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Teen Mom Denied Right to Breast Feed

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I thought you would be interested in this.

A teen mom who attends her local public high school is not being allowed time to pump her breast milk.  This is a HUGE deal and makes me SO angry! She is trying to be a good mother by finishing high school AND wants to give her child the best food she can.

Here is the article...(I tried to write emails to the school officials but they shut off their Facebook and emails bc of all the people like me who are beyond upset)

 http://www.mommatraumablog.com/1/post/2013/01/delaware-teen-mom-denied-breastfeeding-accommodations.html



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Re: Teen Mom Denied Right to Breast Feed

  • We may not be getting the full story from "mommatramuablog"  I don't see this reported anywhere else.....
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  • image Reallynervous83:
    We may not be getting the full story from "mommatramuablog"  I don't see this reported anywhere else.....

    Yeah I'm going to agree with this.  

    I generally do not use anyone's blog as my source for news.  

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  • I was going to say that too...I think we're missing a lot to this story, like the school's side of the argument.
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  • image Reallynervous83:
    We may not be getting the full story from "mommatramuablog"  I don't see this reported anywhere else.....

    It was on a local radio station:

    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54

    And what full story do you need?  She has a son, she wants to pump milk. The law states that must be accommodated, end of story. 

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  • I think there has to be more to the story. Where did she want to pump? I mean if she wanted to do it in class I could see why they had a problem. I know you should have the right to feed and pump wherever, but can you imagine if she pulled out her boob in the middle if class? I would afraid she would be oogled by all the teen boys in the class. Lets face it teen boys can't dechiper between pumping to feed your baby and oh hey a BOOB!!!
  • Just curious, what explanation could the school possibly have that makes this okay?
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  • image EllaHella:
    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54
    Local News Talk Radio did an interview.nbsp; Took 3 seconds to google.
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  • At my high school there were plenty of scheduled breaks for non pumpers. Plus 9 am to noon is only 3 hours. I went 3 hours between pumping when I SAH. Is she not allowed to pump at lunch and breaks? Do American schools not have breaks? Is is a solid 4 hours of class?
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    image Reallynervous83:
    We may not be getting the full story from "mommatramuablog"  I don't see this reported anywhere else.....

    It was on a local radio station:

    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54

    And what full story do you need?  She has a son, she wants to pump milk. The law states that must be accommodated, end of story. 

    Yep.

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  • image overture:
    Just curious, what explanation could the school possibly have that makes this okay?

    That's my thought too but in the very limited amount that I've read on this, I've yet to see any statement from the school. The school has no case IMO.
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  • I don't know because we haven't heard the school's side of the story.  Did they originally let and find out that she was in a private room doing something else?  Did she insist on missing part of every class in order to "pump"  Who knows what the reasoning is, but I like to hear both sides before I rush to judgment.

    The 3 seconds to google.  I didn't pull up the interview on the radio station nor can I hear it on my computer.  Can you link me to any local newspapers etc. besides the "mommatramua" blog which have covered it? 

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  • image EllaHella:

    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54

    Local News Talk Radio did an interview.  Took 3 seconds to google.

    Which is giving the same side of the story as the blog. I want to her the school's side.

    And no, labor laws do not apply to a student. That's a slipperly slope we don't need to get anywhere near.

     

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  • and I'm not saying that they have a leg to stand on--I simply don't know.

     

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  • image Hesterlicious:
    At my high school there were plenty of scheduled breaks for non pumpers. Plus 9 am to noon is only 3 hours. I went 3 hours between pumping when I SAH. Is she not allowed to pump at lunch and breaks? Do American schools not have breaks? Is is a solid 4 hours of class?

    We had 90 seconds between classes.

     

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    image EllaHella:

    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54

    Local News Talk Radio did an interview.  Took 3 seconds to google.

    Which is giving the same side of the story as the blog. I want to her the school's side.

    And no, labor laws do not apply to a student. That's a slipperly slope we don't need to get anywhere near.

     

    agreed.  

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  • image GhostMonkey:
    image EllaHella:

    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54

    Local News Talk Radio did an interview.  Took 3 seconds to google.

    Which is giving the same side of the story as the blog. I want to her the school's side.

    And no, labor laws do not apply to a student. That's a slipperly slope we don't need to get anywhere near.

     

    Labor laws don't, but public accommodation laws do.  If she is allowed in school which is a building that serves the public, she is allowed to nurse or pump in that school.

