I feel like such an asshole for even saying that I have a "frenemy", but I do. She's always tried to "one up" me in everything... which I could care less about to tell you the truth. I just found out she's 8 weeks pregnant with her second... which is how far along I would have been if our IVF would have worked. JAB to the soul. She was complaining that they tried for 3 months. I told her I've been trying for almost 36 months. I'm happy for her... but it still sucks for me. March can't get here soon enough for our next FET.
So now, I'm here drinking whiskey with my husband, listening to records and making funny videos on instagram and fb.
Do you have a frenemy? How do you deal with them?
TTC w/ pcos since 02/11
09/12 lap/hysteroscopy =removal of mass on bladder, possible blocked tubes 12/12 hysteroscopy=tubes clear. uterine septum removed
01/13 fermara step up + iui=cancelled due to no response
02/13 clomid step up + iui=cancelled due to no response 07/13 gonal-f + trigger + b2b iui = bfn 08/13 bravelle(slow response) switched to menopur + trigger + b2b iui = bfn 10/13 - IVF#1 w/ ICIS. ER= 10/29/13 (21R 10F 6 blasts made it to freeze) 11/25/13 - FET #1, transfer 2=bfn 03/03/14 - FET #2, transfer 2 frosties=BFP! beta#1=22, beta#2=43, beta#3=120. Ectopic Pregnancy 6w5d 07/31/14 - FET #3, transfer our last two.
Ugh...frenemies are so difficult. My frenemy situation is a little different as it is the wife of one of my best friends so I have found ways to avoid her most of the time. But I couldn't avoid her knowing things and she has reached out before...which I try to think is well intentioned but it's probably just nosiness. I usually try to only have these conversations with her when I've had a few drinks and then just bitch about it later. The nice thing is that I spend most of my time with all guys and they can't stand her and are more than happy to let me vent. I know that probably isn't too helpful with your situation....But I certainly understand the frustration of a frenemy. Good luck! And you can't go wrong with whiskey, records, and funny videos
Me: 36, unexplained
Him: 36, slightly low count
TTC since May 2011
IUI #1 w/Clomid - 10/2012 BFN
Break for cysts
IUI #2 w/Clomid - 12/2012 BFN
Break for cysts
IUI #3 w/Clomid - 2/2013 BFN
Break for sanity and to work on health with diet, exercise, and acupuncture
After reading your frenemy description, I guess I have one too. I have no idea how to deal especially if she got pregnant. I like your 36 months response
I suppose it's in the nature of my work environment, but this has happened for each of our six cycles. Every time I'd get the official BFN, someone would announce their pregnancy. (I'm a teacher and work with a very young staff). A year later, I've gone through each of their pregnancies with them. I've listened to their complaints and attended their showers. Now, I hold their babies and literally look in the sweet faces of "what could've been."
It sucks. No denying it. I'm just hold onto the fact that all of these incidents will make the moment when we actually do have our BFP that much more meaningful.
Enjoy your whiskey. Maybe even go out...college freshman style. That's always a fun go-to!
Dx: Stage IV Endo & PCOS Lap #1 12/2011 6 Rounds of IVF w/ ICSI: July 2012-July 2013: BFN {Bravelle, Menopur, Ganirelix, Endometrin, Dexemethasone} Lap # 2: 12/2013
I would have a REALLY hard time if my frenemy got pregnant before I did... I have a friend that I've had since college (13 years) and she ALWAYS needs to one-up me or make sure that her life is worse/harder/more stressful then mine. If I had a bad day at work, she had a bad week at work. If I am annoyed at DH for something, she and her husband had the WORST FIGHT IN THE WORLD. When I got engaged, leading up to my wedding, she did not ask one question - not about planning, not about how I was feeling, not ONE question. However, she got engaged about 8 months after I did, and then she had a TON of questions - how much did you pay for this, who are you using for that. She just doesn't care about anything having to do with my life that she's can't one up or that doesn't benefit her. So, I decided that no matter what, I am not telling her about IVF/Infertility. I don't want to hear a made up story about how she can't have kids either, because I don't believe half of what comes out of her mouth.
LOL, sorry to hijack your post, but you asked how we deal... Truly, I made a decision about a year and a half ago (after my wedding) to start distancing myself. We went from seeing each other every couple of weeks to every couple of months and only communicate via phone/text when we're making plans. I just had to take a step back and realize that I DON'T enjoy talking to her and I don't want to spend the limited free time that I have hanging out with her. I feel a little guilty because we've been friends for so long, but I'm hoping that it will just continue to fade out. No drama, no fight, just fade out.
It's hard to deal with people like that. I have had to distance myself from people because they were a drain on my soul. It is okay not to be friends with some people. No matter how long they have been your friend or even if you are forced to see them, you control the friendship. It doesn't make you a bad person to cut your conversations short and avoid them completely if possible. Sometimes toxic people have to go. You have enough to deal with coming from infertility that you don't need others dragging you down.
