February 2012 Moms

Fruit/veggie pouches

So my DD never liked purees.  She just wouldn't let us feed them to her, so we sort of did a BLW approach to her eating.  She is eating pretty well now, but still has no teeth, so we are still somewhat limited to what we can feed her, especially when it comes to fruits and veggies. 

We had a bunch of puree pouches left over from when we started with purees, so I gave one to her the other day, and she grabbed it and sucked it dry.  I remember reading on here that people thought it wasn't really appropriate to eat those pouches that way, and I'm really curious why.  

I'm now starting to think this could be a great way to get her some fruits and veggies and some additional calories while she still has no teeth, but I'm wondering if I'm starting a bad habit or if there is something else wrong with doing this that I'm missing.

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  • Our LO is only eating carbs (mac and cheese, roasted potatoes, etc) so we talked to the pedi and we're going to give her purees at every meal for fruit/veggies/protien.  I don't see what the problem would be.  We'll still offer her the fruit, veggies and meat, and hope that she eventually will start eating them again.
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  • I use pouches as a way to get veggies in when she's teething and refuses to eat. So, for the last four days. There was a whole brouhaha about it on the SAHM board, and really, I do not see what the problem is. DD loves the pouches. Like, a lot. 

    FWIW, she doesn't seem to use her teeth at all to eat fruits or veggies. But, ymmv. 

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    I use pouches as a way to get veggies in when she's teething and refuses to eat. So, for the last four days. There was a whole brouhaha about it on the SAHM board, and really, I do not see what the problem is. DD loves the pouches. Like, a lot. 

    FWIW, she doesn't seem to use her teeth at all to eat fruits or veggies. But, ymmv. 

    Running over to SAH board to see if I can find that post. 

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  • I let Austin suck his pouch. He has one everyday for a snack and he loves it!
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  • Is your question about feeding them the pouches or them eating straight out of the pouch?

    I see no problem with them still eating pures after a year and my pedi even said it was fine to get some extra vitamins in him each day. I'd be apprehensive about letting him just suck it right out of a pouch though because I see that as counterproductive in helping him learn table manners.

    BUT if its the only way your baby eats then you gotta do what you gotta do.
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  • I'm referring to sucking it straight out of the pouch.  She won't let me feed her purees, so there is no hope in actually spoon feeding her.

    Fair point about table manners, but I just wonder if it's better to get her the nutrients in fruits and vegetables now, and teach table manners later. 

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  • I still buy these...fruits, veggies, and yogurt.  They are great for on the go or on nights when I don't think what I have is "healthy" enough for him to eat.  If your LO is eating other things, I don't see a problem with these.  I think the "thought", from what I remember, is that if they are never offered 'solid' foods then they don't learn to eat.  I don't know that I agree or disagree with that thought, but like I said I still give them to Ian.  He eats other food great, but he does still love the pouches.  He won't let me feed him much of anything anymore and if I don't have a veggie cooked for dinner, or something for breakfast, he gets these.  I used to think that I wouldn't just give them to him to just suck on...well, that went out the window when he started snatching them out of my hands.  I say go for it!  Still offer other things, of course, but I don't see anything wrong with giving the pouches as a "side".

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  • I'm jumping in because I was one of the ones who was critical of the pouches. But all I said was, I have a friend whose three year old is still sucking pouches on a daily basis. She stays at home and never cooks a healthy meal for him. Like, ever. She depends on microwave meals and "squeezies" and says it's just so easy to know he's getting a balanced diet when everything is pre portioned. Seriously?? This is someone with a Master's degree. The kid is three. You stay at home. Cut him up a piece of fruit. Steam him a veggie. I have no problem with giving purees to babies. I just think that extended use of pouches does not teach kids to like nutritious food. It teaches them to like flavored sludge.
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  • I read a NYT article about how some parents feel this is like a fast food approach to baby food. The thought is babies should be experiencing the took and texture of foods and having a sit down meal, and these pouches take away from that. Basically, if you don't have time to sit down and feed your baby, you are too busy.

    Cody is still eating purees and we give him those pouches a few times a week. They are great on the go and for eating when out. We have a long commute to do our weekly errands. We rush out the door as soon as he wakes up, and it is a crazy mad rush to get 50% of my errands done in the 4 hours before his next nap. There is no time to stop and have a leisurely meal at a table. He gets a pouch in the backseat of the car twice a week.

    I guess I am too busy, but I decided to have a kid anyway, and I do the best I can. He gets 4-5 servings of fruits and veggies a day, 3 servings of dairy in addition to BM, a meat focused meal, and a carb/iron focused meal. I couldn't manage that without the occasional pouch.