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  • image GhostMonkey:

    image Hesterlicious:
    At my high school there were plenty of scheduled breaks for non pumpers. Plus 9 am to noon is only 3 hours. I went 3 hours between pumping when I SAH. Is she not allowed to pump at lunch and breaks? Do American schools not have breaks? Is is a solid 4 hours of class?

    We had 90 seconds between classes.

     

    Ah we give "recess" all the way through high school. We had a 15 minute break in the AM and PM.  Which is not a ton of time to pump but 7 hour school days with a 45 minute lunch in the middle would have been all I needed.

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  • Is this not a pregnancy-related condition that deserves protection under title ix?
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  • This makes me stabby

    Found this statement from the school doctor I think: http://spartansuper.blogspot.com/  

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  • image Hesterlicious:
    image GhostMonkey:

    image Hesterlicious:
    At my high school there were plenty of scheduled breaks for non pumpers. Plus 9 am to noon is only 3 hours. I went 3 hours between pumping when I SAH. Is she not allowed to pump at lunch and breaks? Do American schools not have breaks? Is is a solid 4 hours of class?

    We had 90 seconds between classes.

     

    Ah we give "recess" all the way through high school. We had a 15 minute break in the AM and PM.  Which is not a ton of time to pump but 7 hour school days with a 45 minute lunch in the middle would have been all I needed.

    Yeah, we got a 25 minute lunch.

     

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  • image pepomntpat:
    image GhostMonkey:
    image EllaHella:

    http://www.delaware1059.com/blog/post.php?postid=54

    Local News Talk Radio did an interview.  Took 3 seconds to google.

    Which is giving the same side of the story as the blog. I want to her the school's side.

    And no, labor laws do not apply to a student. That's a slipperly slope we don't need to get anywhere near.

     

    Labor laws don't, but public accommodation laws do.  If she is allowed in school which is a building that serves the public, she is allowed to nurse or pump in that school.

    That law applies to breatfeeding, not pumping.

     

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  • image GhostMonkey:

    image Hesterlicious:
    At my high school there were plenty of scheduled breaks for non pumpers. Plus 9 am to noon is only 3 hours. I went 3 hours between pumping when I SAH. Is she not allowed to pump at lunch and breaks? Do American schools not have breaks? Is is a solid 4 hours of class?

    We had 90 seconds between classes.

     

    But lunch no? Students don't get a lunch?

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    Ah we give "recess" all the way through high school. We had a 15 minute break in the AM and PM.  Which is not a ton of time to pump but 7 hour school days with a 45 minute lunch in the middle would have been all I needed.

    Well now I feel very sad that recess was cut out after middle school.

    But I do agree that I'd like to hear the other sides of this story.  And I also agree with Hester that the natural breaks in school would allow a good amount of time.  Does she want to be excused from class every 90 minutes to pump or something?

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  • image GhostMonkey:
    image Hesterlicious:
    image GhostMonkey:

    image Hesterlicious:
    At my high school there were plenty of scheduled breaks for non pumpers. Plus 9 am to noon is only 3 hours. I went 3 hours between pumping when I SAH. Is she not allowed to pump at lunch and breaks? Do American schools not have breaks? Is is a solid 4 hours of class?

    We had 90 seconds between classes.

     

    Ah we give "recess" all the way through high school. We had a 15 minute break in the AM and PM.  Which is not a ton of time to pump but 7 hour school days with a 45 minute lunch in the middle would have been all I needed.

    Yeah, we got a 25 minute lunch.

     

     

    Sorry your school sucked.  Kids took the 15 minutes for smoke breaks.

    Oh wait no My school sucked more. I'm sad that my kid might have to end up going there.

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  • image ByeBabyBunting:

    This makes me stabby

    Found this statement from the school doctor I think: http://spartansuper.blogspot.com/  

    So it sounds like this is school blog spot.  I'm not sure who the poster is (I didn't read it carefully enough), but it would seem from this post that she has the ability to breast pump at school--as long as she brings a cooler and a pump.

    I however wasn't sure about the last paragraph which MAY seem to indicate that she would have to change schools (i don't know if Camden is a different school), but that may just be if she wants to have her baby with her throughout the day.  

     

    ETA:  looks like it was posted by the superintendent  

     

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    image Hesterlicious:

    Ah we give "recess" all the way through high school. We had a 15 minute break in the AM and PM.  Which is not a ton of time to pump but 7 hour school days with a 45 minute lunch in the middle would have been all I needed.

