I just can't help myself.
If you think extended BFing is creepy, is it also creepy for your child to see you or your SO naked? If you plan to nurse will you cover up around your older kids?
Here's my FFC, my kid sees me naked all the time, I'm a SAHM so he sees me changing or getting out of the shower and I'm certainly not going to shut him out of the room. Flame away.
Re: So is this creepy too?
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I remember seeing my mom naked when I was younger, but not my dad.
Trying to make sure I word this right....
There is, but only because he'll be more independent and I won't need to be keeping an eye on him while changing or showering. And also because at some point I'm sure he'll say Ew Mom! and walk out of the room, but I'm still not going to feel embarrassed or weirded out if he walks in on me when he's 15. If we decide to have another baby one day when he's a teenager, I'll still whip my boobs out to BF at home regardless. Does that make sense?
LOL I just died reading that!
lol, touche.
Yes...or my mother's nipples...
Ok really? Bent over pubic shot is one thing, but I don't understand when your own mother's boobs gross you out no matter what age you or they are. I really, really don't.
I will attempt to breast feed this next LO and hasn't really though much about that sort of nudity around my DS as he will be under 2 when LO arrives. I think it depends on their age.
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I guess I just don't get what age BFing becomes something your other kids shouldn't see? I just don't feel there is one.
I plan to nurse baby freely in front of DD. I'd like her to know its natural and that it's how the baby eats. DD may be 4 before I'm done nursing the baby. It wouldn't matter if she was 14, though. It's natural, period, and you're my kid.
I am personally not comfortable with my kids seeing below the belt nudity of the opposite sex past a certain age, but I'm not sure what that age is. I think I'll know it when it happens. There's just a time when it'll be no longer appropriate for my daughter to see daddy's peen casually, lol.
See, I would have laughed and said yep. Or just said well turn around then, I'll be done in a sec.
Because my mother had a problem with hair around her nipples that she refused to remove...and there is a clear image of them in my mind from the last time I saw them right before I moved out to go to college. That's why...
ETA: corrected minor errors...and...I never said I had an issue with breasts...just seeing her's...
lol, I totally get why below the belt nudity is something parents have a cut off point for. I just don't get why people have the same hang up over boobs.
Breastfeeding is not creepy in any way shape or form. However, that said, it does make some people very uncomfortable. While in public, I will cover myself while breastfeeding. While at home, probably not, as long as no one is visiting. If we have company, I would either excuse myself or cover up. It is not because I am ashamed or think its creepy, it is out of respect for others.
As for being naked in front of your children, I think there should be a cut off....as PP said 4 year olds run around naked and its ok...i dont think it would be acceptable for me to do the same....
Similar to taking naked pics of your baby..its ok when they are little and infants, but at some point it just becomes not appropriate....
Just my opinion...
That makes sense! And I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, but I don't really think of BF as being naked - yes, you're showing skin but you are feeding your child and it is a lot different to me than walking around completely in the buff, KWIM?
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Totally agree with this. You are feeding their sibling. I don't think of that as nudity.
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I dont know how old I was, but I saw my dad's peen and was old enough to remember it... not going to lie, it scarred me a little bit...
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I did! I still laugh about it. I just felt that if you could name your sister's body parts with semi-scientific terms, you were too old to be seeing them.
I do feel breastfeeding is different though. My mom breastfed all of her children in front of all of her children regardless of sex.
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My sister is 8 years younger than me my mom nursed her in front of me, my sister has breast fed her kids without a cover in front of me and I have done the same. Breastfeeding is just part of our normal.
My mom still will change her shirt in front of me. I don't remember ever seeing my dad naked.
I nurse in front of whomever whenever. I don't care if it's my FIL, my friend, a perfect stranger, my OB, or the pope. I now totally understand the phrase "just you wait."
And for the silly silly ftms who think, "I'll just pump, NBD!" LOL. Mmmkay. We sure will see about that. I can't wait to hear in June/July how "NBD" pumping is for you.
NIP was different for me. I'm was comfortable nursing openly in front of family and other children. But I was very weird about NIP. I didn't want to be...I was always trying to convince myself that anyone who thought it was odd could go eff themselves, but I just couldn't make MYSELF comfortable with it. I never nursed in a restaurant or park, at a playdate or party. I almost always nursed in my car and I think I nursed discreetly in a corner of a hotel lobby once. I had a wicked supply and had to pump in the mornings after DD nursed, so I had tons of milk stored and would bring bottles of BM out frequently, then pump when I got home. I didn't mind pumping.
