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2ww, to pee or not be pee (on a stick)

Hopefully it's not considered bad forum etiquette to start this thread, but I feel like there are quite a few of us in the 2ww (or 10 day wait) and I'm just curious about your decision to POAS or not.  I was initially beta or bust, but maaaaaan this is tough! On one hand, I'm not feeling prego, have constant cramps, and really want to know.  On the other, I know there's a good chance the HPT could be wrong no matter what it says.....oh what to do......thoughts?
First natural BFP June 2013
Ectopic July 2012 with fallopian tube and ovary removal :(

First IVF (after 1 cancelled cycle) Jan 2014, 
ER 1/16
ET 1/21
Beta 1/31 BFP!
Beta 2: 400
Beta 3: 700
Beta 4: 11,000  
Beta 5: 45,000
1st US 2/18:  TWINS!!!  :)
EDD: 10/10/14
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  • I am ridiculous and POAS 4dp5dt. Soooooo worth it. But each day I wonder if it will still be there. Last IVF I tested out the trigger and I think it helped get me mentally prepared for the bad news. By the time beta rolled around, I already knew and had started to accept it.
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    4 IUIs with Clomid, Letrozole, and Menopur. All BFN.
    9/12: lap / hysteroscopy: found and removed mild endometriosis, cervical polyp, and 2 para-tubular cysts
    5/13 IVF #1: Follistim, Menopur, Ganirelix, 10R/4M/4F, ET of 2, 5 cell and 4 cell, no frosties = BFN
    12/13 IVF #2 = November / December 2013. Microdose Lupron Protocol: 15R/6M/6F, Froze all 6 due to high E2 and P4
    FET 1: Jan 22, 2014 of one 4AB blast and one 3BB blast (3 blasts on ice!)
    BFP on HPT 4dp5dt, Beta #1 9dp5dt: 310, Beta #2 11dp5dt: 899
    First u/s on 2/17/14: TWINS!!!!! both w/HBs of 114 at 6w3d, HBs 150 and 152 at 7w5d

    5/27/2014: Team purple!!!!  EDD 10/10/2014 / 
    Delivered by c-section at 32w0d 8/15/2014 due to preeclampsia/HELLP syndrome
    Baby Boy 4lbs 1oz, 17 inches
    Baby Girl 3lbs 5oz, 16 inches


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  • I POAS everyday from 6dp3dt till beta for IVF #1 and it was absolutely depressing to go through the full grief cycle for the better part of a week. I resolved to go beta or bust for IVF #2 and then our transfer got canceled. It was devastating!! For IVF #3, I pray we make it to transfer, and I know without a doubt that I will go beta or bust. It will be hard, but what 2ww is ever easy?! Good luck, girls!
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    Me: 32 DH: 35  TTC#1 since March 2012
    Dx: Poor Embryo Quality, Arcuate Uterus, Poor Uterine Blood Flow, Mild Endo, 
           Protein S Deficiency, Sjorgen's Syndrome 

    IUI #1-5: BFN
    Laparoscopy & Hysteroscopy: minimal endo, partial septoplasty
    IVF #1: 10R/6M/6F ~ Day 3 ET = BFN
    IVF #2: 14R/9M/5F ~ transfer canceled ~ all embryos arrested at 1-2 cell stage
    IVF #3: 9R/5M/5F ~ 1 frosty!
    IVF #4 (FET #1): BFN

    IVF #5 (DE IVF #1 with Dr. KK protocol): Currently PREGNANT!!!!!!
    Synthroid + Prednisone + Metformin + Baby Aspirin + Supplements Galore = 15+ pills a day
    Lupron + Lovenox + Delestrogen + IVIG + B/W = 2-5 pokes a day
    19R, 17M, 17F - transferred two Grade A blasts 11/16, four frosties!!!
    Beta #1 11/24 (13dpo/8dp5dt) = 367 ~ Beta #2 11/26 (15dpo/10dp5dt) = 709
    Beta #3 11/29 (18dpo/13dp5dt) = 1,997 ~ Beta #4 12/1 (20dpo/15dp5dt) = 3,403

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  • I am debating on whether to POAS or not during this 2ww. I am currently 5dp3dt and my beta is still over a week away. I'm probably going to crack and just POAS soon.... I am sooooo impatient and this 2ww is driving me insane!!!


