April 2013 Moms

rice in bottles

so my LO is sleeping from 82 which is good. and I am not adding rice to her last bottle.. but everyone is saying to add in a little rice and she will sleep through the night.. well my dr said that they don't do that cuz its just adding more cals.. and that its not proven to help sleep through the night.. but my mom did that with me and I was fine and slept through the night.. she is eating anywhere from 25 ozs and is 10 weeks old.. I mix breast and formula in her bottles..

is anyone else giving rice to help their LO sleep better..

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  • I was told by our ped that our LO wasn't to have anything but breast milk and formula until he's 4 months old. Then we would discuss adding rice cereal to his bottles. I've heard some mixed reviews on adding rice cereal to bottles, due to choking hazards. Not really sure what the right choice is going to be for us until we talk with our doctor about it at our appointment in August. 
  • No rice cereal used to be recommended for 34 months. Now they say to wait until the 6 month mark in an effort to prevent childhood obesity. A friend of mine is an early childhood education specialist and informed me of this. However as with all parenting advice. Take it with a grain of salt, our parents did everything "wrong" by today's standards, heck there weren't even real car seats until the late 50s and all these people in the world still lived :
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    Most of the advice our parents were given when raising us has been deemed to be incorrect/putdated. Most pedi's will recommend you do not give baby rice cereal until at least 4 mo preferably 6 mo. It actually hasn't been shown to help a baby STTN and at this age your baby should be waking for at least one, probably two, night feedings in order to thrive.
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  • Could YOU sleep with a full stomach of food?? I've read babies won't sleep if they're too full. Plus, isn't it a choking hazard to add it?

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  • NO!   There are many reasons cereal and rice in bottles for young babies is bad, I'll let you do your own research.

     

    I will add that sleeping 6 hours is considered STTN by most pediatricians.    If you want help so that YOU sleep through the night could you put LO to bed later?  I can't go to sleep at 8pm so I let LO nap, then I feed her around 1030 so she goes to bed around 11.  She'll then sleep until 4 or 5 so I get 5 to 6 hours sleep. 

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  • I wouldn't, isn't worth choking. There was another mommy that recently had a very scary experience with rice in bottle... Baby started choking well after being fed, scary!

    I am convinced the reason our parents generation had much more success with STTN is they put us on our tummies. Which we know isn't right but babies do sleep a ton better. Again not worth the risk. ( my mom has been giving me the speech of how I slept all night too, and we are at 10 weeks and no where close) 

  • A LC told me in a breast feeding class I took that feeding cereal before 4 months is linked to juvenile diabetes.  

    And I am really lucky too, DS sleeps an average of 7 hours on his own.  Even if he didn't I would not add cereal though.  Just my opinion.  :) 

  • Where did your mom get her medical degree?
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    No rice cereal used to be recommended for 34 months. Now they say to wait until the 6 month mark in an effort to prevent childhood obesity. A friend of mine is an early childhood education specialist and informed me of this. However as with all parenting advice. Take it with a grain of salt, our parents did everything "wrong" by today's standards, heck there weren't even real car seats until the late 50s and all these people in the world still lived :


    A lot more children died in accidents. Also highways and going over 50mph wasn't as prevalent. So your logic is really genius.
  • Ladies, what's with all the byotchiness in this thread?

     OP, I think you should follow your doctors advice.  It is really hard to get inundated with way too much info / advice, so I decided to just stick to "single source of truth" and that is my pediatrician.  Your mom (or, frankly, we here on TB), don't have the right answers for you, as we are not doctors.

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    I wouldn't, isn't worth choking. There was another mommy that recently had a very scary experience with rice in bottle... Baby started choking well after being fed, scary!I am convinced the reason our parents generation had much more success with STTN is they put us on our tummies. Which we know isn't right but babies do sleep a ton better. Again not worth the risk. my mom has been giving me the speech of how I slept all night too, and we are at 10 weeks and no where closenbsp;

    That was me with choking scare..plus it did not help her sleep longer
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    NO!   There are many reasons cereal and rice in bottles for young babies is bad, I'll let you do your own research.

