Talk to me about OPKs like I'm 5

KC1212

I got a +OPK on CD 10 (early for my norm) but other signs (CM, cramps, etc.) lined up with it.

FF even agreed with me. Then FF disagreed with me (you recall that thread, I'm sure). Someone pointed out to me via PM that the body takes a natural dip in progesterone around 4-5dpo. I googled it - apparently it's called a "secondary estrogen surge". I thought cool beans- that explains the temp dip. The next day FF gave me back my solid CHs. But this morning they took them away again...but I'm 99.99% sure I'm sleeping with my mouth open!

Now - CD 17 another positive OPK ( I took on a whim this morning just to pee on something)

But- I don't feel like I'm O'ing. So what the hell?

I know you can gear up to O and then not but I feel like I'm arguing with a pee stick here " I'm 99.99% sure I already ovulated!!!"

I think next month I'm switching to vaginal temping and maybe breaking out the CBEFM.

It doesn't matter- I'm tracking this cycle for my records - kwim? It's just bugging me.

Fuck it. I'm confused just typing this shit.

Potato.

designer303

I love this thread because these are the kind of convos that go in my head all the time, I have no advice except that I would almost always say go with your gut. Did you have negative opk's between the positives?

KC1212

@designer303 yes, I did. And the CD10 + was a CB digital. The CD 17 + was a FRER (which I bought because it came with a HPT- lol).

So different brands.

designer303

(which I bought because it came with a HPT- lol).

I loove it, okay so I did some reading and I guess those FR opk's are super sensitive.  So I'm sticking with my original assesment of ignore this morning's result and tell FF you know better. 

designer303

(which I bought because it came with a HPT- lol).

I loove it, okay so I did some reading and I guess those FR opk's are super sensitive.  So I'm sticking with my original assesment of ignore this morning's result and tell FF you know better. 

KC1212

@desinger303 you're awesome >:D< I did not know that!! I'm going to have to google now thanks!

GraceyandTroy

Take a hpt!  If you get a bfp, that would explain the +opk  That's what I would do, but who really knows.  I don't even use opk's because they are too confusing for me.  

rmpar29

I'm not really sure without seeing your chart.  It sounds like you geared up to O, but didn't and you are gearing up again.  Are you using FMU?  Are your temps back below your coverline?

KC1212

@GraceyandTroy‌ I thought the OPK + while pregnant thing was Internet urban legend :-/

KC1212

@rmpar29‌ yes FMU- always. I don't have a cover line anymore but, my temp spiked, plummeted, and is now slowly climbing back up again. I'm mobile so I can't link. I've been charting since August so I thought I had this down but apparently not :-<

rmpar29

I have heard that FMU can sometimes cause false positives and that putting it in the urine stream instead of collecting then dipping can cause false positives.  I'm not sure if this is just with Wondfo's or other brands.  Maybe try another OPK when you get home?  Maybe a non-digi so you can see the line? 

Wonky cycle always cause us to do this - #-o  Maybe post in the CT on TTCAL and get some of the experts to look at your chart?

KC1212

@rmpar29‌ I need to buy more little disposable bathroom cups! Damn! I just peed on it this time but usually I'm a dipper.

GraceyandTroy

KC1212 said:

@GraceyandTroy‌ I thought the OPK + while pregnant thing was Internet urban legend :-/

I had heard of it before I had my son so I tested back when I was pg and it turned a +opk.  I don't think it's legend.  But, that being said, I don't know why you got two positives a week apart.  These wonky cycles are killer.  Just wait it out and keep charting, it's all you can do.  

KC1212

Okay- I took another OPK and it is negative. I think this morning's +OPK is a fluke.

Next cycle I'm 100% starting vaginal temping.

Thanks for weighing in everyone! I'm going with my gut on this one. I think I O'd CD 11ish.

almostamissus

Just to add my two cents:
I completely agree with getting false positives in the morning. Apparently, (just like hcg) lh is normally higher in the morning... But if it's a surge, it should stick around longer. If you take out today's + does ff give you ch back?

Opk=hpt is not urban legend!! Kinda cool actually. I saw it explained like this once and it made sense. Lh and hcg are very similar, but hcg wears a "hat". The hpts will only register positive when there is a hat, but opks don't care- because the two hormones are so similar.

Hope this craziness ends for you soon!

KC1212

Man if it wasn't totally creepy I would go back in time and enter this craziness in the school science fair instead of the the - "which nail polish dries fastest" crap.

bcw2009

I am kinda stumped by your scenario?!  I would guess either anovulatory or mouth breathing.  Sometimes when my opk/cycles are inconsistent I never really know what happened until AF show and then I work backwards...
Hope your chart starts clearing up!!

AprilDrew04

I believe OPK's are not suggested for fmu. Somewhere in the packaging it says to test afternoon, although if I am testing twice a day then I test mid-morning and late afternoon.

I had also read somewhere that you can use an OPK as a HPT...something about the hormones being similar. Just a reminder that the CBEFM takes a cycle to "learn" you...maybe it won't if you used it in the past.