     

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    ***Losses mentioned***

    ***TTC since June 2011
    ***DH to see urologist Feb. 2013
    ***BFP #1: Feb. 2nd, 2013; M/C #1: Feb. 12th, 2013 5w3d :'(
    ***1st RE appt. April 10th, 2013
    ***IUIs #1-4 all failed
    ***IVF Consult October 7th, 2013
    ***IVF #1- January 2014: ER 1/20, ET of 2 embryos 1/23, Beta 2/5 *none to freeze*

    ***Feb 14th, 2014- M/C #2 @ 5w5d :'(

    ***RPL Bloodwork---- diagnosed with Factor V Leiden and MTHFR

    ***appt. w/ Genetic Counselor- April 18th

    ***hysteroscopy/laparoscopy scheduled for May 22nd- looks good

    ***IVF #2- July 2014

    ***7/26 Retrieval- 3 eggs :( , 2 fertilized :), none to freeze

    ***7/28 ET- 2dt of 2 embryos, stick little embies!!!

    ***8/11 beta- BFN :(

    ***WTF- DE IVF best option now

    ***DE IVF- January 2015

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  • Honestly, the only reason I'm going beta or bust is because I tested for every. single. IUI. And it was completely depressing to go into the office for blood work, knowing it was going to be negative, and have the staff be super excited and hopeful. And DH got mad because I would breakdown after he left and do it with out him. Whoopsies...
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    Me:29 DH:30
    TTC since 10/11
    HSG, BW, Ultrasound, SA, Genetic testing, Karyotype - all normal
    DX - Unexplained IF
    3/13-9/13 - 2 Clomid IUIs & 3 Injectable IUIs - All BFN
    Cycle 25 - IVF w/ antagonist protocol - ER 11/18 (11R, 9F) - ET 11/23 (1 "good" early blast) - none left to freeze - BFN
    Cycle 26 - IVF w/ antagonist protocol  - ER 1/17 (12R, 11M, 8 F) - ET 1/22 (2 "good" expanded blasts) 
    2 frosties - Beta 2/4 - BFP! 2104, 2/7 -  4780, ultrasound 2/12 - holy shiz, there are 2!
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  • I told myself that I would not POAS until the day before or day of beta, but now I am 99% sure I will test out my trigger again even though it drove me crazy last cycle. I have no willpower for beta or bust.

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    DH (32): SA is ok, slightly low morph, normal SCSA  Me (32): Slightly low progesterone, hostile CM, carrier for CF, Moderately high NKC, High TNFa, heterozyogous mutated Factor XIII, and +APA

    October 2012-May 2014: 4 failed IUIs, 3 failed IVFs, and 1 failed FETw/donor embryos

    November 2014: IVF w/ICSI #4 Agonist/Antagonist with EPP and Prednisone, Baby Aspirin, Lovenox, and IVIG for immune issues.  Converted to freeze all due to lining issues.  2 blasts frozen on day 6!

    January 2015: FET #2 Cancelled due to lining issues

    April 2015: FET #2.1


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  • My beta is on Sunday, if I make it to the weekend it will be a miracle. DH does not want me to test, despite the 30+ cheapies sitting in the closet thanks to an Amazon error. My transfer was on Friday, so that makes me 4dp5dt currently. Not that I'm counting ;-)
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    Me: 29, PCOS, No Ovulation, Metformin, Synthroid 
    DH: 32, Low Morph (1-2%) 

    Summer 2012: Stopped BCP, cycle never returned 
    Jan - March 2013: Clomid cycles, no response (aside from mood swings!) 
    March - May 2013: Pursued international adoption, on hold due to uncertainty and rule changes in country 
    July 2013: Gonal F + Ovidrel + IUI #1 = Poor Response + Poor Counts = BFN 
    Aug/Sept 2013: BCP to clear big cysts. IUI #2 same meds, better counts, another slow poor response. Cycle should have been cancelled. BFN. 
    Oct 2013: Same meds, IUI #3 cancelled due to 5 follicles...Seriously?! 

