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Follow Up: IUI#5

So a friend said she'd been stalking 3T looking for my update and I realized I updated my two private groups but not here.  Sorry!  IUI#5 went fine yesterday.  

For those of you that remember, we were doing a MFI experiment.  DH was instructed to expell either from masterbation or sex every.single.day. from cd4 until trigger, then take a night off and then have IUI.  There was an Australian study, and a few minor follow ups that say this makes the sample have the best chance of pregnancy rates, mainly from motility and morph.  I was very fearful of doing this because what if it hurt instead of helped?  

Well, the good news is it didn't hurt.  His post wash was almost identical to his sample in January when we got PG and m/c (which was his best sample to date) - post wash over just over 10mil/ml with 88% motility.  HOWEVER his initial numbers were lower (18mil vs 36mil).  So, that means that many more made it to post wash.  In January, less than third survived to post wash whereas this time over 50% made it.  IDK.  As my mother would say, six of one half a dozen of the other.  Since the final number was the same and the motility was the same I don't know if his initial count was hurt because of the experiment or if it's just a basic fluke lower sample - how MFI can be.   And the higher motility and survival rate to post wash...was that because of this? IDK.  

What I can say, is that it wore my poor 41 year old husband out!  We had sex the night of trigger, but it took some effort on our parts to get it done if ya know what I mean...because of eight straight days.  But the job got done.  Was fairly unromantic though from the effort that had to be made.  Then last night after having given his sample and to have sex that night?  Ugh, we tried.  For like, an hour.  But eventually just gave up, and then he felt bad but said it was - "just too much"  and  "forced".  

Now, we've had timed sex for over three years.  And this is our fifth IUI.  It's never felt forced.  It's never been so difficult.  It's never been so unromantic.  I've always felt blessed that as an MFI couple, we've never had these issues.  Last night just sucked.  A Lot.  So, if this cycle doesn't work I don't know that we'll be willing to try that again.  I hated seeing DH so disappointed in himself.


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IUI#1&2&3 (2011 & 2012) BFN
IUI#4 1/23/13 on 75iu x9 Follistim = BFP then chem preg m/c (Feb 2013)
IUI#5 BFN (April 2013)
IVF w/ICSI Oct. 2, 2012 - 13R, 11M, 7F, 1 frozen blast 4BB grade - - - FET Nov 15, 2013
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Re: Follow Up: IUI#5

  • Glad the IUI went well and his numbers weren't hurt by the "experiment". 

    Sorry to hear you guys had a hard time this cycle.  Our RE told us last cycle to have sex EOD for the whole cycle since we weren't sure when I would ovulate and we were trying things on our own. We definintely had those times where it was forced and completely unromantic. We modified it to only EOD during the weeks that were most likely when I would ovulate.  What a bummer IF can be.

    Keeping my FX that this is the cycle for you and that you will not have to worry about going through this again. GL!

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    Treatments:  6 Months Lupron Depot injections; 1500 mg metformin; 3 cycles of Clomid + TI = BFN

    3 endometrial biopsies all were "out of phase" 

    September - December, 2013:  Break to lose weight and get healthy

    40 lb weight loss but still not ovulating "in phase"  

    February - March 2014: bcps + follistim + trigger + TI = BFP

     Beta #1 (12dpo): 30; Beta #2 (18dpo): 500; Beta #3 (25dpo): 7,000!!! 

