CIO method is ridiculous. You are teaching your baby (hello! A baby!!) that no matter how much u cry and possibly need me. I will not help you. I will not be there for you. Amazing parenting skills. I wouldnt even do that to my dog. Much less my child. Read brain rules for babies. It talks about all the studies that show the negative effects from CIO.
@kelseyhh and @Linz805 - when you stayed in the room with your babies to let them CIO, did you do this to get rid of MOTN feedings or to get them to fall asleep on their own after a MOTN feeding?
This is exactly the same for us. We did stay with him for MOTN wakings until he fell back asleep but I chose to keep one middle of the night feeding for now which totally works for us compared to 5-7 wakings. The cool thing is that once I decide we are both ready to drop the one feed I think it will be pretty easy. I also nurse him for 10-12 mins and then lay him down awake and he falls right back asleep. Those videos have literally changed our lives. Being able to get both our kids to sleep by 8:15 is huge. And being able to have wine again since I don't have nurse until 3am is amazing.
Edit bc I screwed up the quote on my iPad!
I was in this situation a month ago. We did Ferber. I am really strict about naps during the day now too where as before I wasn't and that has helped a lot for night time sleeping.
She has also been seeing an infant chiropractor and had to go 3 times due to tightness in her back and while Ferber helped with getting her to fall asleep on her own but after the chiropractor she slept 10 hours without waking up and then was back down for another 2-3 after eating. That was after only 2 treatments. This child used to wake up every 2-3 hours so for us this change is huge.
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beckyschell that sounds amazing. Just curious to know if you have ever skipped a treatment, and if you noticed a difference. I suspect my LO could have a tight back too.
Well night one was rough but I suppose it could've been worse.
It started out a little better than I expected (although it was still really hard to hear her cry). Round 1 she cried really hard for 30 mins then fell asleep I thought that was pretty good. I didn't go in her room to check on her during that time. However, 15 mins later she woke up. She cried for another 30 mins (I checked on her once and she screamed like I've never heard her scream ). She fell asleep a few mins past 9pm then woke up at 2:30am.
I let her fuss for just a few mins but I knew she was hungry so I went in to feed her. She ate and was wide awake (normally she falls right back to sleep). I put her down in her crib wide awake and she babbled to herself for about 5 mins then it turned into a whine, then she screamed for 45 mins. I checked on her once during that time and then she fell asleep. She woke up 15-20 mins later and cried for another 20-30 mins and then I picked her up checked her diaper and tried feeding her again.
She ate for about 2 mins and while she was awake she pulled off the boob and fell asleep. I let her sleep in my lap for about 10 mins and then I put her belly down in her crib. She stirred and then fell asleep for another 3.5 hours.
Although it was extremely challenging I definitely saw an improvement already last night. She usually only sleeps for 2 hours at a time so we made progress there. Also, she is usually next to impossible to put back in her crib even when she is dead asleep. No matter how gentle I am I usually wake her up. Last night I didn't even try that hard and she stayed asleep.
beckyschell that sounds amazing. Just curious to know if you have ever skipped a treatment, and if you noticed a difference. I suspect my LO could have a tight back too.
I just finished the last one this week and don't have to go back. So I don't know yet as its only been a few days since her last one. Best money I ever spent.
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I put her down at 7:45pm and she whine-cried in her crib for literally 3 mins and passed out!
She slept for an hour and then woke up. She cried harder this time but it only lasted for 10 mins and then she fell asleep. At about minute 5 I did speak to her briefly over the monitor's microphone. She slept for another hour and then woke up again. This time I only let her cry for 5 mins and then I fed her.
After she ate for a few mins she fell asleep and then I put her tummy down in her crib. She slept from 10:15pm-7:15am with not one wake up! It was amazing!!
I'm so glad we did this even though night one was really tough. Here's hoping night 3 goes smoothly as well. I hope those of you that are trying to sleep train are having a good experience!
@scormier123 - Hi there...curious to know if it is still going well for you too.