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  • I see nothing wrong with pouches.  Skyler had a pouch and cheerios for breakfast on yesterday.  She gets them when we are out and I need to feed her quickly.  She eats all other fruit and veggies with no problem so I don't use them to trick her, I use them for convenience.  If I need to feed her, but also make her lunch or pack her bag in the morning I give her a pouch and go on my merry way. 

    I think it would only be a problem if you kid never had real fruit.  I feed Skyler fruit for a snack at least five times a week and she usually has a few pieces of assorted fruit after her dinner.  She also eats banana for breakfast a minimum of twice per week.

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  • We don't use pouches, so I've got nothing to add to that part of your question. But Lucia only has two teeth and she can eat pretty much any fruit or veggie I can think of. That doesn't mean she chooses to like them all, but she can eat them. She doesn't chew with those teeth, she chews back where her molars will eventually come in. I would just try regular fruits and veggies with your kid.

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  • My eight year old eats pouches.  So does my five year old.  It's a status symbol in packed from home lunches at school.  Seriously.  They make them for older kids (I buy these for DS, they are cheaper).  It's a side to their normal food (typical lunches are bento, and include things like grape tomatoes, celery, raisins, nuts, etc).  Instead of a cup of applesauce (that the 5 year old always spills trying to open it herself) they get a pouch and get to be rock stars at the lunch table.

    DS eats one at day care as his "second breakfast" (he eats oatmeal in the morning). 

    DS eats one at dinner as well.  He just really likes them, and I give him one that is a complement to fill in whatever dinner lacks (usually a fruit).  At the same time he is also eating the same meal we are eating.  And some other stuff (the kid can eat). 

    DS does still have what I call "solids fatigue".  He gets to a point where he just wants a pouch.  Mollysm said it's the same with the girls she nannies from time to time - and I do worry that he is going to be pouch addicted or something.  But really, there are way worse things.

     All about balance...if DS will eat broccoli, tilapia and parmesan shells...he can have a freaking pouch too.

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    Fair point about table manners, but I just wonder if it's better to get her the nutrients in fruits and vegetables now, and teach table manners later.nbsp;


    I think that if it's the only way to get her to eat fruits and veggies because of her lack of teeth then you should worry more about that than table manners. I'm really struggling with Munchkin to get him to stop throwing food on the floor and to hold his spoon so I'm really pushing the table manners right now. He's able and willing to eat whole food though.
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  • image 2chatter:
    My eight year old eats pouches.nbsp; So does my five year old.nbsp; It's a status symbol in packed from home lunches at school.nbsp; Seriously.
    Wow. I am 100% serious when I say, my kid will have to find another way to be "cool" if that's how it is everywhere. Add me to the Mean Mom list.
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  • image Jessicameron:
    image 2chatter:
    My eight year old eats pouches.nbsp; So does my five year old.nbsp; It's a status symbol in packed from home lunches at school.nbsp; Seriously.
    Wow. I am 100 per cent serious when I say, my kid will have to find another way to be "cool" if that's how it is everywhere. Add me to the Mean Mom list.

    Agreed. I understand feeding it to an older kid as a quick, on-the-go snack but I wouldn't give it to them as a part of their regular meal. I think it just encourages laziness while eating. 

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  • I am sorry, but I am going to be the b!tch here, maybe it's my mood today.  WHO CARES?!  We are moms and life is freakin hard.  If a little pouch makes someones life easier with their kid more power to them.  Logan is the messiest kid ever, so why on earth would I give him an apple sauce or yogurt that he will spill all over when I could give him one that is mess free?  He has plenty of time to practice using his utensils with every other kind of food in the world that can't be eaten from a pouch.  He eats tons of normal fruit, but when it comes to apple sauce or yogurt... suck it down kid!!  

    Come on ladies, pouch side eyeing... really?!

    This is why I stay off the SAHMs board.  Sometimes I am ashamed to be one. 

    ETA- Okay I just went and read the thread on the SAHM's board and lot's of them are on board with the pouches so I retract my statement about that board.  I was under the impression that they were all acting like pouches were evil. 