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    I'm glad you guys did the best you could and will keep my FX that it'll be enough!! I'm sorry you had a miserable go at it last night... it's never fun when that happens. 
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    Me: 32 DH: 35  TTC#1 since March 2012
    Dx: Poor Embryo Quality, Arcuate Uterus, Poor Uterine Blood Flow, Mild Endo, 
           Protein S Deficiency, Sjorgen's Syndrome 

    IUI #1-5: BFN
    Laparoscopy & Hysteroscopy: minimal endo, partial septoplasty
    IVF #1: 10R/6M/6F ~ Day 3 ET = BFN
    IVF #2: 14R/9M/5F ~ transfer canceled ~ all embryos arrested at 1-2 cell stage
    IVF #3: 9R/5M/5F ~ 1 frosty!
    IVF #4 (FET #1): BFN

    IVF #5 (DE IVF #1 with Dr. KK protocol): Currently PREGNANT!!!!!!
    Synthroid + Prednisone + Metformin + Baby Aspirin + Supplements Galore = 15+ pills a day
    Lupron + Lovenox + Delestrogen + IVIG + B/W = 2-5 pokes a day
    19R, 17M, 17F - transferred two Grade A blasts 11/16, four frosties!!!
    Beta #1 11/24 (13dpo/8dp5dt) = 367 ~ Beta #2 11/26 (15dpo/10dp5dt) = 709
    Beta #3 11/29 (18dpo/13dp5dt) = 1,997 ~ Beta #4 12/1 (20dpo/15dp5dt) = 3,403

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  • We've had moments of forced sex and it sucks. I hope that this is it for you! Good luck!! 
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    BFP#1 5.23.12 C/P 4w4d 
    BFP #2 10.1.13
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  • :::hugs::: Im sorry that this experiment didn't prove to get better results and left you and your H in such a state.

    FX that your 2ww flies by!
    Me: 37, DH: 35 :: TCC since 2/11 SA: Perfect! CD3  HSG = Blocked Right Tube
    April- Femara 2.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN   May- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN
    June- Femara 7.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN  August- Lap & Hysteroscopy = Blocked & Partially Blocked Tubes
    September- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN  October- 100mg Clomid + Trigger + TI = BFN
    IVF # 1: Stims 11/30 ER 12/12/12! (10R, 10M, 8F, 2T, 6 F) :: Beta #1- 176  c/p @ 4w4d
    FET #1 February 26th :: Lost 4 to Thaw, Transferred 2 = BFFN
    IVF # 2 Stims 5/10 ER 5/21 (15R, 13M, 13F, 2T, 7F- 6d3 & 1d5) :: Beta # 1- 15 c/p @ 4w
    FET #2 Cancelled, Right Tube Developed a Hydro  8/28 Hydro & Scar Tissue Removed  Cleared for FET
    FET #2.2 Scheduled for September 20th
    2 Thawed, 2 Transferred! Beta #1- 96, Beta #2 906! :: EDD June 10th
    2015- 2 failed FET. We are done
    SURPRISE! BFP 8/8/16   EDD 4/1/17

     
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  • My RE also suggested something similar. Poor DH says he feels like a man whore.

    Me- 35 Dx endo; DH- 33 no probs.
    BFP#1 (totally a wonderful surprise)- 3/10/11. IUFD 6/25/11. 
    TTC since 8/2011.
    BFP#2- 11/1/11. EDD 7/6/12. Blighted ovum 12/1/11.

    New OBGYN 12/2012- CD3 labs, SA, HSG normal. 
    First RE appt 1/16/2013. Unexplained infertility. Lap planned. 

    12/2012- Clomid 50mg + TI= BFN 
    1/2013- Clomid 50mg + TI= BFN.

     Lap 2/11/2013- Removed endo. 

    3/2013- Clomid + IUI= BFN
    4/2013- Clomid + IUI= BFN
    5/2013- Clomid + IUI= BFN

    June 2013- Time for a new RE!