    Nov/Dec 2013: IVF w/ ICSI
    ER on 12/5: 46R, 42M, 37F, 21 blasts, 15 normal after CCS/PGD results,  FET on 1/24, transferred two hatching embryos! Super Bowl beta 2/2 - 459!  2/4 - 1465!!  
    Ultrasound 2/11 - TWINS!!

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  • Personally I POAS 4dp5dt transfer expecting a negative due to how early it was..... Unfortunately this led to a vicious cycle of heartbreak morning and night when they were all a
    Bfn. The day I went in for my beta I remember sitting next to a couple while I asked the nurse if it was possible to have a beta be positive while the HPT was negative at 10dp5dt, her answe was a simple no... The people sitting next to me whispered "oh how sad". I feel now that you should live in the moment. And GL to you and FX for an amazing beta
    Me: 38
    DX:  Adenomyosis, Compounded MTHFR, PAI-1 4G variant

    DH: 34
    MFI due to Testicular Cancer

    Married March 2012 <3
    IVF w/ICSI #1
    10 little polar bears
    FET #1 with 2 polar bears ~Nov 6, 2013 BFN :(
    FET # 2 with 2 more polar bears ~March 19, 2014 BFP!!!
    Beta 1= 276
    Beta 2= 662
    4/19/14 ~ baby A became an angel
    5/02/14 ~ baby B became an angel
    5/3/14 ~ D&C
    FET #3 with 1 male polar bear ~October 3, 2014
    October 13, 2014 ~ BFN
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  • I am a pee pusher, so naturally I pee!! On my first IVF I peed 7dp5dt and got a very clear positive, this time I knew it was going to be negative so I waited till the day before beta.
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    I'm 29 and DH is 32 we have a MFI (low count) 
    IVF #1 starting in August. ER 9/5/13 23 eggs we are fertilizing 15. 9 frozen
    ET 9/10 - transferred 1 perfect 5AA blast
    7dp5dt BFP ~~ Beta on 9/19 - 77.4 Beta #2 on 9/21 - 357
    Low heartbeat on 10/7 86, lower heartbeat on 10/11 76, no heartbeat 10/14/13. D&C 10/15/13
    Tests revealed MTHFR c677t mutation, put on Folgard.
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    FET #1 1/6/14 - 4BB blast - BFN
    FET #2 - 3/3/14 - 5AB Blast -- Beta #1 3/12 - 152 -- Beta #2 3/14 - 358
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    FET #3 06/09/16 - 5AB Blast - Beta #1 6/18- 245 -- Beta #2 06/20 - 600
     PAIF/SAIF/PAL/SAL welcome!

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    *** Signature warning *** flyby on this great question from SAIF and PAIF, four cycles of IVF including a cancellation, I have peed on enough sticks to wallpaper a bathroom *** I peed starting 4dp3dt every time because I emotionally needed to find out in private, and slowly. I knew that if I found out post-beta from a mostly unfamiliar nurse over the phone, I'd feel a need to white lie and reassure her I was fine if it was BFN - or be restrained and classy in my joy if it was BFP - and I'd hang up the phone feeling like I'd screwed up my response and would be all bottled up inside. I always felt like I had to know as soon as I could know and be either alone for it or with DH, so I could respond as authentically and socially inappropriately as I wanted in those first few moments of awaiting the line (or no line). I wonder if I'm the only one :)
    D (34), J (37) and T3 (ages 2, 2 and brand new)
    Nov '10: IVF#1: BFP! Girl. Missed m/c at 14 weeks. Devastated
    Apr '11: IVF#2: BFP! Twin Girls born on Dec 3, 2011 at 31w5d! One month in NICU.
    Oct '13: IVF#3: BFP! Girl born Jun 19, 2014 at 38w3d!
  • This is my first IVF cycle but I always tested prior to beta for IUI's.  I much rather find out bad news in the privacy of my bathroom rather than from a phone call.

