So a friend said she'd been stalking 3T looking for my update and I realized I updated my two private groups but not here. Sorry! IUI#5 went fine yesterday.
For those of you that remember, we were doing a MFI experiment. DH was instructed to expell either from masterbation or sex every.single.day. from cd4 until trigger, then take a night off and then have IUI. There was an Australian study, and a few minor follow ups that say this makes the sample have the best chance of pregnancy rates, mainly from motility and morph. I was very fearful of doing this because what if it hurt instead of helped?
Well, the good news is it didn't hurt. His post wash was almost identical to his sample in January when we got PG and m/c (which was his best sample to date) - post wash over just over 10mil/ml with 88% motility. HOWEVER his initial numbers were lower (18mil vs 36mil). So, that means that many more made it to post wash. In January, less than third survived to post wash whereas this time over 50% made it. IDK. As my mother would say, six of one half a dozen of the other. Since the final number was the same and the motility was the same I don't know if his initial count was hurt because of the experiment or if it's just a basic fluke lower sample - how MFI can be. And the higher motility and survival rate to post wash...was that because of this? IDK.
What I can say, is that it wore my poor 41 year old husband out! We had sex the night of trigger, but it took some effort on our parts to get it done if ya know what I mean...because of eight straight days. But the job got done. Was fairly unromantic though from the effort that had to be made. Then last night after having given his sample and to have sex that night? Ugh, we tried. For like, an hour. But eventually just gave up, and then he felt bad but said it was - "just too much" and "forced".
Now, we've had timed sex for over three years. And this is our fifth IUI. It's never felt forced. It's never been so difficult. It's never been so unromantic. I've always felt blessed that as an MFI couple, we've never had these issues. Last night just sucked. A Lot. So, if this cycle doesn't work I don't know that we'll be willing to try that again. I hated seeing DH so disappointed in himself.
Re: Follow Up: IUI#5
Glad the IUI went well and his numbers weren't hurt by the "experiment".
Sorry to hear you guys had a hard time this cycle. Our RE told us last cycle to have sex EOD for the whole cycle since we weren't sure when I would ovulate and we were trying things on our own. We definintely had those times where it was forced and completely unromantic. We modified it to only EOD during the weeks that were most likely when I would ovulate. What a bummer IF can be.
Keeping my FX that this is the cycle for you and that you will not have to worry about going through this again. GL!
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Me 32 :: DH 41
TTC since November, 2011
DH's SA : Excellent
Lap and Hysteroscopy June 2012
DX: PCOS, Stage III Endo, slight Adenomyosis, blocked tube, and probable LPD
Treatments: 6 Months Lupron Depot injections; 1500 mg metformin; 3 cycles of Clomid + TI = BFN
3 endometrial biopsies all were "out of phase"
September - December, 2013: Break to lose weight and get healthy
40 lb weight loss but still not ovulating "in phase"
February - March 2014: bcps + follistim + trigger + TI = BFP
Beta #1 (12dpo): 30; Beta #2 (18dpo): 500; Beta #3 (25dpo): 7,000!!!
1st u/s 4/16: One beautiful hb at 144 bmp
2nd u/s 4/29: hb at 166 bmp. Graduated from RE!!
TEAM PINK!
Baby girl arrived on Thanksgiving day weighing 7lbs 6oz and measuring 20 inches
FX that your 2ww flies by!
June- Femara 7.5mg + Trigger + IUI = BFN August- Lap & Hysteroscopy = Blocked & Partially Blocked Tubes
September- Femara 5mg = CX - No Response on Left = BFN October- 100mg Clomid + Trigger + TI = BFN
IVF # 1: Stims 11/30 ER 12/12/12! (10R, 10M, 8F, 2T, 6 F) :: Beta #1- 176 c/p @ 4w4d
FET #1 February 26th :: Lost 4 to Thaw, Transferred 2 = BFFN
IVF # 2 Stims 5/10 ER 5/21 (15R, 13M, 13F, 2T, 7F- 6d3 & 1d5) :: Beta # 1- 15 c/p @ 4w
FET #2.2 Scheduled for September 20th
2 Thawed, 2 Transferred! Beta #1- 96, Beta #2 906! :: EDD June 10th
2015- 2 failed FET. We are done
SURPRISE! BFP 8/8/16 EDD 4/1/17
My RE also suggested something similar. Poor DH says he feels like a man whore.
Me:36 DH:38 TTC#1 since 4/2012
Me DX: Hashimotos,Hypothyroid, DOR, MTHFR, DH: normal
IUI #1-#4 BFNs and a few cancelled cycles in the mix.
- poor responder
***Suprise BFP on 6/13/13. Natural MC @6wks 3days
IVF#1 and 2- Cancelled due to no response on max stimms
FET 5/20- BFP
1st Beta- 641
2nd beta- 2166
Sono- TWINS!!!!
Two Boys! Born January 2015 @36 weeks. Healthy and no NICU! So blessed!
Fingers crossed that this is your cycle! So sorry the IF process took such a toll on your husband and on you both as a couple. I know you will think positive thoughts going forward and will be strong!
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Married August 2012 -- Me (40 yrs old) My husband (45 yrs. old)
RE referral from ObGYN in late Jan. 2013 -- Testing Confirms Unexplained IF
IUI #"s1 - 3 (Femara + IUI) April - June 2013 - all BFN
Decided to do IVF... Began stimming on September 10th! Egg Retrieval 9/20/13. 19 eggs: 6 to mature to freeze after 6 fertilized with ICSI
3 morula stage embryos transferred on 9/25/13.....Beta #1 on 10/4/13/ = 7.5 Beta #2 on 10/6/13 = negative
IVF#2 - Lupron plan (set to begin on 10/28/13) (Planning on thawing and fertilizing our 6 eggs with ICSI as well as all of the mature eggs they retrieve with this fresh cycle.)