I'm not advocating for this. I think women SHOULD nurse everywhere and anywhere they want to, and I wish I could've been more comfortable with it. I was just weird about it because I happen to be super modest and I couldn't change that. I already know that I'll be more open about NIP this time by necessity. DD needs to get out and has a lot of activities to attend, and baby will be nursed wherever baby decides he/she needs to eat.
Just thought I'd share, your post made me consider my own experience and maybe it'll be interesting to some FTMs.
I don't think she was saying that there's anything wrong with pumping, especially for WMs. My take was that she was jut saying IF you have the ability to just put baby to boob, you generally will do that over pumping because it's so much easier.
At what point did I insinuate that there was anything wrong with pumping? Pumping is HARD work. Like REALLY REALLY hard and ftms have zero concept of how incredibly difficult it is and tend to casually say that they would "just" bring a bottle of pumped milk or why don't moms who want their 4 year old to have BM "just" pump.
Calm down and actually read what I wrote before overreacting. No one is judging, I'm pointing out how OBVIOUSLY ignorant anyone who says "just" pump is.
Any mom who has ever EP or even attempted to pump for work or for a sitter or just so their husband or mom can do a feeding knows there is nothing simple about it.
I'm saying that pumping IS a big deal.
I wasn't thinking of anyone specific. It's a general theme of people who don't know what they're talking about foolishly suggesting that a mom just pump so that no one has to see her nurse. I think what I said is being completely misunderstood.
My opinion is that nudity and extended breastfeeding are personal decisions. If you feel uncomfortable, don't do it. If you don't feel uncomfortable, don't worry about it. Children's concepts of modesty and "shame" come from their parents' attitudes.
As far as nursing in front of older kids, I'm of the opinion that there should be no cut off age for children seeing a baby suckling a breast. It's not a sexual act. It's as natural as blowing your nose, eating, or going to the bathroom. Part of the reason some people have such difficulty nursing is because they never saw others (moms, sisters, aunts, etc) nursing in front of them. If you have no frame of reference for how it should be done and how to troubleshoot problems, you will have to do TONS of research and try to figure it out yourself. Society's obsession with breast modesty, in my opinion, contributes to how difficult it can be to nurse for some moms.
I "watched" my mother nurse my younger brother, and I wasn't big on public nursing with DS. I generally confined my nursing to more private areas with DS and will probably follow that again. However, I agree that there really is no age where it is inappropriate for a child or any person for that matter to be witness to a nursing baby. My DS will be 5 and my step-children will be 13 and 10, while I have no problem nursing in front of them I can imagine that at a minimum my 13 yo step-son may choose to leave the room, etc.
I try not to be completely naked in front of DS for several reasons, namely that he likes to point out my "lumps" and other anatomoical differences.
The reason I am clarifying this is that I would be okay nursing version 2 in front of an older male child my own child only but I would not be ok with version 1 in front of an older male child and by older I mean middle school or later.
I am NOT comfortable nursing in front of any men outside of my husband. In public I use a cover and try to find an out of the way space. If you ask your teenage son or husband to be honest with you they will most likely admit that a boob is a boob whether its meant to be feeding a baby or not...my husband doesn't see my daughter nursing as sexual but as soon as she realizes he has come into the room and rolls her head to look at him leaving the boob bare and exposed he is thinking sex...men are visual and the pictures stay with them...that is just the truth of it.
That being said I am not offended/bothered by women who are comfortable nursing more publicly than I am mostly because I know that because we have talked about it my husband averts his eyes when a woman is nursing in public. And 95 of men are polite like that but I am creeped out by the other 5 so I nurse in public but in a more private way because it creeps me out to think about men walking around with a visual image of my girls in his head. Also although i do nurse in public I also often took a pumped bottle...I didn't have supply issues which allowed for surplus milk so sometimes it truly was easier to let my daughter feed herself a bottle in the stroller while I kept shopping.
Last comment that some may hate but the only time I do not like seeing someone breast feed in public is when they are obviously trying to make a point about public breast feeding...example being last Christmas we went to the botanical garden by my parents to see their Christmas tree exhibit...place is packed bc it is Christmas weekend and it isn't a very big place made up of lots of smaller rooms. Right near the entrance is a large eating area that is vacant bc it is like 3pm...we are in probably the smallest room in the place and right in front of me a woman sits down on a bench along the path and proceeds to nurse her kid...now if the kid was screaming I could understand just stopping where you are and feeding but the kid was totally content so why not find a space that wasn't literally shoulder to shoulder packed with people...it is our right to breast feed in public but I think we support our cause better by being contentious of those around us...like how smokers can smoke in public but we still grumble if they smoke right next to us.