    Me (36) - LOR, DH (34) - MFI (low count & poor motility)

    TTC since 01/2012

    11/2012-04/2013 Unmonitored Clomid cycles through OB/GYN; Referred to RE

    05/2013-Benched due to cyst

    06/2013 - Clomid 50 mg + HCG Trigger + TI = BFN

    07/2013 - Clomid 50 mg + HCG Trigger + IUI #1 = BFN

     08/2013 - Clomid 50 mg + HCG Trigger + IUI #2 = BFN

    09/2013 - Benched for lap & hysteroscopy (Stage II Endo Removed)

    10/2013 - Menopur + HCG Trigger + IUI #3 = BFN

    11/2013 - Menopur + HCG Trigger + IUI #4 = BFN

     12/2013 - Clomid + HCG Trigger + IUI #5 = BFN

    2/2014 - IVF #1 - Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol - 5R/4M/4F w/ICSI; 2 embies transferred on day 3 (none to freeze)

    2/27/14 - First BFP Ever!!!  EDD 11/3/14

     

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  • I'm so glad this thread got started. I am considering using one of the HPTs I have left from a 3-pack I bought over the summer before DH's numbers were retested (turned out a UTI made me late!). I'm 8dp5dt and my beta is scheduled for 2/3- my office won't do beta testing until 18 days past ER. Is that standard?

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    Me 37 y/o, DH 45 y/o; DH vasectomy reversal (his 2nd marriage) 11/8/12; TTC since 12/8/12. IVF due to MFI. DOR diagnosis April 2015.

     

    IVF #1 BCPs/Antagonist w/ICSI Jan 2014 = BFN

    IVF #2 MDL w/PICSI March 2014 = BFN

    IVF #3 EPP/Antagonist w/PICSI May/June 2014 = BFP!; MMC 6w4d

    IVF #4 No suppression/Antagonist Nov 2014/Converted to IUI #1 = BFN
    IVF #4.1 Feb 2015 = cancelled
    IVF #4.2 April 2015 - Lupron Stop Protocol with ICSI = PGD testing of embryo indicated it was abnormal
    IVF #5 June 2015 EPP with Antagonist 

     

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  • So glad this thread was started! I am I currently in my ten day wait as well. Mytransfer wass Jan 23 with a frozen! I want to test but nervous due to past ivf. To test or not to. Our beta I'd Feb 3!
  • I POAS during IUIs and got burned by a false positive on the last one. That was beyond rough, especially considering it was the first time I got anything even resembling a BFP. So, we are going beta or bust during IVF.

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    Aug. - Sept. 2013 - dIUIs = BFNs
    January 2014 - IVF = 3 freezer babies
    March 2014 - FET of AA and AB blast = BFP! Twins! 
    Nov. 7, 2014 - Wilhelmina "Willa" Suzanne (4lb 14oz) and Ari Jose (6lb 4oz) were born via CS
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  • I believe in POAS. I definitely want to find out in private and as early as possible. If I POAS I can do it on a good day of the week (i.e., not a work day) and be in control of the news. I would also want to know if there was a chemical. Frankly a bfp doesn't mean all that much to me at this point, so I won't celebrate in either case. I just want to know what's going on.

