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Stupid thin lining. How fast does it grow, and what's ideal for FET?

Hi girls, 

I had my lining check yesterday, a week before our tentatively scheduled FET on 12/16. I have a triple stripe (yay!), but it's 7.4 (thinner than the 8+ they'd like to see at this point). They upped my Estradiol and told me to come back tomorrow morning. Oh, and they said not to start progesterone as planned tomorrow. I really trust our RE and am hoping it'll grow and be better looking tomorrow. Especially since I'm doing acupuncture focused on building the lining. 

But do you know how fast lining typically grows? And what thickness does your REs say is ideal for FET? I haven't paid lining much mind through our previous ART cycles and am finding conflicting info via other boards and Dr. Google. Thanks!

Began TTC #1 in Sept. 2010. I was 33, DH was 36.. Dx with DOR and slight MFI (8/4/11).

Test results (after first RE visit 6/21/11): 7DPO b/w: Progesterone = 11.3; CD3 b/w: FSH = 10.1 mUnits/mL, E2= 52.0 pg/mL, AFC: 6; SIS Ultrasound: Uterus great, tubes clear! AMH: 0.3 

IUI#1 June 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
IUI#2 July 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
IUI#3 August 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): CP (Beta #1: 4.61, Beta #2: 1.0) 
IUI#4 October 2012 (Follistim, ovulated before trigger, missed IUI, converted to TI): BFN 
Jan. 2013 New RE
IVF #1 June 2013 MDL Protocol. Converted to IUI#4.1. (High E2 and 3+ mature follicles at first monitoring.) BFFN
IVF #1.2 August 2013 Stop Lupron Protocol with Human Growth Hormone added. 17R, 14M, 9F (with ICSI), 2 embryos (decent quality - grade 2) transferred on day 3, 2 blasts made it to freeze. Beta 8/26. BFFN :'(

FET #1 December 2013 Last try! Transferred 2 blasts -- graded 3AB and 4BB. Beta #1 (12/27/13) 530. Beta #2 (12/30/13) 1876. BFP! One bean. EDD 9/3/2014!

We welcomed the most beautiful baby girl into the world on September 11, 2014!

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Re: Stupid thin lining. How fast does it grow, and what's ideal for FET?

  • My RE said it has to be 9mm or greater. Mine was 12.5 the week I started the progesterone
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  • I think you are definitely still in the running.   I was taking 6 2mg estrace pills a day for 10 days and had a 10mm lining.   You have another 6 days to keep building it.  I wouldn't be too worried about it yet.
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  • Super helpful, thanks!

    Began TTC #1 in Sept. 2010. I was 33, DH was 36.. Dx with DOR and slight MFI (8/4/11).

    Test results (after first RE visit 6/21/11): 7DPO b/w: Progesterone = 11.3; CD3 b/w: FSH = 10.1 mUnits/mL, E2= 52.0 pg/mL, AFC: 6; SIS Ultrasound: Uterus great, tubes clear! AMH: 0.3 

    IUI#1 June 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
    IUI#2 July 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
    IUI#3 August 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): CP (Beta #1: 4.61, Beta #2: 1.0) 
    IUI#4 October 2012 (Follistim, ovulated before trigger, missed IUI, converted to TI): BFN 
    Jan. 2013 New RE
    IVF #1 June 2013 MDL Protocol. Converted to IUI#4.1. (High E2 and 3+ mature follicles at first monitoring.) BFFN
    IVF #1.2 August 2013 Stop Lupron Protocol with Human Growth Hormone added. 17R, 14M, 9F (with ICSI), 2 embryos (decent quality - grade 2) transferred on day 3, 2 blasts made it to freeze. Beta 8/26. BFFN :'(

    FET #1 December 2013 Last try! Transferred 2 blasts -- graded 3AB and 4BB. Beta #1 (12/27/13) 530. Beta #2 (12/30/13) 1876. BFP! One bean. EDD 9/3/2014!

    We welcomed the most beautiful baby girl into the world on September 11, 2014!

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  • I think you have plenty of time to build that lining still.  I'll be a week away from my FET tomorrow and my lining was barely a 5 on Monday (I go back in tomorrow).  But this is actually good for me.  I've been on 12+ mg of estrodial daily (oral, vaginal and topical) and I'm maxed out.  My estrodiol levels are actual >4,000 last Friday, so they worried about my liver and I stopped the oral pills.  I'm still hoping not to be cancelled, but I was already cancelled in August due to my lining and it looks to be that way this month.  Saying that, since my lining has never been over a 7.5, they will let me transer if it's over a 6.  People do get pregnant with thinner linings, but of course you have a better chance with it being thicker.  Good luck!

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    IVF #1 March 2013, freeze all (OHSS).

    FET#1 June: BFN

    FET#2 August: delayed due to thin lining (6.3).  Took a few months off to try and thicken the lining with lots of estrodial.  FET#2.2 December: Cancelled due to thin lining (4.8). Two frosties left.