I am noticing it is getting harder and harder for me to put my LO down...we are up to like two hours now and it always involves crying even though I am not training him. He just generally won't sleep unless he cries at some point for a few minutes. So, I am pondering CIO because I am thinking that maybe three days of really bad crying would overall be better for him than nightly crying. I am wondering if our nightly crying is like pulling off a band aid really slowly instead of just doing it in one shot.
I was feeling the exact same way when I decided to finally go ahead and do it. Pulling off the band aid is a great comparison!
It's still going great (knock on wood). As I'm laying her in her crib she lets out one big wail of protest, but when she hits the mattress she turns her head to the side and goes to sleep.
The night before last, she actually fell asleep while nursing and I really, really didn't want to mess everything up so I held her upright for a minute until her eyes opened. It sounds mean to wake her but as soon as she laid down... back to sleep.
The first night did take an hour total but she started winding down at about 40 minutes. She would close her eyes and drift off but then would have little outbursts until the 1 hour mark. The 2nd night she winded down at 20 minutes, but had some little outbursts until 35 minutes and the 3rd night she slowed down at 10 minutes and was asleep by 15.
For me, this method ended up being so much easier because she would almost get hysterical when I would start walking away during the Ferber method. I know other babies do better with the check-ins though so it just depends.
She is still waking 3-4 times at night but just being able to put her to bed easily is a HUGE weight lifted off my shoulders. I feel like now that we have this down pat we can start working on tips for less night wakings.
We did 3 Ferber nights so far and I think they were successful. First night total crying was 30 minutes. LO woke up several times that time and we did all the same routine with progressive waiting. We cut out MOTN feedings altogether but I "stuff" him pretty well before the night. Night two - 25 minutes total crying no wake-ups, STTN 8pm to 6 am with occasional whining for 10 seconds. Night three - 15 minutes crying, STTN 8 pm - 6 am with occasional whining for 10 seconds. We'll see how it goes further. It is hard but so worth it!
This is the last update that I'm going to post (since I'm not sure anyone is paying attention anymore lol).
Night 3 went well. It started out with more crying than I expected (because she went down so easily night 2). She cried pretty hard for 30 mins, it was tough. I went in after about 20 mins to talk to her. She calmed down a bit after I left.
She slept about 15-20 mins and then woke up and cried for a few mins, then fell asleep.
She slept from about 8pm-7am.
Although it is really hard to hear her cry, I definitely think we are doing the right thing. Good luck to those of you that are sleep training!
@Boo0512 - Hi Boo. - I am paying attention here! Thanks for posting. It really helps to know that others are going through the sleeping training. It is giving me some fortitude for if and when it is my turn which I think about everyday.
It took me a few weeks to psych myself up to do sleep training which I think was good.
I needed to be mentally ready to let her cry because it was really tough. She is doing great though so I'm really glad we are doing this!
I know it isn't the right thing for everyone but it was right for us. DD was only getting about half the sleep she should've been getting so it was time. Bonus: I got 9 hours of sleep last night--it was amazing!
naps are sooo much harder! we're still working on it, and this is after doing nighttime sleep training like 3 months ago. I'm so glad to hear that your LO is sleeping better! And honestly, I'm jealous of your 8+ hours of continuous sleep! We still don't get that...dammit...
@Boo0512 She slept from 8 pm to 7 am ?!? That is amazing! Even though LO is going to sleep on her own at bedtime, it hasn't affected her night wakings at all She is still up every 2 hours...
@scormier123 Yes, we got lucky. I wonder if it has to do with that fact that previously she slept 11-12 hours at night. She started STTN at about 7 weeks old but when she turned 4 months, everything went to hell.
Last night I put her down at 7:30pm, she cried for 13 mins and fell asleep. She woke up about 2 hours later. I let her cry for 5 mins but I was pretty sure she was hungry so I fed her. I tried to put her down after she fell asleep but she woke up she cried hysterically for about 25 mins and then fell asleep. It sucked. After that she slept from about 10:45pm-7:00am without.any wake ups.
Hi guys, I was doing a little research on CIO, and it appears it is common for nights 2 and 3 to be the worst...so the crying might really start to decrease by night four.
