February 2013 Moms

Banging this old drum: EBF and delaying solids

I know, I know, this horse is dead.  I'm not here to tell, I'm here to ask.

So Rhys is 5.5 months.  We have zero intention of introducing solid foods a moment before 6 months.  It's not happening, especially with the pile of food allergies in our family.  

He has been showing interest in food for a few weeks now, and has now moved on to full-out grabbing for food and trying to shove it into his mouth.  I know that this, alone, is more indicative of curiosity than of readiness for solid foods.  He also seems to be nursing more frequently--but that could be due to separation anxiety, fatigue, the fact that he just cut a tooth, or that we spent the last two weeks away from home.  IDK.

My pedi told us we could feel free to introduce solids when we were ready, and that, "If he starts sleeping poorly, [we] could start solids to help him sleep longer."  To me, that just seems like flawed logic.  Sure, babies wake bc they are hungry.  But I don't necessarily think shoving some sweet potatoes into his mouth is a fix-all.

So, what say ye, February 2013?  We've firmly established that a good number of us are following the WHO guidelines and waiting until, at minimum, six months.  But then what?  I don't think we've discussed how we know when it is right to start after that six month mark.  How did you decide your kid was ready? 

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Re: Banging this old drum: EBF and delaying solids

  • SagenSagen
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    I wouldn't worry about the date too much. At 5 months 3 weeks 6 days he won't be not ready, then wake up ready having arrived at 6 months. While it is better to wait closer to the 6 month mark or after, if they are ready a little before I think it is not a big deal to go ahead and give it to them. They don't have a calendar :)

     

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  • I'm going to wait until mine hits all those "requirements" - can sit up unassisted, interested, no more tongue thrust with a spoon, etc.  I think beginning to try out a pincher grasp is one too??  We might do a little cereal or oatmeal before that, but doubtful.  I think I've decided to go ahead with purees again too and then throw in some solid chunks later like I did with DS1.  And I certainly don't think it helps them sleep better.  I give your pedi the side-eye. ;)  Mostly, I'm holding off for selfish reasons related to breastfeeding and lack of a period.  Since I had one cycle at 12 weeks that didn't come back (no, no pregnant), I have a feeling that the start of solid food will bring it on if he even drops milk intake just a tiny bit. 

     

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  • FWIW, we have started solids, and it has ZERO impact on how full she is after. In fact, it seems to make her hungrier (or maybe just thristy?). She usually will down a bottle after. She stills eats the same amount of formula so I don't see it helping with sleep or making her fuller. We don't give her that much at all, and maybe thats the issue. It seems like what it is "before one, just for fun" She thinks it's fun, and so do we.

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    I'm going to wait until mine hits all those "requirements" - can sit up unassisted, interested, no more tongue thrust with a spoon, etc.  I think beginning to try out a pincher grasp is one too??  We might do a little cereal or oatmeal before that, but doubtful.  I think I've decided to go ahead with purees again too and then throw in some solid chunks later like I did with DS1.  And I certainly don't think it helps them sleep better.  I give your pedi the side-eye. ;)  Mostly, I'm holding off for selfish reasons related to breastfeeding and lack of a period.  Since I had one cycle at 12 weeks that didn't come back (no, no pregnant), I have a feeling that the start of solid food will bring it on if he even drops milk intake just a tiny bit. 

     

    Oh, believe me, I have plenty of thoroughly selfish reasons for wanting to delay.  That's why I'm trying to wade through all the research and find out what I should really be looking for in terms of readiness ;) 

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    I'm going to wait until mine hits all those "requirements" - can sit up unassisted, interested, no more tongue thrust with a spoon, etc.  I think beginning to try out a pincher grasp is one too??  We might do a little cereal or oatmeal before that, but doubtful.  I think I've decided to go ahead with purees again too and then throw in some solid chunks later like I did with DS1.  And I certainly don't think it helps them sleep better.  I give your pedi the side-eye. ;)  Mostly, I'm holding off for selfish reasons related to breastfeeding and lack of a period.  Since I had one cycle at 12 weeks that didn't come back (no, no pregnant), I have a feeling that the start of solid food will bring it on if he even drops milk intake just a tiny bit. 

     

    FTM here who hasn't started solids yet, but this is what we're doing. I'd rather wait a few more weeks and wait until he shows all the indications that he is ready than start too early. What will he lose if we start him at 6, 6.5, 7, or even 8 months? I think I would follow your gut instinct though and wait. What did you start DS1 off with when he started solids? I think with us we'll try purees since it is easier, but I'm still debating this in my mind. All I know is that both DH and I want to wait until at least 6 months.

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  • I always say we are going to wait until a year, but different kids have been ready at different times.  #2 had his first bite of food around 10 months and hated it.  We waited another month and at 11 months he seemed to enjoy it, so we went with it.  #3 had her first bite around 11 months and loved it, so we never looked back.

    I think my decision to try it with my kids is a combination of factors - desperation with the sleep situation in our house (and hope that food will help), readiness on my part for the extra work required in feeding another person at mealtime, and most importantly, just a gut feeling that my baby would benefit from it now and is ready (can sit up and eat on their own).

