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Challenge from P&CE

There's a $10,000 bet on the line that at least 5 people here will defend the dress. I'm actually putting my odds on 12-24 that it is 4 or less that defend it. I need a down payment on a new car so don't disappoint me.

http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/1/65408391/ShowThread.aspx

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 WDYT? Should she be able to wear the dress to prom?!

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  • lol

    Her name is Texanna.  Are we really surprised?

    Also, no she should not.

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  • Unfortunately, the first amendment doesn't exclude racist prom dates.
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  • image LoisLane23:
    Unfortunately, the first amendment doesn't exclude racist prom dates.

    Yup. This. Totally ugly dress and tacky and not in good taste, but unless the school dress code specifically prohibits it? Well, I say she should wear it. And at least her body parts are all appropriately covered... 

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  • image t watley:
    I wonder if the designer of that dress graduated from the same art school as my photographer?
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  • Ugh, the look on her face in that pic is so, smug.
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  • Eh, the question isn't CAN she wear the dress, it's SHOULD she.

    No, she should not. 

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  • image Mom2Oli:
    it's not against the school dress code and it's not against the law, no matter how much against people's sensibilities it is. She has full right to wear it.

    Well, now I'm not sending you $500 to spend on shoes. 

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  • image Scout2005:

    Defend the dress, or defend her right to wear it?

    Two different things. 

    Precisely. 

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    Sucks you've already had like 3 people defend it. lol

    They're always right about us Bumpies. *sigh* 

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  • Well, I, for one, think it is lovely.

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  • Out of curiousity, does displaying the Confederate flag represent hate speech? Is hate speech covered by the 1st amendment? Are people who wear the Confederate flag or the American flag on their clothing unaware that wearing them is considered inappropriate display of the flag? On the US flag, it is supposed to be a crime but I dont think anyone actually ever prosecutes or Hilfiger and WalMart would both be out of business.

    Oh, and on both this and the 2004 dress, OMFG fug. The school district should be suing the girls for disability after going blind seeing them.

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    Out of curiousity, does displaying the Confederate flag represent hate speech? Is hate speech covered by the 1st amendment? Are people who wear the Confederate flag or the American flag on their clothing unaware that wearing them is considered inappropriate display of the flag? On the US flag, it is supposed to be a crime but I dont think anyone actually ever prosecutes or Hilfiger and WalMart would both be out of business.

    Oh, and on both this and the 2004 dress, OMFG fug. The school district should be suing the girls for disability after going blind seeing them.

    No and no. A display of the Confederate flag, on it's own (or in dress form) does not constitute hate speech. And no, hate speech is not covered by the First Amendment. 

    And that about sums up my memories of 1st amendment law. I spent most of that class organizing honeymoon photos, since I was on my honeymoon during the first week of the class.

    Ditto what others said - should she wear the dress? No. Should she be allowed to wear the dress? Sadly, yes.  

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  • 1.  I can't see clearly, but it looks like her shoes may be clear mules.  Please let it be so.

    2.  She said in the USA Today article that she wanted to be different.  She was too late:

    http://dovbear.blogspot.com/2004/12/confederate-battle-dress.html

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  • I say the school can compromise her free speech all they want if:  1). The arm of the school extends over prom or 2) Prom is on the school's campus. 

     

    If the student committee is running/paying for prom and THEY have the legal culpability here, then the answer might be different.  But if the SCHOOL sponsors prom, then the SCHOOL can tell her not to wear it.  You don't have uncompromised 1st amendment speech in school - in locus parentis dictates that the school has a right to protect idiots from themselves and each other when under the power of the school.

     

    Personally, I would've let her wear it, but I wouldn't want to settle the lawsuit for her post-prom beatdown.  

  • At first I thought it was just a tacky American flag dress, and then I saw that it was a sparkly racist disaster. Awesome.
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  • Ok, so I am just a good old Canadian girl here, but I'm gonna go with no the school shouldn't allow it. I think they did the right thing not allowing her in.

    To me it has nothing to do with freedom of speech.  Part of what I expect high school to do is teach my kids what is and is not appropriate in society.  Conferderate flag dress on your prom dress, not appropriate. And for eff's sake the girl was told she could come back if she changed.

    I wonder what some of you would think if she had come to prom with a swastika on her dress.  Should she be allowed to wear that??

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    Ok, so I am just a good old Canadian girl here, but I'm gonna go with no the school shouldn't allow it. I think they did the right thing not allowing her in.

    To me it has nothing to do with freedom of speech.  Part of what I expect high school to do is teach my kids what is and is not appropriate in society.  Conferderate flag dress on your prom dress, not appropriate. And for eff's sake the girl was told she could come back if she changed.

    I wonder what some of you would think if she had come to prom with a swastika on her dress.  Should she be allowed to wear that??

     I like Canadians. :)

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