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Let's get this show on the road...in December.

We have a plan!

We had an appt. with our RE today. I had at least two dozen questions for him, and he very patiently answered them all. I am excited to have a plan, though I realize that it is ridiculous to already get excited for a cycle which is three months away. DH has to be on FSH for at least three months, so I guess there is no way around it. (Why does sperm production have to take so darn long?! :/I am trying to restrain myself from getting too excited, because I know that chances of it working the first time around are low, but it's really hard!

Our RE says that we have about a 20% chance with each embryo, so 40%. I feel like this seems pretty low and asked about that, but he was skeptical of higher numbers, saying that it is difficult to say what exactly is being calculated. He also said that they aim for 8 to 12 eggs with 15 eggs being the max and he thinks we would have about 50% fertilitzation. Does this sound right you all? I know things are done a little differently here and people tend to be more cautious/reserved/pessimistic, but it just seemed really low. 

The RE was nice enough to indulge my neuroses and agreed that we would freeze some of DH sperm just in case, even though he doesn't think that it is all that worthwhile since there are so few, and also agreed that I would have the check-up ultrasound/mock transfer next week before DH starts hormone treatments. I guess I am being paranoid, but I have had such bad luck in the past couple of years that I don't want to wait until a couple weeks before I start stims see whether or not everything is anatomically okay on my side. I never really been one to like surprises (good or bad) and I certainly don't want a surprise like, "Oh, your uterus is shaped wrong" or something right before we are to get started. 

It's funny, because I was a little down after the appointment, feeling like the RE didn't really have all that much positive to say, but DH got exactly the opposite message, saying afterwards that it was great to see that the RE is so hopeful. I am going to chalk it up to cultural/language differences and hope that DH (who is from here) correctly sensed a optimistic subtext, which I just missed altogether. 

Me: 28, DH: 35
DX: Severe MFI, AZFc Microdeletion
TTC since August 2011
IVF w/ ICSI 1: Dec. 2013 - BFN
FET 1.2: Mar. 2014 - BFN
FET 1.3: May 2014 - BFN
FET 1.4: June 2014 - BFP
Two little buns in the oven. 
Bake until March 2015, little ones. 


"Life will be clearer around me.
 Life will be more burdensome for me. 
Life will be richer for me." 
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Re: Let's get this show on the road...in December.

  • And again, I suck at keeping things short. 

    Me: 28, DH: 35
    DX: Severe MFI, AZFc Microdeletion
    TTC since August 2011
    IVF w/ ICSI 1: Dec. 2013 - BFN
    FET 1.2: Mar. 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.3: May 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.4: June 2014 - BFP
    Two little buns in the oven. 
    Bake until March 2015, little ones. 


    "Life will be clearer around me.
     Life will be more burdensome for me. 
    Life will be richer for me." 
    -Rudolf Steiner
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  • Glad you have a plan and December will be here before you know it!  I'm going in today for my plan and nervous that my RE might want to wait until Nov/Dec to build up my lining (I have lining issues).  Yes it sucks to wait that long, but the RE knows what is best and with my dealing with IVF, time does fly and you will be cycling before you know it. 

    50% fertilization rate I would say is normal, although it varies from everyone's experience.  My rate was only 22%, but I had 37 eggs, so still came away with 8 fertilized, 4 making it to freeze (no frest transfer due to OHSS). 

    Good luck!!

     

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    TTC since 9/2011. DH - 32, me 32.

    IUI#1 (natural): BFN; IUI#2 (clomid): BFN; IUI#3 (clomid and follistim): BFN.

    IVF #1 March 2013, freeze all (OHSS).

    FET#1 June: BFN

    FET#2 August: delayed due to thin lining (6.3).  Took a few months off to try and thicken the lining with lots of estrodial.  FET#2.2 December: Cancelled due to thin lining (4.8). Two frosties left.

    *New RE* Sonohystrogram and hystereoscopy done in Feb.

    IVF #2: ER 3/4/14  ET 3/7/14, transferred 3, 3 day 9 cell perfect embryos.  No frosties.

    Beta #1 (14dp3dt) 504

    Beta #2 (21dp3dt) 11,561

    First ultrasound on 4/3/14 showed 3 sacs: one empty and two with beating hearts!!  At 7w2d, found out that one baby did not have a heartbeat anymore.  Praying that baby B makes it.  Baby B is a girl!

    EDD 11/25/14 BORN 11/29/14

    **PAIF/anyone welcomed to comment!!  Thank you.


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  • Sounds like you have a great plan moving forward. I am sorry you will have to wait, but hopefully that time will help out your H's numbers! That will also give you plenty of time to get your head in the game for your cycle. It will be here before you know it!

    Can I ask where you are living now? I'm being a nosey nelly, but I am just curious ;)
    Me: 37, DH: 35 :: TCC since 2/11 SA: Perfect! CD3  HSG = Blocked Right Tube
    April- Femara 2.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN   May- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN
    June- Femara 7.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN  August- Lap & Hysteroscopy = Blocked & Partially Blocked Tubes
    September- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN  October- 100mg Clomid + Trigger + TI = BFN
    IVF # 1: Stims 11/30 ER 12/12/12! (10R, 10M, 8F, 2T, 6 F) :: Beta #1- 176  c/p @ 4w4d
    FET #1 February 26th :: Lost 4 to Thaw, Transferred 2 = BFFN
    IVF # 2 Stims 5/10 ER 5/21 (15R, 13M, 13F, 2T, 7F- 6d3 & 1d5) :: Beta # 1- 15 c/p @ 4w
    FET #2 Cancelled, Right Tube Developed a Hydro  8/28 Hydro & Scar Tissue Removed  Cleared for FET
    FET #2.2 Scheduled for September 20th
    2 Thawed, 2 Transferred! Beta #1- 96, Beta #2 906! :: EDD June 10th
    2015- 2 failed FET. We are done
    SURPRISE! BFP 8/8/16   EDD 4/1/17

     
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  • I am in Sw.it.zer.land. (and paranoid, obviously ;), but it is just so small here), but sometimes I feel like I live in the stone age. 

