October 2013 Moms

HTT: Hobby Lobby

So I am obviously in the dark and casually mentioned to DH that I had some errands to run one being Hobby Lobby (Ive never been, thought it might be cheaper then Michaels) He gives me this look of disgust that I would ever consider shopping there.  The owners are very religious and think contraception is wrong, therefore, they are fighting the gov't to allow them not to include birth control options to their employees per their insurance coverage.  

My question to you is are there items you wont buy or places you would not shop because morally you feel it would be supporting something you dont believe in.  

  

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  • has615has615
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    I wound up going to Michaels instead and maybe paid more.  I don't really care if the owners do/dont use birth control but I think its pretty ridiculous to say none of your employees who are of different beliefs cant have it.  
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  • Absolutely. I won't eat Chik Fil A or shop at Hobby Lobby. I also won't shop at any pet supply stores that sell live animals.
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  • Wow I had no idea that they were fighting about that. I shop at Hobby Lobby at least every other weekend and this really sadens me. I love the store and their awesome sales however, I do not approve of what they are fighting for.
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    Yup. I think the most powerful way to protest is to decide where you will spend your money.
         
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  • I refuse to shop at Hobby Lobby, eat at Chik-fil-a or order from Papa John's (cause that guy's a douche who doesn't want to pay for health insurance for his employees). I also don't give to the Salvation Army or shop at Wal Mart.
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    Absolutely. I won't eat Chik Fil A or shop at Hobby Lobby. I also won't shop at any pet supply stores that sell live animals.

     

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    I wound up going to Michaels instead and maybe paid more.  I don't really care if the owners do/dont use birth control but I think its pretty ridiculous to say none of your employees who are of different beliefs cant have it.  

    This plus they're closed on Sundays which I find really flucking annoying! 

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  • Their values/beliefs are just that theirs not mine. As long as they aren't trying to push it on me I don't care. I have known about this case and I say good for them as a big business for standing their ground even if I may not agree with it. But I will continue to shop there as long as they have what I need.
  • Hum, ok, I will not shop at Abercrombie, mainly because I am not 16...and I love Chick-fil-A, and do not really care what their CEO's opinion is; so, I guess, if it's food driven and I like their food...I will go back!

    Um, Chick-fil-A. ::drools::

    ETA...these people do not have to work at Hobby Lobby if they don't agree with their policies. I'm just sayin'. 

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  • No, it plays no part in my shopping habits.

    BTW... for all my crafting supplies, I get as much as I can at Jo-Ann's because they take multiple coupons plus competitor's coupons, FWIW.

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    Absolutely. I won't eat Chik Fil A or shop at Hobby Lobby. I also won't shop at any pet supply stores that sell live animals.

     

    I was just thinking of you the other day. How are you doing? 


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  • I won't shop somewhere if I have moral issues with how they treat employees human rights type stuff. For example, I don't shop at WalMart.

    However, ehile I do not agree with chickfila's gay marriage stance, I do think they have the right to this opinion. They don't exclude gay people from working there, etc. I also think they treat their employees really well.

    Regarding hobby lobby, again, I believe in birth control, but I also support the company's right to not include it in part of their insurance plan if it was for contraception purposes; I do think they should include it for other issues that it is prescribed for. If they whole heartily don't believe in contraception, I don't blame them for not wanting to assist/pay for its coverage. I would have an issue if they prohibited their employees from taking it, however.

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  • The only stores I will not buy things in are pet stores who sell animals. I also wouldn't eat at KFC after that whole scandal where the employees were videotaped abusing the chickens, but I never ate there anyway, so it's kind of a moot point. We don't have any Chick-fil-A's around here.

     

    I do try to avoid Hobby Lobby and Wal-Mart. It annoys me that HL is closed Sundays and the people who work there are pretty weird- I always see this one car whenever I'm there, and it has bumper stickers all over it about how marriage should be between a man and women, etc. Also, one of the cashiers was really rude to a friend of mine not too long ago, but what made it even worse was when she went back to buy more of the same thing (mason jars), and the same cashier told her a story about someone else who bought a bunch of mason jars, and it was the story about her! Helloooooo!

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    Hum, ok, I will not shop at Abercrombie, mainly because I am not 16...and I love ChickfilA, and do not really care what their CEO's opinion is; so, I guess, if it's food driven and I like their food...I will go back! Um, ChickfilA. ::drools::

    it's not just the CEO's opinion for me.