Late October 2013 - ectopic pregnancy - methotrexate injection....benched 3 months
CD1 - 12/5/13...Lupron set to start on 12/26/13; CD1 - 1/2/14....Baseline 1/3/14....begin follistim tonight and continue with lupron. (Got my calendar today! IVF#2 is a go!)
ER = 1/14/14 (11 eggs....9 were mature. 9 fertilized. Of the 6 mature eggs we thawed, only 4 fertilized. At this time, we have 13 eggs fertilized and growing. Waiting for news about a 3-day or 5-day transfer.)
ET = 1/19/14 (5dt).....3 blastocysts transferred! (All nine embryos didn't make it to freeze. =( )
Beta #1 = 1/28/14 (2 weeks after ER) BFP! 209 (9dp5dt) EDD 10/7/14
Beta #2 - 1/30/14 (11 dp5dt) 302
Beta #3 - 2/3/14 (15 dp5dt) 1222
Ultrasound set for 2/17/14......TWINS! Twin A - HR 124 bpm; Twin B - HR 126 bpm
Final Ultrasound with RE 3/10/14 - Twin A - HR 176 bpm; Twin B - HR 177 bpm.
PAIF/SAIF Welcome!
My husband and I had a similar BD schedule this cycle. I really look forward to our sex life recovering and returning to normal. "Trying is the fun part" is a BIG FAT LIE!!!
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Me: 36, DH: 41 TTC: Feb 2011
Dx uterine fibroids & MFI = Varicocele causing decreased SA
*** 12/2011: IUI #1 50mg Clomid = BFN ***
*** 8/2012: IUI #2 100mg Clomid = BFN ***
*** 11/2012: IUI #3 150mg Clomid & Metmorphin 150mg = BFN ***
*** 1/2013: Changed RE's & Urologists for more focus on MFI ***
*** 4/2013: IUI#4 Femara & Follistim = BFFN ***
*** 5/2013: IUI#5 Femara, Follistim & Bravella = BFFN ***
***6/2013: Taking a much needed break***
This!!!
Good Luck, and I hope the 2WW goes fast.
1/7/2015 Twins born @ 34 weeks
I don't know how your DH did it. EOD is almost too much for me and DH. There have been a few forced times which makes it so hard mentally to deal with.
Me: 32 DH: 31.
B/W: good. SA: good.
November 2012: Paratubal cyst found during U/S.
January 10, 2013: Lap removed paratubal cyst and Stage 2 Endometriosis.
3 cycles of Femara + TI = BFNs
June 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 37.5 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFN
July 2013: Femara 2.5 mg, Gonal F Injects 75 IU, Menopur, trigger + IUI = BFP!!!!
Beta 1 @ 11 DPIUI = 76. Progesterone = 27.3
BFP 8/16/2013 // EDD 4/28/2014
Jordan Samuel born April 19, 2014. 6 lb, 12 oz and 18 inches long.
CLICK ME!!!11!!1111!!
Me: 29 DH: 30
TTC since April 2012
April 2013 HSG: All clear!
SA, bloodwork normal
Dx: unexplained IF
4.28.2013: clomid 50 mg + trigger + IUI#1= BFN
5.24.2013: femara 5 mg + trigger + IUI#2= BFN
6.20.2013: femara 5 mg + trigger + IUI#3= BFN
** After 2 1/2 years of Unexplained IF, 2 failed medicated cycles, and 4 failed IUI's - our baby girl came to us through the miracle of Mini IVF! **
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Age: Me 26, DH 27, Married Oct. 10, 2009 ,TTC since March 2012
Problem: Irregular menstruation, unexplained
Nov&Dec-Provera because of no period after 35+ days
First RE appt 1/10/2013
Tests: TSH (normal), Prolactin (normal), SA (abnormal)
Hysteroscopy (normal) and PCOS labs (negative/normal) 1/15/2013
2/1/13- HPT BFP but Beta Hcg was negative
Plan: Femara + Trigger + IUI in April if no real BFP before then Bloggy Blog!
I am always late to the party. Kati, I am glad to see that your IUI went well. I am sorry about the forced sex But I gotta tell you, over 3 years and this is the first time, you are doing something right!
I have everything crossed that this is the cycle.
Me: 33, DH: 35, DX: PCOS & MFI (low everything)
IUI #1-3 - Low Post-Wash Counts - All BFNs
IVF #1 w/ ICSI: Long Lupron Protocol - Freeze-All Cycle due to Severe OHSS
ER 4/27, 33 Eggs Retrieved, 13 Frosties
FET #1 6/5, Transferred One Perfect 4AA Blast, HPT BFP @ 6dp5dt
Beta #1 - 209, Beta #2 - 508, Beta #3 - 1,059
EDD 2/20/14
IF, 5 losses, 1 son, 1 on the way.
sorry for the miserable night, but glad to hear the experiment didn't "hurt" your numbers. that sounds like an interesting protocol, and I give you guys a lot of credit for trying something new.
hope IUI #5 is the one for you both! fingers crossed and hope the next two weeks fly by.
Mama to Three Girls:
Twins born March 2014 at 26 weeks due to preterm labor
and our 37weeker born May 9th, 2016!