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Maybe it's just me but I don't understand why so many moms are complaining that the babies Are waking to eat . What the f did you expect ? Why do these women have children if sleep is of greater importance then their child's health? Your baby is hungry so feed it . I'm so sick of all the sleep training crap and cio. If the sound of your child crying doesn't bother you then you don't diserve to have that child . I don't mean to insult or be mean I just don't understand parents who put themselves before the child
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  • Many moms come here to vent and commiserate, I know that's why I started posting.  I'm sure the moms complaining aren't starving their children if that's what you are concerned about.  

    Many parents sleep train; if you are sick of reading those posts then stop clicking on them.  It's that simple. 

     Why is this posted on the breastfeeding board?

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    Maybe it's just me but I don't understand why so many moms are complaining that the babies Are waking to eat . What the f did you expect ? Why do these women have children if sleep is of greater importance then their child's health? Your baby is hungry so feed it . I'm so sick of all the sleep training crap and cio. If the sound of your child crying doesn't bother you then you don't diserve to have that child . I don't mean to insult or be mean I just don't understand parents who put themselves before the child

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    I posted this here because this where I read the posts.i wrote this after reading a post about a nursing mom letting her kid scream cause she didn't feel like nursing him during the night.
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    Maybe it's just me but I don't understand why so many moms are complaining that the babies Are waking to eat . What the f did you expect ? Why do these women have children if sleep is of greater importance then their child's health? Your baby is hungry so feed it . I'm so sick of all the sleep training crap and cio. If the sound of your child crying doesn't bother you then you don't diserve to have that child . I don't mean to insult or be mean I just don't understand parents who put themselves before the child

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    Many moms come here to vent and commiserate, I know that's why I started posting.nbsp; I'm sure the moms complaining aren't starving their children if that's what you are concerned about.nbsp;nbsp;Many parents sleep train; if you are sick of reading those posts then stop clicking on them.nbsp; It's that simple.nbsp; nbsp;Why is this posted on the breastfeeding board?

    This. It's called venting. And guess what else...sleep training is done to teach babies to self soothe. If they don't have that skill, you have to teach it, it's part of being a parent.
  • I don't know if I'd say things quite as harsh as op BUT I do agree, I hate moms complaining about they're 3,4,5,6 month olds still getting up once or twice a night! That's what kids do, my 2 year old was up once a night until 2 my 1 year old still eats once a night. I don't agree with CIO or sleep training until older.

    Now I do think op said things too harsh but I get the vent
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  • I understand getting upset about little babies being left to cry, but sleep training a child closer to one isn't that bad. I do agree that on some boards there is talk of wanting a two month old to STTN, and expecting that is silly. Everyone can hope of course :) Expecting an older baby to sleep longer isn't ridiculous, not all can do it, but it isn't out of the realm of normal.

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    my 7 month old was up 7 times last night.  and its been that way.  every night.  for MONTHS.  so yes, i'm tired, and yes, i would love for my baby to sttn (or for i don't know, more than 90 minutes at a time) and yes, when i hear him cry at night after i've JUST fallen back to sleep i want to punch a hole in the wall, and yes, i'm considering sleep training.  i still have every intention of feeding him when he's hungry, but feeling the way i do doesn't mean i love my son any less or make me a bad mom.  it's all about perspective.
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  • Obviously your child sleeps well to the point you are OK with it.  Some kids are up every half an hour to the point their parents are walking zombies. 

    I didn't read the post you are referencing, but I don't think an overly sleep deprived mom is a good mom either.  And sometimes the baby isn't hungry just waking out of habit.  If they are hungry then obviously feed them.  

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    Obviously your child sleeps well to the point you are OK with it.  Some kids are up every half an hour to the point their parents are walking zombies. 

    I didn't read the post you are referencing, but I don't think an overly sleep deprived mom is a good mom either.  And sometimes the baby isn't hungry just waking out of habit.  If they are hungry then obviously feed them.  

    This.

    I don't believe in STing under 6 months at all. I don't believe in STing just to make babies STTN at an early age or before they are ready. But some babies do need ST more than others and are up many times a night. I've gotten fortunate with mine; she mostly only wakes to eat so we haven't had to ST yet -though some people would probably consider it a problem that my 1 year old doesn't STTN. She can and does self soothe herself for other wakings in the night. 

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    my 7 month old was up 7 times last night.  and its been that way.  every night.  for MONTHS.  so yes, i'm tired, and yes, i would love for my baby to sttn (or for i don't know, more than 90 minutes at a time) and yes, when i hear him cry at night after i've JUST fallen back to sleep i want to punch a hole in the wall, and yes, i'm considering sleep training.  i still have every intention of feeding him when he's hungry, but feeling the way i do doesn't mean i love my son any less or make me a bad mom.  it's all about perspective.