    A portion of their profits ie, my money goes to fund lobbying groups that fight against ACA and SSM.
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    Hum, ok, I will not shop at Abercrombie, mainly because I am not 16...and I love ChickfilA, and do not really care what their CEO's opinion is; so, I guess, if it's food driven and I like their food...I will go back! Um, ChickfilA. ::drools:: ETA...these people do not have to work at Hobby Lobby if they don't agree with their policies. I'm just sayin'.nbsp;


    Agreed. I love chickfila and personally believe in what they stand for. Also, if an employee doesn't agree with the company's beliefs, then leave? I'm not saying I agree with their health plan but there are plenty other minimum wage jobs out there.
  • I absolutely believe in voting with my dollars.  We don't have a Hobby Lobby or Chik-Fil-A around here, but I wouldn't go there if we did.  And, like RedheadedBaker, I don't shop at pet stores that sell animals.  (ETA: And Wal-Mart, Salvation Army, and Papa John's, as Sleepy said.)

     

    FTR, I have no problem with people choosing not to use birth control, for religious or any other reasons, but I have a huge problem with them forcing their beliefs on their employees.  The money for health insurance comes out of employees' paychecks, and what the portion paid by employers is considered part of the benefits package--a better benefits package is a trade-off for lower pay--so the employer is NOT paying for their female employees' birth control pills any more than they are when a male employee buys condoms after cashing his paycheck.  Funny how that second scenario doesn't seem to bother these folks, though.

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    Absolutely. I won't eat Chik Fil A or shop at Hobby Lobby. I also won't shop at any pet supply stores that sell live animals.

    I agree with all of this!

       

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  • I tend not to shop at place that I feel treat their employees negatively or like people have mentioned, pet stores that treat animals inhumanely.

    As far as Hobby Lobby,  I feel that they have a right to run their business according to their beliefs.  They don't force their beliefs on me and until the Obama Care issue came up they weren't actively crusading to get contraceptives off the insurance of every business place.  They just do what they feel is right for the type of business they decided to establish.  If I need something from there I will buy it.  They pay their employees well and are very charitable from what I have researched.  Employees know going into the job the companies stance of religion, birth control, etc.  

    I'm not particularly religious, and I am very independent political wise.  I do think however if you as a person feel extremely strongly about a certain issue it is absolutely your right to not shop there as a way of protest. 




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    I tend not to shop at place that I feel treat their employees negatively or like people have mentioned, pet stores that treat animals inhumanely.

    As far as Hobby Lobby,  I feel that they have a right to run their business according to their beliefs.  They don't force their beliefs on me and until the Obama Care issue came up they weren't actively crusading to get contraceptives off the insurance of every business place.  They just do what they feel is right for the type of business they decided to establish.  If I need something from there I will buy it.  They pay their employees well and are very charitable from what I have researched.  Employees know going into the job the companies stance of religion, birth control, etc.  

    I'm not particularly religious, and I am very independent political wise.  I do think however if you as a person feel extremely strongly about a certain issue it is absolutely your right to not shop there as a way of protest. 

    So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?

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    Absolutely. I won't eat Chik Fil A or shop at Hobby Lobby. I also won't shop at any pet supply stores that sell live animals.


    Same for me on all of this. To go further i don't purchase products that participate in animal testing either. Which usually means I spend more money on everything but it is well worth it in my eyes.


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    I tend not to shop at place that I feel treat their employees negatively or like people have mentioned, pet stores that treat animals inhumanely.

    As far as Hobby Lobby,  I feel that they have a right to run their business according to their beliefs.  They don't force their beliefs on me and until the Obama Care issue came up they weren't actively crusading to get contraceptives off the insurance of every business place.  They just do what they feel is right for the type of business they decided to establish.  If I need something from there I will buy it.  They pay their employees well and are very charitable from what I have researched.  Employees know going into the job the companies stance of religion, birth control, etc.  

    I'm not particularly religious, and I am very independent political wise.  I do think however if you as a person feel extremely strongly about a certain issue it is absolutely your right to not shop there as a way of protest. 

    So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?

    I can get on board with you sleepy, but then 'Merica needs to not allow private companies or institutions...socialization will need to be mandatory. And while I think that's a fabulous idea, 'Merica cannot get behind being so liberal. So, until we collectively agree that we should be run differently, we allow companies and other institutions to be private and make their own rules.