    I sure hope it goes by quickly. I feel like I've been waiting around for a long time now, just hanging out here. 

    Me: 28, DH: 35
    DX: Severe MFI, AZFc Microdeletion
    TTC since August 2011
    IVF w/ ICSI 1: Dec. 2013 - BFN
    FET 1.2: Mar. 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.3: May 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.4: June 2014 - BFP
    Two little buns in the oven. 
    Bake until March 2015, little ones. 


    "Life will be clearer around me.
     Life will be more burdensome for me. 
    Life will be richer for me." 
    -Rudolf Steiner
  • Ah, I see! I've heard that the regulations over there are different than the states! I think aiming for about 10 - 15 eggs isn't a bad thing. We got 10 my first fresh cycle, 15 the second time around. I got lucky and had great maturity, hopefully you will too!
    Me: 37, DH: 35 :: TCC since 2/11 SA: Perfect! CD3  HSG = Blocked Right Tube
    April- Femara 2.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN   May- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN
    June- Femara 7.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN  August- Lap & Hysteroscopy = Blocked & Partially Blocked Tubes
    September- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN  October- 100mg Clomid + Trigger + TI = BFN
    IVF # 1: Stims 11/30 ER 12/12/12! (10R, 10M, 8F, 2T, 6 F) :: Beta #1- 176  c/p @ 4w4d
    FET #1 February 26th :: Lost 4 to Thaw, Transferred 2 = BFFN
    IVF # 2 Stims 5/10 ER 5/21 (15R, 13M, 13F, 2T, 7F- 6d3 & 1d5) :: Beta # 1- 15 c/p @ 4w
    FET #2 Cancelled, Right Tube Developed a Hydro  8/28 Hydro & Scar Tissue Removed  Cleared for FET
    FET #2.2 Scheduled for September 20th
    2 Thawed, 2 Transferred! Beta #1- 96, Beta #2 906! :: EDD June 10th
    2015- 2 failed FET. We are done
    SURPRISE! BFP 8/8/16   EDD 4/1/17

     
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  • 50% was my rate. I had 11 retrieved, 8 mature and 4 fertilized.
    I think even with a few sperm it is good to have a back up. Day of pressure was tough on DH. :-)
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    TTC since 3/2011 Adenomyosis, LPD, hypothyroidism. 
    BFP on 7/20/12 after 4 cycles Clomid + IUI 
    2 large subchorionic hematomas & no heartbeat at 7w6d   
    D&E 8/18/12 Sonohysterography found septum and necrotic tissue.   
    Hysteroscopy to remove both 10/5
    IUI #5-7 50mg Clomid + trigger = BFN  
    IUI #8 Femara + Bravelle + HCG + Progesterone = BFP 3/27/13
    Beta 1 (13dpo) = 169  Beta 2 (17dpo) = 1073  No heartbeat at 9w3d. 
    D & C 5/10/13  Triploidy 69 (paternal inherited)
    IVF #1 with ICSI and PGS 11R 8M 5F 2 biopsied/frozen
    PGS results = 1 with trisomy 13 & 1 good embryo for FET 
    FET #1 EV, estrace, nitro patches.  Cancelled due to thin lining
    FET #1.2 oral estrace, f'ing nitro patches and no delestrogen.  Transfer 12/31. BFN
    PAIF/SAIF welcome
    Surprise BFP on 6/13/14  Our only unmedicated bfp ever.
    Beta #1 339  Beta #2 649 44 hour doubling time
  • Neesey said:
    50% was my rate. I had 11 retrieved, 8 mature and 4 fertilized. I think even with a few sperm it is good to have a back up. Day of pressure was tough on DH. :-)
    Yes, that's my line of thought, too. I don't want DH to have any issues with performance anxiety. ;)

    Me: 28, DH: 35
    DX: Severe MFI, AZFc Microdeletion
    TTC since August 2011
    IVF w/ ICSI 1: Dec. 2013 - BFN
    FET 1.2: Mar. 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.3: May 2014 - BFN
    FET 1.4: June 2014 - BFP
    Two little buns in the oven. 
    Bake until March 2015, little ones. 


    "Life will be clearer around me.
     Life will be more burdensome for me. 
    Life will be richer for me." 
    -Rudolf Steiner
  • Yay for a plan!

    TTC#1 since April 2011
    IVF#1 July 2012 5R, 3 made it to blast, sET c/p
    FET#1 Aug 2012 2 blasts transferred BFN
    IVF#2 Oct 2012
    16R/6M/6F/2-8 cell grade 1 transfer
    Beta 1-237.9, Beta 2-566, Beta 3-8657
    US 6w3d shows one baby w/ HB 115
    US 7w1d no more heartbeat/ D&C 11/30/12 normal karyotype
    IVF#3 Mar 2013
    6R/4M/4F 1 compacting and 2-8 cell transfer
    ectopic pg MTX given 3 month break from TTC

    IVF#4 Sept 2013--BFN
    IVF#5-7 Apr 2014, Jun 2014 and Aug 2014 banking embryos for CCS testing. Praying for normals! Image and video hosting by TinyPic imageimage

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  • Plans are good!! Now, use these 3 months to de-stress and know it will all be worked out in December. 

     

     


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