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She has also been seeing an infant chiropractor and had to go 3 times due to tightness in her back and while Ferber helped with getting her to fall asleep on her own but after the chiropractor she slept 10 hours without waking up and then was back down for another 2-3 after eating. That was after only 2 treatments. This child used to wake up every 2-3 hours so for us this change is huge.
that sounds amazing. Just curious to know if you have ever skipped a treatment, and if you noticed a difference. I suspect my LO could have a tight back too.
It started out a little better than I expected (although it was still really hard to hear her cry). Round 1 she cried really hard for 30 mins then fell asleep I thought that was pretty good. I didn't go in her room to check on her during that time. However, 15 mins later she woke up. She cried for another 30 mins (I checked on her once and she screamed like I've never heard her scream
I let her fuss for just a few mins but I knew she was hungry so I went in to feed her. She ate and was wide awake (normally she falls right back to sleep). I put her down in her crib wide awake and she babbled to herself for about 5 mins then it turned into a whine, then she screamed for 45 mins. I checked on her once during that time and then she fell asleep. She woke up 15-20 mins later and cried for another 20-30 mins and then I picked her up checked her diaper and tried feeding her again.
She ate for about 2 mins and while she was awake she pulled off the boob and fell asleep. I let her sleep in my lap for about 10 mins and then I put her belly down in her crib. She stirred and then fell asleep for another 3.5 hours.
Although it was extremely challenging I definitely saw an improvement already last night. She usually only sleeps for 2 hours at a time so we made progress there. Also, she is usually next to impossible to put back in her crib even when she is dead asleep. No matter how gentle I am I usually wake her up. Last night I didn't even try that hard and she stayed asleep.
I'll let you know how night two goes!
I put her down at 7:45pm and she whine-cried in her crib for literally 3 mins and passed out!
She slept for an hour and then woke up. She cried harder this time but it only lasted for 10 mins and then she fell asleep. At about minute 5 I did speak to her briefly over the monitor's microphone. She slept for another hour and then woke up again. This time I only let her cry for 5 mins and then I fed her.
After she ate for a few mins she fell asleep and then I put her tummy down in her crib. She slept from 10:15pm-7:15am with not one wake up! It was amazing!!
I'm so glad we did this even though night one was really tough. Here's hoping night 3 goes smoothly as well. I hope those of you that are trying to sleep train are having a good experience!
Hi there...curious to know if it is still going well for you too.
I am noticing it is getting harder and harder for me to put my LO down...we are up to like two hours now and it always involves crying even though I am not training him. He just generally won't sleep unless he cries at some point for a few minutes. So, I am pondering CIO because I am thinking that maybe three days of really bad crying would overall be better for him than nightly crying. I am wondering if our nightly crying is like pulling off a band aid really slowly instead of just doing it in one shot.
Night 3 went well. It started out with more crying than I expected (because she went down so easily night 2). She cried pretty hard for 30 mins, it was tough. I went in after about 20 mins to talk to her. She calmed down a bit after I left.
She slept about 15-20 mins and then woke up and cried for a few mins, then fell asleep.
She slept from about 8pm-7am.
Although it is really hard to hear her cry, I definitely think we are doing the right thing. Good luck to those of you that are sleep training!
Hi Boo. - I am paying attention here! Thanks for posting. It really helps to know that others are going through the sleeping training. It is giving me some fortitude for if and when it is my turn which I think about everyday.
It took me a few weeks to psych myself up to do sleep training which I think was good.
I needed to be mentally ready to let her cry because it was really tough. She is doing great though so I'm really glad we are doing this!
I know it isn't the right thing for everyone but it was right for us. DD was only getting about half the sleep she should've been getting so it was time. Bonus: I got 9 hours of sleep last night--it was amazing!
I've been trying to get her to sleep around 2 hours total during the day.
Last night I put her down at 7:30pm, she cried for 13 mins and fell asleep. She woke up about 2 hours later. I let her cry for 5 mins but I was pretty sure she was hungry so I fed her. I tried to put her down after she fell asleep but she woke up