However, if you're thinking about using it I would seriously reconsider. Kohen is a Jewish priest and therefore it has significant importance within the religion.
Co-en. Pretty straight forward.
However, if you're thinking about using it I would seriously reconsider. Kohen is a Jewish priest and therefore it has significant importance within the religion.
Well, it would only have significance if you're Jewish. Otherwise, you just like the name.
However, if you're thinking about using it I would seriously reconsider. Kohen is a Jewish priest and therefore it has significant importance within the religion.
Well, it would only have significance if you're Jewish. Otherwise, you just like the name.
---- It still has significance and it's cultural appropriation from a historically marginalized group.
And in Hebrew, you pronounce the "h."
ETA: It's like naming your kid Mohammed or Jesus because you "just like the name."
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I'll have to look for the thread from last week on this--anyone remember what it was called? Very enlightening to me, and might be to others as well. I had no idea how sacred the word is in Judaism. Off to search....
Co-en. Pretty straight forward.
However, if you're thinking about using it I would seriously reconsider. Kohen is a Jewish priest and therefore it has significant importance within the religion.
Well, it would only have significance if you're Jewish. Otherwise, you just like the name.
Using the name Cohen just because you like the sound of it is rather
offensive to many of the Jewish faith because it is such a sacred word.
Much like the Victoria Secret model walking down the runway in
underwear and a tribal headdress was offensive to those Native Americans
who view the headdress as sacred.
I don't view these things as equal. In my limited understanding of the Jewish faith, perhaps I don't understand the significance of naming your child Cohen. Perhaps akin to naming your child Messiah or Christ or Jesus... I'm not very religious, so that's probably why it doesn't resonate with me.
Also, I honestly do understand an initial reaction of "oh, I don't get it." But then, people are telling you it is offensive, and you might want to look into it (not directly at you personally ClaireHux, just happens to be you in this thread). Not being Jewish or religious is a silly reason not to understand something. Certainly people understand the offensive nature of things that don't directly pertain to them.
I'll have to look for the thread from last week on this--anyone remember what it was called? Very enlightening to me, and might be to others as well. I had no idea how sacred the word is in Judaism. Off to search....
oops... was this name specifically asked about last week? sorry I missed that!
I'll have to look for the thread from last week on this--anyone remember what it was called? Very enlightening to me, and might be to others as well. I had no idea how sacred the word is in Judaism. Off to search....
oops... was this name specifically asked about last week? sorry I missed that!
That's ok! There are a lot of threads on here, easily gets pushed to another page!
Regarding significance and controversy - really I have never even heard that this was an issue or controversial name. So, I would not have researched it on my own - or known to research it. You learn many things on the internet. I now consider myself schooled.
I also was unaware of the controversy. Good info in the other thread, thanks again. I have a couple friends who used this name for their baby and I just wondered the correct pronunciation. Sigh. The ignorant insensitivity is unsettling.
I've asked a few Jewish friends about this Cohen controversy and they said it was really no big deal for anyone to use the name. They are "moderately observant" (bar/bat mitzvah, birthright trip etc but ok with having a Christmas tree for their SO and non-kosher foods). Just to give context to their opinion.
Just wanted to jump in here: My sister-in-law named her first son Coen and they aren't Jewish. She gets comments about it all the time. I might be the area she lives in, because I'm sure there are people with the name who have never gotten comments about it, but when she is out in public and people ask his name, a lot of people say "Oh, I didn't know you were Jewish" and some are greatly offended when she says they aren't. Some back off because of the spelling change [no "h"] but others are very offended. At first I thought she was over-reacting when she told me this, but I took him out for an afternoon a few months ago and even I received a few comments. Not everyone is offended, and she does get some compliments on the name, but she has gotten a lot of flack. But again, that could just be the area she lives in. I don't post here often, but I wanted to share to those who say "most people won't care" - I think you need to seriously look at the neighbourhood/area you live in before you say that. Some people do care. A lot. It might surprise you.
Re: Pronunciation of Cohen
However, if you're thinking about using it I would seriously reconsider. Kohen is a Jewish priest and therefore it has significant importance within the religion.
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It still has significance and it's cultural appropriation from a historically marginalized group.
And in Hebrew, you pronounce the "h."
ETA: It's like naming your kid Mohammed or Jesus because you "just like the name."
oops... was this name specifically asked about last week? sorry I missed that!
@irishcurls - no worries - the more you know!
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My sister-in-law named her first son Coen and they aren't Jewish. She gets comments about it all the time. I might be the area she lives in, because I'm sure there are people with the name who have never gotten comments about it, but when she is out in public and people ask his name, a lot of people say "Oh, I didn't know you were Jewish" and some are greatly offended when she says they aren't. Some back off because of the spelling change [no "h"] but others are very offended.
At first I thought she was over-reacting when she told me this, but I took him out for an afternoon a few months ago and even I received a few comments. Not everyone is offended, and she does get some compliments on the name, but she has gotten a lot of flack.
But again, that could just be the area she lives in.
I don't post here often, but I wanted to share to those who say "most people won't care" - I think you need to seriously look at the neighbourhood/area you live in before you say that. Some people do care. A lot. It might surprise you.