    July 2013- We're in Shared Risk! Love my new RE!
    August 2013- IVF#1- 14 R, 11F, transferred 1 perfect blast, 5 day 5 frosties= BFN.
    Sept 2013- Let's get ready for FET October 7th ish!< transfer 2 embies 10/11/13.......BFP 10/18/13!!!!/div>

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    I am sorry your night didn't go well... but I am rooting for you and pray this is your cycle! 
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    Me DX: Hashimotos,Hypothyroid, DOR, MTHFR,  DH: normal

     IUI #1-#4 BFNs and a few cancelled cycles in the mix.
    - poor responder
    ***Suprise BFP on 6/13/13. Natural MC @6wks 3days
    IVF#1 and 2- Cancelled due to no response on max stimms
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  • EIK2013EIK2013 member
    I'm sorry that last night was rough...I can imagine that your DH is feeling down, but I definitely can't blame the guy!!  That is a lot of work for any man to do.  It sounds like you guys are a VERY strong couple and you have been through so much that I'm sure you will both rebound back.  It sounds like the experiment overall went well, just a lot of work :)  GL and FX that this is it for you guys!
    Me: 27, DH: 29*** TTC since November 2011 *** Dx with PCOS in September 2012 
    ***September 2012: IUI #1 = BFN*** 
     ***October 2012: IUI #2 = cancelled due to not responding to meds ***
     ***February 2013: IUI #3 - BFN ***
     *** April 2013: Gonal-f, HCG Trigger and TI = BFN*** 
     ***May/June 2013: TAKING A BREAK.***
    ***July 2013: Gonal-f, Trigger and TI = BFN***
    ***August 2013: Gonal-f, Trigger and TI = Cancelled due to over-stimulating***
    ***September/October 2013: Fermara, Gonal-f, Trigger and TI = BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beta #1: 65, Beta #2: 210!!!!!!***




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  • Fingers crossed that this is your cycle!  So sorry the IF process took such a toll on your husband and on you both as a couple.  I know you will think positive thoughts going forward and will be strong! Smile

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    RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF 

    IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN

      Decided to do IVF... Began stimming on September 10th!  Egg Retrieval 9/20/13.  19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI

     3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5  Beta #2 on 10/6/13 =  negative

      IVF#2 - Lupron plan  (set to begin on 10/28/13)  (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)

     Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months

    CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron.  (Got my calendar today!  IVF#2 is a go!)

    ER = 1/14/14  (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized.  Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized.  At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing.  Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)

    ET = 1/19/14  (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred!   (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze.  =(  )

    Beta #1 = 1/28/14   (2 weeks after ER)  BFP! 209 (9dp5dt)   EDD 10/7/14

    Beta #2 - 1/30/14  (11 dp5dt) 302

    Beta #3 - 2/3/14  (15 dp5dt)  1222 

    Ultrasound set for 2/17/14......TWINS!        Twin A - HR 124 bpm; Twin B - HR 126 bpm

    Final Ultrasound with RE 3/10/14 - Twin A - HR 176 bpm; Twin B - HR 177 bpm.

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  • It's looks like we are both on our 5th IUI attempt and stuck in the 2ww together. Fingers crossed that 5 is our lucky number!

    My husband and I had a similar BD schedule this cycle. I really look forward to our sex life recovering and returning to normal. "Trying is the fun part" is a BIG FAT LIE!!!
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    *** 12/2011: IUI #1 50mg Clomid = BFN ***
    *** 8/2012: IUI #2 100mg Clomid = BFN ***
    *** 11/2012: IUI #3 150mg Clomid & Metmorphin 150mg = BFN ***
    *** 1/2013: Changed RE's & Urologists for more focus on MFI ***
    *** 4/2013: IUI#4 Femara & Follistim = BFFN ***
    *** 5/2013: IUI#5 Femara, Follistim & Bravella = BFFN ***
    ***6/2013: Taking a much needed break***
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    "Trying is the fun part" is a BIG FAT LIE!!!


    This!!!
    Good Luck, and I hope the 2WW goes fast.