    Well now I feel very sad that recess was cut out after middle school.

    But I do agree that I'd like to hear the other sides of this story.  And I also agree with Hester that the natural breaks in school would allow a good amount of time.  Does she want to be excused from class every 90 minutes to pump or something?

    I teach at a high school in Canada. There are no scheduled breaks between classes. Teachers generally expect 5 min travel time. But students certainly have a break for lunch which could be after 2.5 hrs or 4 hrs depending on their schedule.

  • http://spartansuper.blogspot.com/

    Statement from that blog:

     

    "Due to privacy regulations we cannot comment on the specifics of a 15 year old student that has received a lot of media attention. But, should a student ask to pump breast milk at school, this is what our response would be.

    Lake Forest High School has many female staff members who have personal experience with breast feeding their own children and managing that goal after returning to work. They are wonderful resources for teen moms wishing to do the same. We encourage any teen mom to seek their advice.

    We have no specially designed room for that purpose but we would do our best to accommodate that student?s request. The student would be responsible for providing her own cooler for storage. Any refrigerators in school are in use for other purposes. To use them to also store a student?s pumped breast milk would risk contamination.

    Our teen moms have access to the DAPI program in Camden which is specifically designed to support pregnant teens. There they can take their classes, take their baby with them, breast feed and pump whenever necessary
    . A student who chooses to leave that environment and return to regular school also chooses to leave behind a certain level of support"

     

     

    Angry 

    No.  She should not have to change f*cking schools because of this.

    Reasonable accommodation is not that hard.  They have nowhere she can pump?  So they have no lactation room for staff?

    I don't get why anyone is defending this.

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    http://spartansuper.blogspot.com/

    Statement from that blog:

     

    "Due to privacy regulations we cannot comment on the specifics of a 15 year old student that has received a lot of media attention. But, should a student ask to pump breast milk at school, this is what our response would be.

    Lake Forest High School has many female staff members who have personal experience with breast feeding their own children and managing that goal after returning to work. They are wonderful resources for teen moms wishing to do the same. We encourage any teen mom to seek their advice.

    We have no specially designed room for that purpose but we would do our best to accommodate that student?s request. The student would be responsible for providing her own cooler for storage. Any refrigerators in school are in use for other purposes. To use them to also store a student?s pumped breast milk would risk contamination.

    Our teen moms have access to the DAPI program in Camden which is specifically designed to support pregnant teens. There they can take their classes, take their baby with them, breast feed and pump whenever necessary
    . A student who chooses to leave that environment and return to regular school also chooses to leave behind a certain level of support"

     

     

    Angry 

    No.  She should not have to change f*cking schools because of this.

    Reasonable accommodation is not that hard.  They have nowhere she can pump?  So they have no lactation room for staff?

    I don't get why anyone is defending this.

     

    It's not clear from the blog post that she has to change schools.  They don't say that, in fact it specifically states that AT LAKE FOREST they would accommodate her.  

    I think, the level of support she loses is being able to bring her baby with her and having an environment designed for students with babies who are finishing school while being moms.  

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  • image overture:
    http://spartansuper.blogspot.com/Statement from that blog:nbsp;"Due to privacy regulations we cannot comment on the specifics of a 15
    year old student that has received a lot of media attention. But, should
    a student ask to pump breast milk at school, this is what our response
    would be.

    Lake Forest High School has many female staff members who have personal
    experience with breast feeding their own children and managing that goal
    after returning to work. They are wonderful resources for teen moms
    wishing to do the same. We encourage any teen mom to seek their advice.

    We have no specially designed room for that purpose but we would do our
    best to accommodate that students request. The student would be
    responsible for providing her own cooler for storage. Any refrigerators
    in school are in use for other purposes. To use them to also store a
    students pumped breast milk would risk contamination.

    Our teen moms have access to the DAPI program in Camden which is
    specifically designed to support pregnant teens. There they can take
    their classes, take their baby with them, breast feed and pump whenever
    necessary. A student who chooses to leave that environment and return to
    regular school also chooses to leave behind a certain level of support"nbsp;nbsp;[:]nbsp;No.nbsp; She should not have to change fcking schools because of this.Reasonable accommodation is not that hard.nbsp; They have nowhere she can pump?nbsp; So they have no lactation room for staff?I don't get why anyone is defending this.

    Amen, sister.


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  • So the school is concerned about the girl being a target of bullying, but they want to make her carry a cooler full of breastmilk around with her all day?
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