    *New RE* Sonohystrogram and hystereoscopy done in Feb.

    IVF #2: ER 3/4/14  ET 3/7/14, transferred 3, 3 day 9 cell perfect embryos.  No frosties.

    Beta #1 (14dp3dt) 504

    Beta #2 (21dp3dt) 11,561

    First ultrasound on 4/3/14 showed 3 sacs: one empty and two with beating hearts!!  At 7w2d, found out that one baby did not have a heartbeat anymore.  Praying that baby B makes it.  Baby B is a girl!

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  • I believe a 6mm is the minimum for transfer, but they like to see it at a 7mm before going to progesterone. I know once you start the PIO the lining thins out a little, so I understand why they are waiting for you to start. Good luck!
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  • So fascinating! Love the knowledge on this board. Thanks. I think I'll ask about Viagra tomorrow.

    Began TTC #1 in Sept. 2010. I was 33, DH was 36.. Dx with DOR and slight MFI (8/4/11).

    Test results (after first RE visit 6/21/11): 7DPO b/w: Progesterone = 11.3; CD3 b/w: FSH = 10.1 mUnits/mL, E2= 52.0 pg/mL, AFC: 6; SIS Ultrasound: Uterus great, tubes clear! AMH: 0.3 

    IUI#1 June 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
    IUI#2 July 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
    IUI#3 August 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): CP (Beta #1: 4.61, Beta #2: 1.0) 
    IUI#4 October 2012 (Follistim, ovulated before trigger, missed IUI, converted to TI): BFN 
    Jan. 2013 New RE
    IVF #1 June 2013 MDL Protocol. Converted to IUI#4.1. (High E2 and 3+ mature follicles at first monitoring.) BFFN
    IVF #1.2 August 2013 Stop Lupron Protocol with Human Growth Hormone added. 17R, 14M, 9F (with ICSI), 2 embryos (decent quality - grade 2) transferred on day 3, 2 blasts made it to freeze. Beta 8/26. BFFN :'(

    FET #1 December 2013 Last try! Transferred 2 blasts -- graded 3AB and 4BB. Beta #1 (12/27/13) 530. Beta #2 (12/30/13) 1876. BFP! One bean. EDD 9/3/2014!

    We welcomed the most beautiful baby girl into the world on September 11, 2014!

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  • 5 days before I started progesterone my lining was a 6. They upped my estrace to 3x a day, wanting 7 to start the progesterone. It was 8 by that Fri and thay were happy with that.
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    IUI w Clomid fail 9/13
    started first IVF cycle Menopur and Follistim 10/13
    ER 11/4/13
    13 E 8 fertilized 
    5dt 1 blast 5 frozen 11/9/13. 9 day wait w progesterone (Crinone gel) 11/18 BFP! 30 11/20 down to 10 11/22 MC confirmed. 12/11-FET # 1: 2 5 day blasts 12/20: BFP! Beta 1: 396 12/23: Beta 2:1666 12/30: first u/s: twins! 1/7: baby a heartbeat: 117bpm baby b: slower development, heart's beating but too small to hear it.
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  • KatelynSMeyer Interesting, that's good to hear. And @poohniki, that makes sense about waiting to start progesterone until my lining is a certain thickness. Just got back from a second monitoring, and my lining is now 8.5 (and 8.9 at the thickest point). So, a little over 1mm growth in two days. Now to wait for them to call and let me know what they actually wanted to see! 

    Thanks again, ladies, for sharing your experiences and knowledge.  

    Began TTC #1 in Sept. 2010. I was 33, DH was 36.. Dx with DOR and slight MFI (8/4/11).

    Test results (after first RE visit 6/21/11): 7DPO b/w: Progesterone = 11.3; CD3 b/w: FSH = 10.1 mUnits/mL, E2= 52.0 pg/mL, AFC: 6; SIS Ultrasound: Uterus great, tubes clear! AMH: 0.3 

    IUI#1 June 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
    IUI#2 July 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): BFN 
    IUI#3 August 2012 (Follistim/HCG trigger): CP (Beta #1: 4.61, Beta #2: 1.0) 
    IUI#4 October 2012 (Follistim, ovulated before trigger, missed IUI, converted to TI): BFN 
    Jan. 2013 New RE
    IVF #1 June 2013 MDL Protocol. Converted to IUI#4.1. (High E2 and 3+ mature follicles at first monitoring.) BFFN
    IVF #1.2 August 2013 Stop Lupron Protocol with Human Growth Hormone added. 17R, 14M, 9F (with ICSI), 2 embryos (decent quality - grade 2) transferred on day 3, 2 blasts made it to freeze. Beta 8/26. BFFN :'(

    FET #1 December 2013 Last try! Transferred 2 blasts -- graded 3AB and 4BB. Beta #1 (12/27/13) 530. Beta #2 (12/30/13) 1876. BFP! One bean. EDD 9/3/2014!

    We welcomed the most beautiful baby girl into the world on September 11, 2014!

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