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~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~ 4/21

~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~

Welcome! This is a check-in for moms who are/were on a dairy free and/or soy free diet due to their LO's intolerance. The check-ins will be posted every Monday morning on the Breastfeeding board and XP'd to the Food Allergy board. If you'd like to join the group, just post an intro here and dive in! To check out the archive of our previous check-ins, please see the MSPI Moms Blog (www.mspimoms.blogspot.com).

1. How are you doing? How is your LO doing?

2. Have you struggled with keeping your supply up while on the MSPI diet? What are some good calorie-dense foods you've found you can eat?

3. Any other burning questions you'd like answered or experiences to share?

Re: ~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~ 4/21

  • ~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~

    Welcome! This is a check-in for moms who are/were on a dairy free and/or soy free diet due to their LO's intolerance. The check-ins will be posted every Monday morning on the Breastfeeding board and XP'd to the Food Allergy board. If you'd like to join the group, just post an intro here and dive in! To check out the archive of our previous check-ins, please see the MSPI Moms Blog (www.mspimoms.blogspot.com).

    1. How are you doing? How is your LO doing? Good but not great. Up until a few days ago I had been avoiding obvious soy, and off dairy for the last 4 weeks. Well I found some awesome gluten free pretzels (soy) and DS has been super gassy/fussy and last night had a mucousy green, blood speckled poo:( my DH doesn't think it's the soy, but I do???? Idk maybe teething poops?? Halp!!!!!

    2. Have you struggled with keeping your supply up while on the MSPI diet? What are some good calorie-dense foods you've found you can eat? Nope! I eat all.the.time I have super nursing hungries. My fav thing right now is Kirkland brand cashew clusters.

    3. Any other burning questions you'd like answered or experiences to share? Nope!!


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  • @Tmgs2013 it sounds like soy! 


  • 1. How are you doing? How is your LO doing?  We are both good.  I have an appt with the GI this week, and I am excited to hopefully get some questions answered. 

    2. Have you struggled with keeping your supply up while on the MSPI diet? What are some good calorie-dense foods you've found you can eat?  I did/do eat a ton of junk.  LO is four months this week, and so I will stop worrying so much about keeping it up.  I eat a ton of dark chocolate, avocados, and chips. 

    3. Any other burning questions you'd like answered or experiences to share?  Not this week.


  • 1. We are doing well this week. I was dreading the Easter buffet @‌ my inlaws but everything was labeled!

    2. My supply is fine. I'm even pumping better than I used to do. Costco sells a salsa like product called cowboy caviar. Its made up of different beans. I use it as salsa or toss with pasta to make a pasta salad.
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  • 1. Lo is doing better! Our poop is almost always yellowy! And she is a much happier baby!
    2. I eat Stacy's pita chips and guacamole. My supply has been ok, but sometimes I'm having a hard time "feeling full". I have been eating a ton of roasted veggies with rice- I love them!
    3. Lo is extremely sensitive to soy- and reacts to all beans, hummus, cauliflower, etc. anyone else have this?
    Hope everyone has a good week!
  • 1.  We're doing okay.  LO is almost 8 months so now that he is eating solids too, I'm less sure when there's a reaction if it's something he ate or something I ate.  He also just started not pooping every day which I'm thinking is related to the solids.  
    2.  Supply seems fine but I'm always hungry.  Chicken sausage from Trader Joe's helps give me some protein in the mornings.  Fruit smoothies (orange juice, frozen mango, and bananas) also help fill me.
    3.  anyone needing their chocolate fix, I made this chocolate cake recipe from MSPI Mama for Easter and it was good.  
  • @Jackapatamus‌ My DS reacted strongly when I ate cabbage (same family as cauliflower), and got a little rashy/gassy when he ate chick peas. Like everything else, he gradually outgrew it.
  • 1. How are you doing? How is your LO doing? We are doing good. DD2 is still recovering skin wise from my attempt to bring eggs back. I brought peanuts in last week and haven't seen any major change to her comfort or diapers. Yay! Now to try out almonds. Poops are still mucousy but I really believe we've gotten as close to normal as we're going to get in that department. So, we are now dairy, soy, egg and beef free.

    2. Have you struggled with keeping your supply up while on the MSPI diet? What are some good calorie-dense foods you've found you can eat? No supply dip yet. I'm pretty excited to be working nuts into my diet. The only thing that makes me feel full these days is rice pasta - definitely dense, lol.

    3. Any other burning questions you'd like answered or experiences to share? When it's time to experiment with soy (I'm not ready yet), how do I do that? Eat something with soy lecithin? I guess I've been careful to remove it that I'm not sure the best/easiest way to try it out, when it's time.