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    3-16-2012 D&C/Miscarriage.
     Blocked Left Tube. 
    Diminished Ovarian Reserve   
    MFI - Sperm Morphology 2%.  
    MTHFR 
     Abnormal Antiphospholipid Antibodies
    April 2013 ~  1st IUI attempt - 100 mg Clomid- Canceled
    May 2013  ~ 2nd IUI attempt -100 mg Clomid- Canceled
    June 2013 ~ 3rd IUI attempt - 100 mg Clomid+ Trigger+ Progesterone~BFN
     IVF/ICSI #1 May 2014 ~ Freeze All ~ Due to OHSS
     5/1/2014 ~ 22 retrieved, 12 fertilized, 3 frozen
    5/28/2014 ~ FET#1 ~ Transferred 2 Hatching Blasts
      6/1/2014~ **BFP**
    6/9/2014 Beta #1 ~ 1022
    6/12/2014 Beta #2 ~ 3099
    6/16/2014 Beta #3 ~ >5000
    6/19/2014 First U/S ~ TWINS!!!  
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  • FX for you!

    I don't know how your DH did it. EOD is almost too much for me and DH. There have been a few forced times which makes it so hard mentally to deal with.



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    B/W: good. SA: good.
    November 2012: Paratubal cyst found during U/S.
    January 10, 2013: Lap removed paratubal cyst and Stage 2 Endometriosis. 
    3 cycles of Femara + TI = BFNs

    June 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 37.5 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFN

    July 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 75 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFP!!!!

    Beta 1 @ 11 DPIUI = 76. Progesterone = 27.3

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  • I have everything crossed for you that this is your cycle! Best of luck to you.

    Me: 29 DH: 30
    TTC since April 2012
    April 2013 HSG: All clear!
    SA, bloodwork normal
    Dx: unexplained IF
    4.28.2013: clomid 50 mg + trigger + IUI#1= BFN
    5.24.2013: femara 5 mg + trigger + IUI#2= BFN
    6.20.2013: femara 5 mg + trigger + IUI#3= BFN


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    I also hope this is it for you! :) FX
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  • I'm thinking good thoughts for you on lucky number five! Sorry to hear the pressures of IF are taking a toll on your hubby though :
  • GL katib! Hope this is the one for you. 

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  • I truly truly hope IUI#5 is your cycle! Sorry about the forced sex = ( Hopefully the romance with bounce back quickly! GL! FX for you!
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  • I am always late to the party.  Kati, I am glad to see that your IUI went well.  I am sorry about the forced sex :(  But I gotta tell you, over 3 years and this is the first time, you are doing something right! 

    I have everything crossed that this is the cycle.

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  • Hey there! So glad it went well and your sample was on par with last time. Sorry that you and DH had to deal with the crazy amounts of sex, etc. That sounds intense, I know my DH wouldn't have been able to hang. So props to your DH and you too! Sorry the night after IUI was a bummer, we've been there too, and that wasn't after tons of nights in a row. FX that this is your time! Can't wait for you to get that BFP and have a perfect nine months to follow!
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    Me: 33, DH: 35, DX: PCOS & MFI (low everything)
    IUI #1-3 - Low Post-Wash Counts - All BFNs
    IVF #1 w/ ICSI: Long Lupron Protocol - Freeze-All Cycle due to Severe OHSS
    ER 4/27, 33 Eggs Retrieved, 13 Frosties
    FET #1 6/5, Transferred One Perfect 4AA Blast, HPT BFP @ 6dp5dt
    Beta #1 - 209, Beta #2 - 508, Beta #3 - 1,059
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  • I really hope this is it for you Katib!  Glad to hear that the sample ended up just as good as last time even with the experiment.  It sucks that the rest of it felt so forced, but I am glad this is the first time it felt that way.  I can't tell you how many times DH and I have gotten into screaming fights over when and how often to BD. Doesn't really put either of us in the mood.   IF is so stressful sometimes!

     

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  • Thanks for updating us I was curious how that would work out, we also have MFI issues. I am sorry that last night didn't go well but I really hope this is it for you guys!! Good Luck!!!
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  • sorry for the miserable night, but glad to hear the experiment didn't "hurt" your numbers.  that sounds like an interesting protocol, and I give you guys a lot of credit for trying something new.

    hope IUI #5 is the one for you both!  fingers crossed and hope the next two weeks fly by.

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