    Not a very cheery post, I know, but this is my opinion on the topic.
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    ***Losses mentioned.*** TTC #1 since May 2012. Me: 37, OH: 41. Ectopic August 2012 => tubal damage. :'(  Stage 1 endo removed June 2013. IVF #1 Oct/Nov 2013: Long Lupron with Gonal-F. 7R, 7M, 7F. 2 txfer@3d. Nothing frozen.  => M/C @ 8 wks. :'( Selected RPL panel all normal. Very hyper and brittle response to stims. IVF #2 (antagonist protocol) Feb 2014 => Converted to IUI (Perfect conditions). BFN. IVF #2.1 w/ new RE June 2014: Antagonist protocol. 33R, 31M, 30F, 19 blasts to test!!! I made it through without crashing!! :) Hats off to Dr. Fancypants!! ET of one 5AB blast. BFN. 13 10 CCS'ed snowflakes! FET #1 PUPO as of 7/29 Betas: 8/7@24, 8/9@97, 8/11@334 (etc.) Two sacs on 8/15, one seen on 8/18 after a bleed. U/s 8/25 (6+3) "perfect": 5.9 mm + HB@120bpm! U/s 9/4 (7+6): 15.9 mm + HB@172 bpm! Please, PLEASE stick this time!!!!
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  • I know it's a personal choice for everyone but I plan on testing every day from 5dpt on. My test is scheduled for Wednesday 2/4. It's so nerve racking.
    TTC since 1/2011
    DH 32 SA Only 3% Normal Forms, but good count good motility
    Me 32 DOR FSH 11.3, AFC 7, HSG normal
    5/28/13- IUI #1 50 mg Clomid BFN
    6/25/13 IUI #2 50 mg Clomid BFN
    7/27/13 IUI#3 50 mg Clomid BFN
    8/8/13 waiting to meet with the RE to discus IVF
    11/9/2013 IVF#1 canceled, only 1 follicle  :(
    12/26/2013 Starting Lupron for IVF#2
    1/21/2014 Retrieval but we still only had 1 follicle so only 1 egg. Fingers Crossed!!!
    2/5/2014 BFP!! Betas 39, 54, 217, 1681 Slow rising but this is the little egg that could :)
    2/19/2014 1st U/S at 6w1d showed us at 5w4d but yolk sac, gest. sac and the beginnings of a fetal pole identified. 
    2/26/2014 2nd U/S at 7w1d showed us at 6w4d and we saw a heartbeat!!! 133. RE says it's time to move to OB
    So far everything is looking good :)
    5/29/2014 It's a Girl!!!! :)
    7/6/2014 Failed my glucose tolerance tests, diabetic diet it is
    9/30/2014 Scheduled C-Section for Placenta Previa and she's perfect 

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  • This is 9dp5dt for me and I decided to POAS this morning and it gave me the result I was expecting- negative. I suppose there is some small chance that I could still have a positive beta (the doctors all cite examples) but I don't think it's the case with me because I have zero symptoms- I feel better/more normal than I felt since before I started the BCPs in December. I am glad I did the test and can start looking ahead at what's next- we will definitely be going for IVF#2 and hopefully we'll get more embryos so we can freeze some.

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    Me 37 y/o, DH 45 y/o; DH vasectomy reversal (his 2nd marriage) 11/8/12; TTC since 12/8/12. IVF due to MFI. DOR diagnosis April 2015.

     

    IVF #1 BCPs/Antagonist w/ICSI Jan 2014 = BFN

    IVF #2 MDL w/PICSI March 2014 = BFN

    IVF #3 EPP/Antagonist w/PICSI May/June 2014 = BFP!; MMC 6w4d

    IVF #4 No suppression/Antagonist Nov 2014/Converted to IUI #1 = BFN
    IVF #4.1 Feb 2015 = cancelled
    IVF #4.2 April 2015 - Lupron Stop Protocol with ICSI = PGD testing of embryo indicated it was abnormal
    IVF #5 June 2015 EPP with Antagonist 

     

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  • How soon can you POAS after ET?  I thought I'd read somewhere that it takes the trigger 10 days to get out of your system (so for me, that would be 5dp5dt??)