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  • @RingOfFire11‌ I started eating trace amounts of soy, so potential hidden soy, soy oil, and soy lecithin. We've talked about how to reintro soy in past check ins, if you check the archives you should be able to find the posts.
  • I need your opinions ladies! 
    With DD1 who was MSPI I started introducing food at 6 months with mostly no problems.  She got hives twice (after she had outgrown MSPI) from eating out at restaurants, but we never figured out what actually caused them.  She is 2.5 now, and the only thing we have purposely stayed away from is shell fish.
    Now with DD2 we are dairy, soy, egg and wheat free.  DD2 is 4 months.  Today at the GI I told him about what happened when I tried a small amount of wheat (while I was nursing her she had a BM, and then 10 minutes later again, and then 10 minutes later again with all blood stringing through it) and he said that for that kind of reaction to happen is rare.  I find it odd because it was the most amount of blood I had ever seen in her diaper, and it was such a small amount.  Anyways he said he wanted to stress how important it is to start introducing foods when she is ready because of working those muscles etc...and then he commented a few times about how oral she is (her hands are always in her mouth) and how that is a sign for her being ready.  With DD1 I waited until 6 months because with the MSPI I was just a bit more nervous to introduce foods.  My plan had been to do the same for DD2, but now I am second guessing myself.  I am just nervous of her having more reactions to foods, but then again I don't want to hold her back if she is ready for solids.  Ughh.  What did you guys do?  Did you wait until 6 months even if you thought your child was ready before? 
  • ~*~*MSPI Moms Weekly Check-In*~*~

    Welcome! This is a check-in for moms who are/were on a dairy free and/or soy free diet due to their LO's intolerance. The check-ins will be posted every Monday morning on the Breastfeeding board and XP'd to the Food Allergy board. If you'd like to join the group, just post an intro here and dive in! To check out the archive of our previous check-ins, please see the MSPI Moms Blog (www.mspimoms.blogspot.com).

    1. How are you doing? How is your LO doing?
    We are doing ok..I am on my third week of cutting out dairy and all obvious sources of soy (I'd like to get in to the pedi next week so she can recheck a poo sample and see before cutting all soy) the only symptoms LO has had are green mucous-y poos and sometimes has fussed while nursing, arching back, etc. we have seen improvement with less frequent diaper blow outs, and her tummy seems to be bothering her less overall. I don't know ...I guess I just want a firm answer on whether the dairy free is really helping and will continue to improve

    2. Have you struggled with keeping your supply up while on the MSPI diet? What are some good calorie-dense foods you've found you can eat? It's been easier than I thought, but again I haven't entirely cut out soy yet . Peanut butter is a favorite! Love it

    3. Any other burning questions you'd like answered or experiences to share?i guess this is a better question for her pedi, but is it not unusual that our LO only has a couple of symptoms ? Is there anything else it could be other than a food aversion/mspi? I've been doing more research on it and she is not displaying so many common symptoms- she is not what I would call an overly fussy baby, she has no rash issues, no reflux or vomiting...any insight here?

  • @camedowncrushing I would not worry about giving her solids at all at this age! Just because her hands are always in her mouth doesn't mean she's ready to start eating solids. Lots of babies are "very oral". If you really want to test it out you could just try some rice cereal and see if she still has the tongue thrust reflex (which I'm guessing is highly likely). 4 mo is still really young for solids IMO.
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    Late to the party but hi, ladies!
    1. This week was going pretty well, but then today LO had more bright red blood in his poo. I'm so frustrated! I've been dairy and soy free for about four weeks. UGH! I hate this so much. LO is still sleeping fine and acting like his normal happy self but I still feel like this isn't right. He shouldn't have blood in his stool like this.

    2. Luckily my supply has been consistent throughout this period.

    3. I'm debating between cutting out eggs next or going full elimination and starting from scratch. DH still doesn't believe that LO has an intolerance but that I'm just nuts, which makes this even more difficult. I'm just feeling so disheartened.
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  • Hello everyone. 1) Not so great. I've been dairy/soy free for 4.5 weeks and no change in stools. In fact am now seeing small flecks of blood. I just took a sample in to be tested this morning and it was negative but just now had a poopy diaper with many red flecks, the few times before this I had only seen a few per diaper. Waiting to hear back from the doctor. Had been planning to go wheat free next but now I'm wondering if maybe nuts are the problem. Last two days I had a peanut noodle dish and cashew korma. How long does it usually take to see a reaction from the time you consume an offending food? Would you suggest avoiding coconut as well? It was also present in the cashew dish. Thanks
  • @caloneis That is a bummer. Did the pedi check for anal fissures? If he just has an irritated bum that can get red blood into a diaper also. You might try peanuts next (rather than all nuts) if it seems like the blood might be correlated with that. Anecdotally it seems like it can take 1 to 2 days to see a reaction in LO from something you ate. I hope things get better for you soon! I did have to avoid coconut but it just seemed to give him diaper rash (and me plugged ducts, ugh), not blood or mucous.

