1st Trimester

Deli Meat

I know the first time I was pregnant my Dr told me know to eat deli meat from a case- but that the pre-packed kind was okay. Does anyone know why? I catered a lunch for a board meeting at work this week and there is left overs that I really want to eat for lunch- but not if it is actually harmful. TIA!
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Re: Deli Meat

  • My OB never told me to avoid deli meats - just to eat them in moderation, go for turkey and chicken over beef, ham, and the processed ones, etc. He also recommended trying to only eat a brand without preservatives, such as Boar's Head.

    I was told the issue with deli meat is the amount of salt, preservatives and nitrates in them is so high.

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  • Just eat it. You're more likely to get sick from cantelope, lettuce, or spinach.
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  • The concern is listeria. My doctor told me that if I want to eat deli meat all I crave are sandwiches I can in moderation. I have been told to heat the meat first.

    This article supports everything I've been told by my doctor.

    http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/listeria.html

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  • Listeriosis is caused by a type of bacteria called Listeria monocytogenes. Heating deli meats until steaming hot will kill the bacteria if it's present.

    Also the Nitrates so you don't want to eat too much if  you do decide to eat them. 

    This is my understanding: These are things that may not make you sick but could harm your fetus.

  • My assumption (not based on any OB's advice or research) is that if you want to eat deli meat, it's better to get it sliced fresh from the deli counter rather the pre-packaged stuff. The pre-packaged stuff has probably been sitting around longer. 

    The reason they advise heating the meat is that listeria, unlike other food-born bacteria, is not killed by cold temperatures, only heat. Of course, it's very rare for deli meat to be infected with listeria. I think the last outbreak was in 1998.

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  • I would think it has a lot to do with temperature. If deli meat is not stored correctly you can get sick.That goes with anyone though.

    I honestly had not heard about it before until #3 this time. In fact with my 2nd I was a GM at Panera Bread and ate sandwiches/soups/salads all the time. I was super healthy.

     

    I eat deli meat sandwiches once a week or so now- and only from places I trust. My Dr has not said to avoid it and so far everything with baby looks great.

     

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    The concern is listeria. My doctor told me that if I want to eat deli meat all I crave are sandwiches I can in moderation. I have been told to heat the meat first. This article supports everything I've been told by my doctor. http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancycomplications/listeria.html

    Except listeria isn't something moderation will help. Its a bacteria that is introduced, once, then makes you sick. Limiting your deli meat intake is good in regard to sodium, nitrates, etc, but won't help with you catching/not catching listeria. Like PP said, the last listeria outbreak linked to lunch meat was 15 years ago.

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  • I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

  • I've been told on here to avoid deli meat. I did research on it and it says to limit your intake. So I have Jimmy Johns once a week instead of once a day like I want it.
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    I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

    Not true about the sushi.  Doctors don't want you eating raw sushi because of the risk of food poisoning.   It doesn't affect the baby directly but with all the throwing up/diarrhea that occurs from food poisoning, you can get dehydrated which isn't good for the baby.  

    Everything boils down to what you are comfortable with.  If you are eating sushi at a reputable place, it is fine.  Same with deli meat. 

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  • The worry is listeria. However, you are more likely to get sick from spinach or cantaloupe than deli meat. If you are really worry than heat it up until it steams. 

    The other issue is nitrates. You can get the nitrate free deli meat and bacon if you are worried about it.

    I say eat the deli meat and pasteurized soft cheese people. You are pregnant, not made of glass.  

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    I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

    Make sure you aren't eating any cantelope, lettuce, spinach, chicken, or milk if you are that concerned with listeria.

     

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    I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

    Not true about the sushi.  Doctors don't want you eating raw sushi because of the risk of food poisoning.   It doesn't affect the baby directly but with all the throwing up/diarrhea that occurs from food poisoning, you can get dehydrated which isn't good for the baby.  

    Everything boils down to what you are comfortable with.  If you are eating sushi at a reputable place, it is fine.  Same with deli meat. 

    Food poisoning is caused by bacteria. Guess what listeria is genius.

     

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    I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

    Not true about the sushi.  Doctors don't want you eating raw sushi because of the risk of food poisoning.   It doesn't affect the baby directly but with all the throwing up/diarrhea that occurs from food poisoning, you can get dehydrated which isn't good for the baby.  

    Everything boils down to what you are comfortable with.  If you are eating sushi at a reputable place, it is fine.  Same with deli meat. 

    Food poisoning is caused by bacteria. Guess what listeria is genius.

     

     

    I understand that.  There are different kinds of bacteria however and listeria isn't the bacteria that is found in sushi that causes you to have food poisoning.  Food poisoning is caused by samonella and other bacteria.  Just clarifying for everyone else since you have it all figured out. 

    ETA: clarification 

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  • My OB said that I could eat deli meat as long as it wasn't green and fuzzy. Just use common sense and eat it in moderation. 
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    I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

    Not true about the sushi.  Doctors don't want you eating raw sushi because of the risk of food poisoning.   It doesn't affect the baby directly but with all the throwing up/diarrhea that occurs from food poisoning, you can get dehydrated which isn't good for the baby.  

    Everything boils down to what you are comfortable with.  If you are eating sushi at a reputable place, it is fine.  Same with deli meat. 

    Food poisoning is caused by bacteria. Guess what listeria is genius.

     

     

    I understand that.  There are different kinds of bacteria however and listeria isn't the bacteria that is found in sushi that causes you to have food poisoning.  Food poisoning is caused by samonella and other bacteria.  Just clarifying for everyone else since you have it all figured out. 

    ETA: clarification 

    Um, what? It most certainly can be. Just because there isn't a massive outbreak of it doesn't mean that can't/doesn't happen. Listeria isn't the only one out there, but it is pretty damn stupid to say you can't get listeria from eating sushi.

    Mercury is the bigger concern (which is still minimal) with sushi than bacteria unless you buy yours at the gas station or sumshit.

     

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    image KA92013:

    I'm sure what PP said about the last listeria outbreak might be true, but personally, if there's is any risk of having a miscarriage from eating infected deli meat, I would rather just avoid that risk altogether.  The same can be said for eating raw sushi.  Most likely nothing will happen, like PPs have said with them, but I don't want to risk it and can hold off on eating these things for a couple more months.

     Or better yet, just heat the meat in the microwave or have paninis! Smile

    Not true about the sushi.  Doctors don't want you eating raw sushi because of the risk of food poisoning.   It doesn't affect the baby directly but with all the throwing up/diarrhea that occurs from food poisoning, you can get dehydrated which isn't good for the baby.  

    Everything boils down to what you are comfortable with.  If you are eating sushi at a reputable place, it is fine.  Same with deli meat. 

    Food poisoning is caused by bacteria. Guess what listeria is genius.

     

     

    I understand that.  There are different kinds of bacteria however and listeria isn't the bacteria that is found in sushi that causes you to have food poisoning.  Food poisoning is caused by samonella and other bacteria.  Just clarifying for everyone else since you have it all figured out. 

    ETA: clarification 

    Um, what? It most certainly can be. Just because there isn't a massive outbreak of it doesn't mean that can't/doesn't happen. Listeria isn't the only one out there, but it is pretty damn stupid to say you can't get listeria from eating sushi.

    Mercury is the bigger concern (which is still minimal) with sushi than bacteria unless you buy yours at the gas station or sumshit.

     

    Ok 

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