what about cigarettes?
Not at all that the government pays for cigarettes but if someone is making barely enough to get by & happen to be on assistance how do you feel about them using the money they do earn to buy cigarettes? Is it total b.s. or hey, everyone has a vise and deserves a little treat?
Re: no skittles for poor people...
yes, rolling their own is an option... But the situation I'm thinking about there was a pack of cig's involved, so I know that's not this person's case.
But yes, they could roll their own.
It was a joke. I'm really not sure how useful a vise would be in rolling cigarettes.
I'm not a smoker and neither is anyone in my household, so I have no dog in this fight, but I'm going to say... none of our business. Poverty is stressful and smoking is a known response to stress. It's cheaper than therapy, man.
Of course, I am "EVERYTHING FOR POOR PEOPLE" so, whatever.
no... I'm just thinking cig's more so because of the health/medical (yeah, I guess junk food isn't good for your health but I wasn't thinking about that.)
lol. good point.
geez, but not much, from what I've heard smokes are like $8-9 a pack now (here.. .I know they are way higher elsewhere)
This is a given. Lawl.
ok. I will set aside my judgey eyes as you raise good points.
A lady came in to get paperwork she needed to take to the office regarding her assistance. Her and her DH smoke a lot, like they've been in here a few times and take turns, or will both go out for smoke breaks durning the 10-15 mins they are in my office... Anyway, she was complaining the lady she has to go see is at the "far away place" and they better pay for her gas. I was just thinking, if you cut back on your cig's, it'd surely pay for your few miles in gas.
But I stand corrected. Their money/their problem(yes, because smoking is a problem) and coming from a former smoker, I do know how hard it is to quite/when life gets tuff all I wanna do is smoke.
Cigarettes can be very helpful to some people.
Well, if you've got a hankering for lung cancer, I suppose you're correct
Eh, there is reason people start, choose to quit, choose not to quit, when they quit, etc. I guess I just hate when people rag on smokers. It's like saying an overweight person is a moron.
lolwut
omg
you are. you are a relaxed genius with a wonderful happy dancing siggy.
(I'm a newly quite smoker, also loved my cigs... but I too am starting to feel a little bit smarter ::starts till for massage:: )
ISWYDT
Thanks, lady I just celebrated 2 years smoke free and spent the former 16 years with my Camels. Keep on keepin' on- and get your rub on!
DH smokes. He has tried to quit several times. He can't quit. Why can't he quit you ask? He can't quit because the nicotine controls his ADD.
His Dr, refuses to give him ADD meds, she thinks it's a phyc's job to do that but he psycs he called all told him he had to go to his regular Dr. If he can't control his ADD, he can't do his job, if he can't do his job, he doesn't get paid, if he doesn't get paid.....you get the point.
I absolutely HATE the fact that he smokes. It is $60 a week out of our beyond tight budget. It is unhealthy. It stinks. It is gross. At this point it is needed.
(let the flaming begin)
perhaps new doctors are in order.
um, I've switched doctors for less.
With our craptastic insurance, it is difficult to get a new Dr.
I agree there are other nicotine options (patch/gum). He says the gum is gross and he really doesn't like gum anyway. He also is anti-patch, I don't know why. I agree smoking is not a good option in this situation, but as a non-smoker, I can't really tell him how to go about quitting or whatever. It is easy for a non-smoker, especially a never smoked non-smoker to say just quit, use the patch, or whatever. For the smoker it isn't that easy.
So, is your head in the sand completely or are you aware that these are just excuses so he can smoke?
This has to be MUD, I can't imagine being a non-smoker living with a smoker (who is literally smoking away our money) and just being like "whatever"
Options
1. New doctor--even with "craptastic insurance" there is always more then one choice
2. Have the old doctor prescribe something like Chantix or other remedies to stop smoking
3. Sit down and have a heart to heart with your spouse about smoking--you don't want him to die, he's spending a lot of money on it, etc. Find ways together to make the problem better.
Honestly-- I think he just wants to keep smoking there are lots of nicotine substitutes
ETA: not only because I'm really anti-smoking but I noticed you have a little kid--I can't imagine having a dad that smells like an ashtray (even if he smokes outside) is awesome for him. Think of your kid.
The patch is messed up. It can mess with your head. I have panic and anxiety and that thing was terrible. The gum is gross and by no means helps. He is not coming up with excuses. He is saying he has ADD and it helps him....and I am sure it does. It helped me with PPD and my anxiety.
He might quit one day but for now this is what helps his mental health.
Then you are using the wrong dosage of patch/gum, obviously to high--you realize it's the same drug you are getting in your cigs right?
He's is coming up with excuses--there are better ways to deal with ADD then to be a smoker. Glad it "helped" with your PPD and your anxiety to bad you don't respect your kid enough to find an alternate solution and instead risk your health (and depending on where you smoke) their health.
Need "mental health" help--go see a doctor, go to therapy, get a game plan together. SO many more options then spending 60$ every week on cigarettes.
Thank you!
No this is not MUD.
No I am not an idiot who doesn't know he "want's to smoke."
However, our insurance is crappy, it is hard to find a Dr. His Dr, does not want to prescribe him chantex (sp?) or ridilin (sp?) or any other ADD type drug. She does not believe she is the one supposed to do that, she thinks that ADD is a "mental health" issue hence he needs to see a shrink. All the shrinks he has called to get appointments to get seen/drugs have told him the it is not a "mental health" issue and they won't see him for it. He is basically stuck between doctors that don't want to help him.
1) new doctor
2) Rx for ADD medication
3) stop smoking by whatever means necessary--no cop-outs
4) repeat as needed
Let me help you then, what insurance do you go through and what area do you live in. I would gladly help someone find another doctor. I mean this sincerely.
Otherwise blaming crappy insurance is a cop out. I have seen crappy insurances, I have never seen an insurance only cover one doctor. But it doesn't seem like either one of you want to put in the effort to find an alternative.