TTC#1 since 5/2011 DX: Hypothyroidism, PCOS, Myasthenia Gravis, Aplastic Anemia, one copy MTHFR DH SA: count 52% motility (slow progressive), 0% normal morph June-July 2012: Clomid cycles=BFNs August 2012: New RE, started Metformin, Letrozole 7.5mg+TI=BFN Sept. 2012: IUI#1: Letrozole 7.5mg=BFN Oct. 2012: IUI#2 Letrozole 7.5mg+Dexamethasone=BFN Nov '12-March '13 on a break April 2013: IUI#3 Letrozole 7.5mg+Dexamethasone=BFN June 2013: IVF#1 Follistim/Menopur/Ganirelix =BFN, 3 Frosties August 2013: FET#1=BFP 8/20/13, EDD 4/30/13, MMC 10/1/13 December 2013: IVF#2 Follistim/Menopur/Ganirelix=? ~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~
I have one. She sees my life and her life as a direct competition. We set her and her husband up and then they moved into our apt building. Everything was a race. I couldn't keep up - she won of course, she got preg right away even though my husband and I were married for 3 years longer. I had to basically cut them out of my life...keep very limited contact even though our husbands are also colleagues. Argh. They moved to a new neighborhood (where we are moving soon, argh) and have already had their second. Best thing I did though was keep my distance. My life was better for it.
IVF #2. 7/12 - 18 days of stims, 3 mature eggs, 3 fertilized (ICSI), 3 transferred (9, 8, 7 cell) on day 3. First beta - 8/21/12 = 105, beta #2 - 8/23/12 = 268, beta #3 - 8/30/12 = 2,352. 2nd u/s - 9/4/12. Baby Boy born 5/1/2013.
IVF #3 Now (12/13). AMH is very low - 0.19. ER (12/5) 12 eggs, 10 mature, 7 fertilized using ICSI. 3 transferred (8,8,8 cell - all grade 2) on day 3. First beta - 12/21/13 = 126, beta #2 - 12/23/13 = 400, beta #3 - na (office was closed for new year's). First sonogram - TWINS aka OMG! -
I had one of these too! All this girl wanted to know was what I did each weekend so she can go to same restaurants and then act like she discovered it! Then when I asked what she was doing she would always act like she wasn't sure. Needless to say I cut her out! It wasn't a friendship at all- too much competition that it was making me stressed!
Ugh- that is BRUTAL!!! How do I deal with frenemies? Cut them the hell out!!! NOT worth it.
TTC since May 2012 Me: 32 H: 31
DX: MFI-Very Low Count, I have Hashimotos.
IVF prep September 2013 cancelled due to Ovarian Cyst IVF #1 October 2013 Antagonistic Protocol with ICSI ER 10/31/13 (18R 16M 11F- 6 blasts to freeze) ET delayed due to OHSS FET scheduled for July 8. Delayed due to a crazy high TSH (it had been under control for YEARS!) FET #1 8/5/14 sET BFN
Re: Frenemy Rant
Retrieval 9/11/2013 - 31 eggs, 17 fertilized, 3 blasts frozen
I suppose it's in the nature of my work environment, but this has happened for each of our six cycles. Every time I'd get the official BFN, someone would announce their pregnancy. (I'm a teacher and work with a very young staff). A year later, I've gone through each of their pregnancies with them. I've listened to their complaints and attended their showers. Now, I hold their babies and literally look in the sweet faces of "what could've been."
It sucks. No denying it. I'm just hold onto the fact that all of these incidents will make the moment when we actually do have our BFP that much more meaningful.
Enjoy your whiskey. Maybe even go out...college freshman style. That's always a fun go-to!
Lap #1 12/2011
6 Rounds of IVF w/ ICSI: July 2012-July 2013: BFN {Bravelle, Menopur, Ganirelix, Endometrin, Dexemethasone}
Lap # 2: 12/2013
TTC#1 since 5/2011
DX: Hypothyroidism, PCOS, Myasthenia Gravis, Aplastic Anemia, one copy MTHFR DH SA: count 52% motility (slow progressive), 0% normal morph
June-July 2012: Clomid cycles=BFNs
August 2012: New RE, started Metformin, Letrozole 7.5mg+TI=BFN Sept. 2012: IUI#1: Letrozole 7.5mg=BFN
Oct. 2012: IUI#2 Letrozole 7.5mg+Dexamethasone=BFN
Nov '12-March '13 on a break
April 2013: IUI#3 Letrozole 7.5mg+Dexamethasone=BFN
June 2013: IVF#1 Follistim/Menopur/Ganirelix =BFN, 3 Frosties
August 2013: FET#1=BFP 8/20/13, EDD 4/30/13, MMC 10/1/13
December 2013: IVF#2 Follistim/Menopur/Ganirelix=?
~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~
Me: 32 H: 31
IVF #1 October 2013 Antagonistic Protocol with ICSI ER 10/31/13 (18R 16M 11F- 6 blasts to freeze)
ET delayed due to OHSS
FET scheduled for July 8. Delayed due to a crazy high TSH (it had been under control for YEARS!)
FET #1 8/5/14 sET BFN