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  • I don't have chick fil a or hobby lobby here but if I did I would probably still go there. People are gonna go there no matter what their political beliefs are.  There are probably plenty of companies out there I spend my money on that don't agree with my beliefs.  
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    I tend not to shop at place that I feel treat their employees negatively or like people have mentioned, pet stores that treat animals inhumanely.

    As far as Hobby Lobby,  I feel that they have a right to run their business according to their beliefs.  They don't force their beliefs on me and until the Obama Care issue came up they weren't actively crusading to get contraceptives off the insurance of every business place.  They just do what they feel is right for the type of business they decided to establish.  If I need something from there I will buy it.  They pay their employees well and are very charitable from what I have researched.  Employees know going into the job the companies stance of religion, birth control, etc.  

    I'm not particularly religious, and I am very independent political wise.  I do think however if you as a person feel extremely strongly about a certain issue it is absolutely your right to not shop there as a way of protest. 

    So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?


    they'd be running a business, not a ministry. They cannot force their employees to abide by their beliefs.

    N/m, read the whole quote tree, and see that we're really on the same side. Oops.
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    So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?

    I can get on board with you sleepy, but then 'Merica needs to not allow private companies or institutions...socialization will need to be mandatory. And while I think that's a fabulous idea, 'Merica cannot get behind being so liberal. So, until we collectively agree that we should be run differently, we allow companies and other institutions to be private and make their own rules.

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    Well, that's the end result of my logical train, obv. I think unfortunately it will have to reach a situation like that before people are actually willing to take a risk on real nationalization of health care. 

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    I tend not to shop at place that I feel treat their employees negatively or like people have mentioned, pet stores that treat animals inhumanely.

    As far as Hobby Lobby,  I feel that they have a right to run their business according to their beliefs.  They don't force their beliefs on me and until the Obama Care issue came up they weren't actively crusading to get contraceptives off the insurance of every business place.  They just do what they feel is right for the type of business they decided to establish.  If I need something from there I will buy it.  They pay their employees well and are very charitable from what I have researched.  Employees know going into the job the companies stance of religion, birth control, etc.  

    I'm not particularly religious, and I am very independent political wise.  I do think however if you as a person feel extremely strongly about a certain issue it is absolutely your right to not shop there as a way of protest. 

    So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?

    they'd be running a business, not a ministry. They cannot force their employees to abide by their beliefs. N/m, read the whole quote tree, and see that we're really on the same side. Oops.

    Ok good, I was just about to say I am confused...Smile

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  • Flame me but IDGAF about it and I will continue shopping at Hobby Lobby. The employees do have a choice to work there or not, yes I know the economy is hard but honestly I think they could easily find a job elsewhere. I also eat my Chick Fil A and love every bite.

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    So for argument's sake, what if the owners of a large business were Jehovah's Witness and didn't want to cover blood transfusions? What if they believe venereal disease is a punishment from God for fornication and don't want cover that treatment? What if they believe organ transplants are morally wrong?Is that ok? Where does it end, this deciding what not to cover? Who is to say what is sincere belief and what is the company wanting to cut costs?

    I can get on board with you sleepy, but then 'Merica needs to not allow private companies or institutions...socialization will need to be mandatory. And while I think that's a fabulous idea, 'Merica cannot get behind being so liberal. So, until we collectively agree that we should be run differently, we allow companies and other institutions to be private and make their own rules.

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    Well, that's the end result of my logical train, obv. I think unfortunately it will have to reach a situation like that before people are actually willing to take a risk on real nationalization of health care. 

    Oh and also, health insurance should not be dictated by your job. That is all.

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  • Now it makes sense on why so many older people work there.  I did not know this about the BC.  Everyone in this country gets to live by their own beliefs.  Just because I don't believe what they do doesn't mean I won't shop in their stores.  

    And I love me some Chick-fil-a.   

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  • So, you guys who won't go to a pet store that sells animals... reasons? Is this ALL pet stores that sell animals. I mean, I have definitely known a couple of pet stores who had live animals that were great places and great to their animals. My dad was the vet in town so I knew more than most. We actually sold some baby guinea pigs at one of them a couple of times. I'm just sort of surprised by how many of you posted that and I am curious now. I definitely don't like the big super store pet stores but I don't really have a problem with the small, family owned stores. 
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