     

    I will add that sleeping 6 hours is considered STTN by most pediatricians.    If you want help so that YOU sleep through the night could you put LO to bed later?  I can't go to sleep at 8pm so I let LO nap, then I feed her around 1030 so she goes to bed around 11.  She'll then sleep until 4 or 5 so I get 5 to 6 hours sleep. 

     

    I completely agree with this.  I put my LO to bed at 10 and he'll usually wake up at 3 to eat.  If not, he makes it until 5 and I consider myself pretty lucky to have slept that long!!!   

  • Ummm no. Absolutely not. It's empty calories, a choking hazard, and your pedi said not to. Don't be so selfish.,, six hours is great and baby will sleep longer stretches with time.
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    Where did your mom get her medical degree?

    The School of Hard Knocks, yo. 

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  • ok ppl. I was just asking opinions. . and some of u are just being smartaes.. and there is no need for that.. I don't pist on here that much but when I do there seems to be all these ppl that are just mean.. I just really pray that doesn't rub off on ur children.. bullies learn from somewhere and mostly their parents.. anyway like I said I was seeing if anyone had added it or started feeding yet and yall took it to far taljing about my mother!! that's ridiculous! !

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    Where did your mom get her medical degree?

    LOL. Doesn't everyone's mother or mother in law or neighbor or check out person at the grocery store have a medical degree?

    OP, no. Honestly I think sleep is more child dependent than food dependent. DD eats markedly less than her brother did and sleeps better. He didn't STTN until 10 months and at 6 weeks she was consistently going 4 to 6 hours. Every kid is different and rice cereal is unlikely to be a magic cure. Just like there are ff kids who STTN late and EBF kids who STTN early...
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    Where did your mom get her medical degree?

     

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    Ummm no. Absolutely not. It's empty calories, a choking hazard, and your pedi said not to. Don't be so selfish.,, six hours is great and baby will sleep longer stretches with time.

     

    No kidding. I would LOVE to have 6 hours straight of sleep! But yeah, I'd go with your pediatrician's advice. It's a bit more updated than what your mom knows (mine has also advised me to give my girls rice in a bottle as newborns) but it is proven not to be necessary. And also, a baby will sleep very long stretches when he/she is ready to. Unfortunately, there's not much you can do to "get" them to.

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  • I will totally admit that I gave DS cereal earlier than most people just shy of 4 months. But I had talked to the pedi about it and we spoon fed. That said I would def ask your pedi before doing it.And donit expect that to be a magic fix. Some kids wake up overnight even after they start solids! Every baby sleeps differently.
  • DD1 didn't sleep through the night until she was two, so obviously solids didn't do a thing.
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    ok ppl. I was just asking opinions. . and some of u are just being smartaes.. and there is no need for that.. I don't pist on here that much but when I do there seems to be all these ppl that are just mean.. I just really pray that doesn't rub off on ur children.. bullies learn from somewhere and mostly their parents.. anyway like I said I was seeing if anyone had added it or started feeding yet and yall took it to far taljing about my mother!! that's ridiculous! !


    I agree. People can be harsh...when you are just asking for help because you obviously don't know. I'm a first time mom with no female role models for advise aside from my inlaws so I like to ask questions here for help...not to be made fun of. Sorry you are being treated in a way you feel bullied. I wish I had advice but I don't plan to use rice cereal. We are still nursing every 2 to 3 hours during the night and I still don't feel there is enough valid reason to give anything until at least 6 months.
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    One research article that shows feeding rice did not help babies STTN: 

    http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=514762

    and: No definitive link to rice and diabetes, but it might.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14519705?dopt=Abstract

    " Conclusion: There may be a window of exposure to cereals in infancy outside which initial exposure increases IA risk in susceptible children."

     

    A lot of the good things rice cereal does is provide iron for kids, because it is fortified with iron. Also most kids aren't allergic to it and it is bland so it is easy to start with.  Doctors are starting to rethink it though, because there is no nutrition (other than what is added to it) and it may set kids up to liking processed foods:

    Not a scientific study, but the newspaper article that brought it to many people's attention:

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/yourlife/parenting-family/babies/2010-12-01-babyfood01_st_N.htm ;

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