    Well said.  That sounds really difficult!  Obviously people like the OP have never experienced this kind of sleep deprivation or they wouldn't be so judgemental.  Hugs, it sounds like you are a great mom!

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  • Like pp it is NOT HEALTHY for a baby to not sleep more than 90 minutes at a time, when older than 6 M. Yes bf babies eat motn for longer but if they have flopped days and nights they need help correcting it. You know what makes me mad? Moms who judge and people who stick a boob in a babies mouth every 5 minutes because their kid cries to make them be quiet.
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    Obviously your child sleeps well to the point you are OK with it.nbsp; Some kids are up every half an hour to the point their parents are walking zombies.nbsp; I didn't read the post you are referencing, but I don't think an overly sleep deprived mom is a good mom either.nbsp; And sometimes the baby isn't hungry just waking out of habit.nbsp; If they are hungry then obviously feed them. nbsp;


    All of this. It also isn't just about the parents' lack of sleep, if baby wakes up so much they aren't getting enough sleep its not healthy. My son can not self soothe. We sleep train to teach him that, not to starve him. I happily feed him at least once a night but he has gone many nights without eating.

    Also you probably shouldn't say that you don't want to insult or be mean yet then say that moms who sleep train don't "diserve" their kids.

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  • Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.  We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.  We have not night weaned him.  You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.
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    Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.nbsp; We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.nbsp; We have not night weaned him.nbsp; You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.


    Yes definitely! It seems those most against sleep training are also usually incredibly uninformed about it. They also often have the babies that just went to sleep by themselves and STTN since 6 weeks.

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    There is a point where quality sleep for LO is more important than a midnight snack. Not all LO make that transition on their own, which is where parenting comes in.

    I don't judge but I do smirk when I read the *yawn* posts by people who refuse to sleep train.

  • This is so rude.
    Most moms know they will have to feed their babies at night. If you had an issue with a specific post you should have replied there.
    I am not putting my desire for sleep above my sons health by sleep training him. I'm parenting. He was waking every 45 min to 3 hrs every night since he was 6 months old despite my best attempts at gentle no cry sleep training. He was waking out of habit, mostly, not hunger. He needed more sleep, and so did I. We are working on a method now that does involve some crying, which I hate, but we are all sleeping better and healthier for it. [Sleep is just as important as food for our overall health.]
    Maybe now that I'm getting more sleep I can start weaning off the antidepressants I've had to start taking after months of sleep deprivation. :/
  • Sometimes you have to put yourself before your child. If you are too sleep deprived, you can be dangerous to your child and to others. Lack of sleep is a major factor in postpartum depression. So seriously, quit with the judgment. A parent complaining about lack of sleep isn't being selfish. Is it a cross we have to bear, especially in the first six months of a baby's life? Yes. Does that mean no one is ever allowed to gripe about the exhaustion that comes with being a new parent? Not at all.

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    Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.  We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.  We have not night weaned him.  You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.

    This. We did some sleep training with DS at about 7 months when he was waking every hour. I still feed him 2 to 3 times a night. He is not starving, but he did learn to fall asleep on his own.

     

     

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    Like pp it is NOT HEALTHY for a baby to not sleep more than 90 minutes at a time, when older than 6 M. Yes bf babies eat motn for longer but if they have flopped days and nights they need help correcting it. You know what makes me mad? Moms who judge and people who stick a boob in a babies mouth every 5 minutes because their kid cries to make them be quiet.


    Whaaaat? Way to respond with a judgmental post.
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    Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.  We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.  We have not night weaned him.  You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.

    This. We did some sleep training with DS at about 7 months when he was waking every hour. I still feed him 2 to 3 times a night. He is not starving, but he did learn to fall asleep on his own.

    if you ladies are willing to share, i'm very interested to know what sleep training methods you used.  DS is 7 months, waking anywhere from every 45-120 minutes at night.  he needs his butt patted to go down (or back to sleep).  i don't want to night wean yet, just want him to fall asleep and stay asleep- or get back to sleep without me.  i haven't found many people in a similar situation to ours so i'd love to hear what worked for you. 

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    Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.  We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.  We have not night weaned him.  You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.

    This. We did some sleep training with DS at about 7 months when he was waking every hour. I still feed him 2 to 3 times a night. He is not starving, but he did learn to fall asleep on his own.

    if you ladies are willing to share, i'm very interested to know what sleep training methods you used.  DS is 7 months, waking anywhere from every 45-120 minutes at night.  he needs his butt patted to go down (or back to sleep).  i don't want to night wean yet, just want him to fall asleep and stay asleep- or get back to sleep without me.  i haven't found many people in a similar situation to ours so i'd love to hear what worked for you. 