  • I guess I just don't get that....it's organic fruit served in a pouch along with conventional organic fruit and veggies and some sort of main dish.  There are such bigger hills to die on....like avoiding school lunches or use of a fork to eat noodles (DD has a classmate that uses her fingers).
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  • I'm of the camp that pouches are okay, and I also let him suck straight out of the tube. He's in the spoon batting phase, and dinner becomes more of a battle than a time of family togetherness. He gets the pouches (most days) as supplements to real food. He may get a yogert one in the morning along with some kind of finger food (fruit or cereal), and maybe a fruit/veggie one at dinner, again alongside a finger food (cheese, meat, etc). He seems to have inherited his mom's sweet tooth (oops!) so it's a way to get veggies in him that would otherwise end up on the floor. Lunch is real food at daycare, and he eats plenty of what we eat as well. I figure it works for us...maybe that's my UO for the day.
  • Calm down ladies. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. No one is coming to take away your pouches.
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  • image Jessicameron:
    Calm down ladies. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. No one is coming to take away your pouches.

    I was referring to the fact that there is a "pouch debate" at all.  Not this thread directly.   

  • Um, what would be the point of the pouch if you aren't supposed to suck it...
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  • I'm in camp "who cares."  My 3.5 year old loves pouches because she thinks they are fun.  She certainly has other treats that are much less healthy than those.  I guess in an extreme situation where a kid never ever got a vegetable or fruit that was not in pouch form it could be a problem, but I fail to see what all the hoopla is about. 
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  • 2chatter, about the pouches as a status symbol in school lunches...

    Help an out of touch mom out. What are the pouches replacing when compared with a lunch from when we grew up? Fruit roll ups? Those gummy fruit snacks? Juice boxes? Little Debbie snacks?

    I'm thinking if they are a dessert substitute, that is awesome and progress in my book. Organic fruit or yogurt pouch, mobile greater than symbol, sugary snack.
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    2chatter, about the pouches as a status symbol in school lunches... Help an out of touch mom out. What are the pouches replacing when compared with a lunch from when we grew up? Fruit roll ups? Those gummy fruit snacks? Juice boxes? Little Debbie snacks? I'm thinking if they are a dessert substitute, that is awesome and progress in my book. Organic fruit or yogurt pouch, mobile greater than symbol, sugary snack.

    I'm not 2chatter, but from a preschool perspective... yes!  That is what I think is awesome.  The kids all have these instead of fruit snacks and they think they are so cool.  It makes me giggle... yeah, keep that 'I'm so cool' smile on your face while you suck down your fruits and veggies. Muahahaha!  Evil mom, I know.

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    2chatter, about the pouches as a status symbol in school lunches... Help an out of touch mom out. What are the pouches replacing when compared with a lunch from when we grew up? Fruit roll ups? Those gummy fruit snacks? Juice boxes? Little Debbie snacks? I'm thinking if they are a dessert substitute, that is awesome and progress in my book. Organic fruit or yogurt pouch, mobile greater than symbol, sugary snack.

    I'm not 2chatter, but from a preschool perspective... yes!  That is what I think is awesome.  The kids all have these instead of fruit snacks and they think they are so cool.  It makes me giggle... yeah, keep that 'I'm so cool' smile on your face while you suck down your fruits and veggies. Muahahaha!  Evil mom, I know.

    Yep, I agree with this.  DD will eat them for dessert, too.  Sure beats a cookie....most of the pouches are just pure fruit and veggie, often organic, without any added sugar at all.  And she loves them.  I fail to see where that is a problem.

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    Um, what would be the point of the pouch if you aren't supposed to suck it...

    This is my thought too. DD has been eating her own pouches for months. It helped her learn to use a straw too, which she loves.

    And, besides her blended pouches, I buy the applesauce pouches all the time. They sell them in big boxes at Costco. I pack one every day in my lunch, DH's lunch and DD's lunch. We all eat them directly from the pouch. I don't think it's a big deal :)

    DD also eats regular fruits and vegetables, and all table food. She self-feeds, but can't figure out utensils yet, so she eats with her hands.

     
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  • I'd just rather my kid learn to eat and enjoy whole food rather than from a pouch. Again, as a snack every once in awhile than fine but I wouldn't do it as a part of an every day meal. I'm not judging and I couldn't care less what you all feed your kids. I just don't want mine to get in the habit.
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  • My son has cut up fruit and veggies at every meal. I give him a pouch for a snack so he can have extra fruit and veggies instead of carbs.
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  • Shmogan is spot on.  Yes, they totally replace processed junk!  It cracks me up!  I also laugh and wonder when DD will be "too cool" for pouches. 

    It does kind of hack me off how much cheaper junk food is...$1.50 for Little Debbies - a whole box. DD traded her pouch one day for a Christmas tree cake, a baggie of celery and a baggie of grapes.  That annoyed me, even thought she negotiated up from the cake to include the fruit.

    Firewife I am cracking up - my DH will eat an applesauce packet very occassionally, and it makes me laugh.  I don't think he would eat them at work.  Image, and all that....

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