    I honestly believe food isn't necessary before a year.  I think milk provides everything they need.  I also don't feel like curiousity about food means they are ready for it or that eating it will help a baby sleep better (if anything, the opposite has been true in my house - there is always an adjustment period where it seems they sleep worse at first as they get used to the different type of digestion).  But eating is fun for babies and I do think the sensations in their mouths and different flavors help them learn about the world around them.  I think, like you, six months is a good minimum.  Once you hit that point it's more when you are ready than anything else.  Your baby doesn't need it, so it's not like you're going to harm him if you hold off longer.

        
  • jd614jd614
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    We started cereal at 5 mos. I wanted to wait til 6 but DS was ready. Just like Rhys he's grabbing our food and staring at us when we eat. I tried
    One spoonful at first and he took it like a champ. Now we are up to 2 tbsp at night and on Saturday we are going to introduce avocado . It's not helping with sleep.. Actually DS is going thru a major sleep regression right now.. So I wouldn't do it for that reason . But I don't think starting at 5.5 mos or 6 mos makes any difference . If he's showing interest and eating more
    Frequently then I think he's hungry and ready and it's totally
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  • I'm planning to go by this Kelly mom article.  I really like the suggestions for letting baby participate in mealtime without giving him/her solids (BM slushies!)

     http://kellymom.com/nutrition/starting-solids/solids-when/

  • We are going to start at 5.5 months because I go back to work at 6 months and would like to give him a few weeks to get used to the spoon before he goes to daycare.

  • I'm pretty sick of having to explain over and over again to my in laws why we are waiting till 6 months to introduce solids but here is my opinion on the matter.  It isn't that serious.  I think as open and accepting as we bumpies are of ff versus bf, things get a little judgey on this board regarding solid food introduction.  Now that most of our babies are 5 months, I think it probably isn't that huge of a deal to wait or not to wait a couple more weeks.  After all, most of us started solids at 3 months.  I too am interested in how everyone is going to introduce  solids rather than when.  I appreciate the post that gets this ball rolling. 
  • Thanks for sharing your thoughts, everyone.  I read your replies, and DH and I talked about it, and we feel even more confident in our decision to wait.  As I said, I don't take his interest in food as an indication of readiness.  I think he's just a curious baby.  That doesn't mean he needs squash.  We can't think of a single valid reason that OUR baby "should" have solids, so we're waiting until we see some reason that he should.
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  • Did anyone see the articles from earlier this months out the timing of solids and a connection to diabetes? Thoughts? 

    I don't remember where I read it specifically.

    DD is 5 months and we are waiting until closer to 6.  

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  • Like you we plan to wait until 6 months, but I have said I would start him sooner if he started showing signs. I believe in following a baby's signals, and even if I am not so excited to start solids, I will still follow his cues. We would only give tiny tastes until 6 months, though - like a finger dipped in a sauce ( recommended by our doc as the only food before 6 months as a way to stimulate taste buds).

    we did blw with our first at 6 months a d would not want to start that too early. 

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  • We are not planning to consider starting solids until 6.5 months.  Dr wants to see DS for his 6 month visit before we start feeding, and then we are heading off on vacation, so we'll wait until after.
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    Like you we plan to wait until 6 months, but I have said I would start him sooner if he started showing signs. I believe in following a baby's signals, and even if I am not so excited to start solids, I will still follow his cues. We would only give tiny tastes until 6 months, though - like a finger dipped in a sauce ( recommended by our doc as the only food before 6 months as a way to stimulate taste buds).

    we did blw with our first at 6 months a d would not want to start that too early. 

    We do the finger tasting thing too. I put some lime juice on my finger and DD loved it! Overall though, I think we're going to wait until around 7 months to start solids. There was an article on kellymom that said something about waiting until at least 7 months to decrease the risk of anemia, which I have dealt with since I was little. Also, my fianc? tends to have gastrointestinal issues, so we'd like to allow a little more time for DD's digestive system to mature (she is also a reflux baby). And a little more on the selfish side, we cloth diaper so putting off having to spray her poopy diapers will be nice!

    At first I was planning on doing strictly BLW, but recently found out I'll receive infant foods from WIC once DD is six months. So we'll probably do a combination of purees, fortified grains for iron, and small pieces of food, which I think might give her a chance to experience more textures anyway. 

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  • We started DD with some "tastes" around 4.5 months but when I say taste, I mean just that. I don't even think it was a teaspoon of rice cereal. Then I discovered about all the arsenic in rice cereal so I stopped it immediately. We waited a few weeks, then tried again with oatmeal- again, a VERY small quantity. Ever few days, I would give her a little taste of something, just so she could move it around her mouth, experiment a bit but definitely nothing that would be considered a "meal". She's a little over 5 months now and we've moving into a more routine feeding schedule but its still not every day and she's only getting about 2 tbsp MAX in any one feeding. (She only gets solids once a day if she's getting any.)

    Overall, it's gone fine. We've tried and tasted new flavors and she does seem to enjoy it. We bought a self-feeding "spoon" for her. It's not really a spoon, it's more like a binky on a stick that I put some food on and she can stick in her mouth. She likes that alot!

    I will say her gas has gone up and on some days it seems like she doesn't sleep as well because she's gassy but she could also be teething and/or left over remnants of the 4month sleep regression nightmare.

    I'm sure it's ok to hold off a bit longer. Any thoughts on just giving him some "tastes" and not real meals?  

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