    This is what I referenced.
    https://www.ivfconnections.com/forums/content.php/673-The-IVF-Two-Week-Wait-(2WW)-If-and-When-to-Do-a-Home-Pregnancy-Test
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    ***Losses mentioned.*** TTC #1 since May 2012. Me: 37, OH: 41. Ectopic August 2012 => tubal damage. :'(  Stage 1 endo removed June 2013. IVF #1 Oct/Nov 2013: Long Lupron with Gonal-F. 7R, 7M, 7F. 2 txfer@3d. Nothing frozen.  => M/C @ 8 wks. :'( Selected RPL panel all normal. Very hyper and brittle response to stims. IVF #2 (antagonist protocol) Feb 2014 => Converted to IUI (Perfect conditions). BFN. IVF #2.1 w/ new RE June 2014: Antagonist protocol. 33R, 31M, 30F, 19 blasts to test!!! I made it through without crashing!! :) Hats off to Dr. Fancypants!! ET of one 5AB blast. BFN. 13 10 CCS'ed snowflakes! FET #1 PUPO as of 7/29 Betas: 8/7@24, 8/9@97, 8/11@334 (etc.) Two sacs on 8/15, one seen on 8/18 after a bleed. U/s 8/25 (6+3) "perfect": 5.9 mm + HB@120bpm! U/s 9/4 (7+6): 15.9 mm + HB@172 bpm! Please, PLEASE stick this time!!!!
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  • Is anyone else doing beta tomorrow?  This has been the hardest day not to test!!  I might not make it, I'm just saying.....
    First natural BFP June 2013
    Ectopic July 2012 with fallopian tube and ovary removal :(

    First IVF (after 1 cancelled cycle) Jan 2014, 
    ER 1/16
    ET 1/21
    Beta 1/31 BFP!
    Beta 2: 400
    Beta 3: 700
    Beta 4: 11,000  
    Beta 5: 45,000
    1st US 2/18:  TWINS!!!  :)
    EDD: 10/10/14
    Delivered via c section 9/17/14, B/G twins


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  • I'm still on bcp for my upcoming cycle, but I can tell you that during my IVF last Summer, I caved and tested. I got a pretty clear bfp on 5dp5dt. However, after that, it started fading. This was still the trigger...so that was 12 days after I triggered. During my iui's I would test out the trigger and got bfp's until 13 or 14dpo. During my FET, I figured I would just pee on everything since I didn't use the trigger. Well, all that did was kill any hope that might have remained during the second half of my 2ww. I was upset to hear a bfn from my nurse, even knowing that is what it was going to be.

    For me, I'd rather have a small ounce of hope during all of the 2ww. So, for our next IVF, we'll be beta or bust for sure. It will be hard, but otherwise, I'll either be depressed because it was negative or second guessing a positive test, thinking it is still my trigger. This is definitely a lose-lose for me!

    But, you can all pee on tests and let me live through you! I love pushing stick peeing to others, just not doing it myself!

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     ttc #2 since 2004 Me (35): Stage 3 Endo, DH (34): High DNA Frag

    IVF/ICSI #2: April 2014: BFP!!!!!!

    ET of 2 great quality embryos. + BFP on 9dp5dt. Beta #1 (10dp5dt): 257, Beta #2 (14dp5dt): 1561,

    Beta #3 (21dp5d5): 8,172. Wow. It seems this is actually working. Shocked beyond belief.

    1st u/s @6w5d: Baby A hb 124, Baby B hb 127 (Both measuring perfectly!)

    Lost baby A. Praying that baby B stays healthy. Baby B hb 175 at 11 weeks

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  • I have found myself obsessed with hpt testing & am not doing it this time!  It is such an emotion swinger watching the HCG shot go away and hoping some little line will come back & then wondering if it will stay or not.  I don't need to watch a chemical pg fade away before a beta test & get all excited to start crying a few days later.......No hpts for us this time! Now let's see if I can stick to it :)
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