    We started with Sleepeasy (like Ferber) but quickly realized that full extinction was best for DS.  It only took a couple nights for bedtime and about a week to get naps down pat.  Babycenter also has a great sleep training group with great info.

    http://community.babycenter.com/post/a5417415/how_to_successfully_teach_a_baby_to_sleep_-_3rd_ed.

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    Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.  We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.  We have not night weaned him.  You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.

    This. We did some sleep training with DS at about 7 months when he was waking every hour. I still feed him 2 to 3 times a night. He is not starving, but he did learn to fall asleep on his own.

    if you ladies are willing to share, i'm very interested to know what sleep training methods you used.  DS is 7 months, waking anywhere from every 45-120 minutes at night.  he needs his butt patted to go down (or back to sleep).  i don't want to night wean yet, just want him to fall asleep and stay asleep- or get back to sleep without me.  i haven't found many people in a similar situation to ours so i'd love to hear what worked for you. 


    We basically followed the Sleep Lady Shuffle.
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    Also I think that there is obvious confusion between sleep training and night weaning.  We sleep trained our son because he was waking every 45 minute sleep cycle and couldn't put himself to sleep for naps and bedtime.  We have not night weaned him.  You have to be able to differentiate if your kid is hungry and unable to fall back asleep.

    This. We did some sleep training with DS at about 7 months when he was waking every hour. I still feed him 2 to 3 times a night. He is not starving, but he did learn to fall asleep on his own.

    if you ladies are willing to share, i'm very interested to know what sleep training methods you used.  DS is 7 months, waking anywhere from every 45-120 minutes at night.  he needs his butt patted to go down (or back to sleep).  i don't want to night wean yet, just want him to fall asleep and stay asleep- or get back to sleep without me.  i haven't found many people in a similar situation to ours so i'd love to hear what worked for you. 

    We used the extinction method b/c I knew DD would freak out more if we came in to check on her in intervals.  It only took her 3 nights and she got it.  She couldn't self soothe and she was waking after 45-60 minutes of being put down for the night (and a few times during the night as well).  Yes, it sucked hearing her cry, but she needed to learn how to self-soothe.  I can't help her self-soothe sleep...it's a skill she needs to learn for herself.  Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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    Many moms come here to vent and commiserate, I know that's why I started posting.nbsp; I'm sure the moms complaining aren't starving their children if that's what you are concerned about.nbsp;nbsp;Many parents sleep train; if you are sick of reading those posts then stop clicking on them.nbsp; It's that simple.nbsp; nbsp;Why is this posted on the breastfeeding board?

    This. It's called venting. And guess what else...sleep training is done to teach babies to self soothe. If they don't have that skill, you have to teach it, it's part of being a parent.
    babies are not supposed to self soothe , we are supposed to soothe them , that's our job
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    Many moms come here to vent and commiserate, I know that's why I started posting.nbsp; I'm sure the moms complaining aren't starving their children if that's what you are concerned about.nbsp;nbsp;Many parents sleep train; if you are sick of reading those posts then stop clicking on them.nbsp; It's that simple.nbsp; nbsp;Why is this posted on the breastfeeding board?
    This. It's called venting. And guess what else...sleep training is done to teach babies to self soothe. If they don't have that skill, you have to teach it, it's part of being a parent.
    babies are not supposed to self soothe , we are supposed to soothe them , that's our job
    New babies shouldn't be left to self soothe, but there is a point when it is necessary.  Do you really think it is healthy for a child to need mommy to rock them to sleep because that child was never able to learn how to go to sleep on their own as a baby? Haven't you ever heard of parents dealing with screaming children that refuse to go to bed unless their parents lay next to them until they are asleep? 

    Somechildren have to be taught this skill, otherwise it can have lasting effects that cause problems with sleeping for a very long time.n 

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    Many moms come here to vent and commiserate, I know that's why I started posting.nbsp; I'm sure the moms complaining aren't starving their children if that's what you are concerned about.nbsp;nbsp;Many parents sleep train; if you are sick of reading those posts then stop clicking on them.nbsp; It's that simple.nbsp; nbsp;Why is this posted on the breastfeeding board?
    This. It's called venting. And guess what else...sleep training is done to teach babies to self soothe. If they don't have that skill, you have to teach it, it's part of being a parent.
    babies are not supposed to self soothe , we are supposed to soothe them , that's our job

     

    Umm, little newborn babies, yes, we soothe them. Six month olds? No, we have to teach them how to soothe themselves. Duh. 

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