn't take care of their dog, we wouldn't be able to leave her in the shelter.Good luck to you, op. It's a shitty situation to be in.
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    I would be super upset OP and tell my parents my opinion. I'd also probably go get my childhood dog. I'm not sure what the EU rate is where you are but in Houston it is between 55-84% at each shelter here and for an older dog with health issues it is pretty much a death sentence here so of course I would be pissed. Maybe your area does not have a rate like that so maybe it is seen differently. I think that people who take in an animal should see it as committing for life or finding another home for the animal if they cannot, not just dump them. People suck. 
    We have 4 cats ( one recently went missing last week and I'm heartbroken trying to find her), two dogs, two rabbits and fish. Is it hard taking care of them all and a baby...yes...would I think of giving them up...nope.
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  • Ok so update! I sorta went off on my mom a little and she got very upset, trying to say she feels bad too and doesn't need someone making her feel worse. Whatever. I still very much disagree with the decision because they COULD take care of Dusty(the dog). I have left a message with the shelter to give me a call about treating him and bringing him home with me. Usually my parents are great people and help anybody but in this case they are just wrong.
  • :: chiming in late:: I'm so glad you contacted the shelter. Our senior adoptees are part of our family, no question. I agree with PPs that the odds of someone adopting Dusty are slim -- our pooches were 6 and 10 when we adopted them and it's the best thing we ever did.

    Side note: it's actually my lifelong #ifmoneywasnoobject dream to have a rescue for senior dogs.

    We have three dogs, all with myriad inherited health issues due to negligence that require constant vet trips, an asshole cat, a fish, a gigantic garden, oh -- and a baby. I honestly don't know how we take care of everything, but we do. Trust me, you'll get into a rhythm and you'll figure it out, too! (And have no regrets in the end.)

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