    @JennOH85 Ugh, that is frustrating! It is so hard when you don't have supportive people around you too. You are not nuts! Though it can often feel that way when dealing with food intolerances. :) It is up to you what you do next, but I would recommend trying eggs next rather than TED, just because a TED is very hard, and if your LO is doing relatively ok except for the poop it might not be worth the difficulty.

    @MissusPearson I'm assuming you looked into the possibility of oversupply? That, especially together with a forceful letdown, can cause discomfort for LO while nursing and the green mucousy poop. I think that also often causes frothy poop. That being said, it does seem like the MSPI symptoms run the gamut from lots of different ones to just a few. Also for my DS, the symptoms varied over time. He didn't have any rash issues when he was a little baby, that was more when he was 9-15 mo. So I think it really varies from kid to kid, food to food, and over time!

    GL to everyone!!

  • Thanks, @rocknrollfriend‌ I'm going to cut out eggs and if there's no change after that I'll try wheat. It's just so hard because no one I know IRL has had any of these problems and it's tough to be patient when you're still seeing symptoms in LO. I should count my blessings that we aren't having other symptoms still, though the blood is what troubled me the most from the beginning.

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  • @camedowncrushing I would not worry about giving her solids at all at this age! Just because her hands are always in her mouth doesn't mean she's ready to start eating solids. Lots of babies are "very oral". If you really want to test it out you could just try some rice cereal and see if she still has the tongue thrust reflex (which I'm guessing is highly likely). 4 mo is still really young for solids IMO.
    Thanks.  I feel the same way, and I was taken aback by him suggesting starting solids now.  It is nice to know I am not alone. 
  • I have another question for you ladies. So as of right now we are dairy free, and obvious soy free. I don't eat gluten for myself and have been gluten free for years now. Pregnancy seemed to make my food allergies 10x worse, and now (it seems) LO has all my intolerances. 

    For example before pregnancy I could tolerate some dairy (cheese, yogurt) some soy although it made me bloated, and if I had just a little gluten it wasn't the end of the world. Now even after having DS I can't have any of it (besides the soy, that I'm strangely fine with).

    So we are at the stage of starting solids and are mostly doing BLW. Do I try gluten? I wasn't planning on doing any meats/breads until after he gets the hang of veggies and fruits. What would you guys do?
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  • Tmgs2013 said:
    I have another question for you ladies. So as of right now we are dairy free, and obvious soy free. I don't eat gluten for myself and have been gluten free for years now. Pregnancy seemed to make my food allergies 10x worse, and now (it seems) LO has all my intolerances. 

    For example before pregnancy I could tolerate some dairy (cheese, yogurt) some soy although it made me bloated, and if I had just a little gluten it wasn't the end of the world. Now even after having DS I can't have any of it (besides the soy, that I'm strangely fine with).

    So we are at the stage of starting solids and are mostly doing BLW. Do I try gluten? I wasn't planning on doing any meats/breads until after he gets the hang of veggies and fruits. What would you guys do?
    Are you gluten free because you have celiac's?  I know that is genetic so I would wait I think on introducing gluten if that was the case. 
  • Tmgs2013 said:
    I have another question for you ladies. So as of right now we are dairy free, and obvious soy free. I don't eat gluten for myself and have been gluten free for years now. Pregnancy seemed to make my food allergies 10x worse, and now (it seems) LO has all my intolerances. 

    For example before pregnancy I could tolerate some dairy (cheese, yogurt) some soy although it made me bloated, and if I had just a little gluten it wasn't the end of the world. Now even after having DS I can't have any of it (besides the soy, that I'm strangely fine with).

    So we are at the stage of starting solids and are mostly doing BLW. Do I try gluten? I wasn't planning on doing any meats/breads until after he gets the hang of veggies and fruits. What would you guys do?
    Are you gluten free because you have celiac's?  I know that is genetic so I would wait I think on introducing gluten if that was the case. 
    I never went through the testing for celiac. I did a full elimination diet about 7 years ago, and any attempt to bring gluten back in has been bad. I do have 2 other people in my family who are intolerant though so I think it's best to wait on it. 
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  • Hey all, I know eating out is a common challenge here and I just had to share that I was on Saladworks website and they have the best allergen information I have seen on any restaurants website.  They have this thing where you can put in what you are allergic to and it gives you a list of everything you can and cannot eat and also links to all the ingredient lists.  They also list items you can eat if you make modifications (like taking off the cheese).  So impressed.  Here's hoping more chains make it this easy.
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