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NBR- my UO about Bin Laden

I am happy they finally got Bin Laden and praise all the men and women who made it happen, but all the partying in the streets over it is sickening to me. I remember very vividly how horrible I thought it was to see people in the countries that were happy about 9/11 to be cheering in the streets. We are now them. If the US wants to prance around that we are so much better then the rest of the world, we should damn well start acting like it. Flame away.
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  • i thought the same thing initially. i remembered being sickened by the celebration of our bombing overseas and the celebration of our citizens being burned from a bridge. however, dude was awful. he signed up for this so i dont feel bad honestly. what goes around comes around. 

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  • I guess my concern is if they retaliate against us. I don't think it's time to celebrate...just yet.
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  • Maybe you are not aware, but many people in Pakistan and the Middle East are NOT supporters of Al Qaeda, so this is a good thing for many of them, too. It is a chance for them to believe they may be able to take control over their country.  In my opinion, there should be many more people all over the world cheering for this.  I also think it's not necessarily his death that is the "exciting" part, but a huge hit on Al Qaeda, which has been harming not only the US but many many countries.

     

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    I am happy they finally got Bin Laden and praise all the men and women who made it happen, but all the partying in the streets over it is sickening to me. I remember very vividly how horrible I thought it was to see people in the countries that were happy about 9/11 to be cheering in the streets. We are now them. If the US wants to prance around that we are so much better then the rest of the world, we should damn well start acting like it. Flame away.

     

    I feel exactly the same way.

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  • There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    This is what I wanted to say but couldn't make it come out correctly

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  • image PiRSquared330:

    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    agreed. 

    also, i dont see why people are acting like americans are the only one celebrating. it's def not the case. turn on the news.

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

    Shame on me for what exactly??? Not liking that people are partying in the streets? And if it makes such a difference to you, I was in the city that day and remember all to well the goings on.
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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

    Shame on me for what exactly??? Not liking that people are partying in the streets? And if it makes such a difference to you, I was in the city that day and remember all to well the goings on.

    Its one thing to not like people partying in the streets. I get that. but comparing the two events is insulting and hurtful to those directly effected by it. They are NOT the same, as a mentiond. I'm shocked someone who lived there at that point doesn't see how the death of thousands of INNOCENT people is not the same as the death of an evil leader. I would *get* the comparasion if a US leader was hunted down and killed. But that is not what happened. Thousands of innocent people were.

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    I guess my concern is if they retaliate against us. I don't think it's time to celebrate...just yet.

    This is exactly what I am thinking right now.  I am happy as my brother has served our country and fought for this in Afghanistan but this war is far from over yet.  I'm just very happy this happened before the 10th anniversary.  Can you believe the man hid out for almost 10 years? 

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

    Shame on me for what exactly??? Not liking that people are partying in the streets? And if it makes such a difference to you, I was in the city that day and remember all to well the goings on.

    Its one thing to not like people partying in the streets. I get that. but comparing the two events is insulting and hurtful to those directly effected by it. They are NOT the same, as a mentiond. I'm shocked someone who lived there at that point doesn't see how the death of thousands of INNOCENT people is not the same as the death of an evil leader. I would *get* the comparasion if a US leader was hunted down and killed. But that is not what happened. Thousands of innocent people were.

    This.  OP, go try to defend your position down at Ground Zero and see how far you get.

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  • What I have a problem is not so much the taking to the streets, but texts like the one I just received:

    "England we will see your wedding and raise you a funeral- YEAH!  God bless our troops!  I only wish I could have seen the bullet hit his head"

    I am by no means diminishing what he did, but this is just one of many comments (via text or fb) that I have seen that just doesn't sit well with me. 

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

    Shame on me for what exactly??? Not liking that people are partying in the streets? And if it makes such a difference to you, I was in the city that day and remember all to well the goings on.

    Its one thing to not like people partying in the streets. I get that. but comparing the two events is insulting and hurtful to those directly effected by it. They are NOT the same, as a mentiond. I'm shocked someone who lived there at that point doesn't see how the death of thousands of INNOCENT people is not the same as the death of an evil leader. I would *get* the comparasion if a US leader was hunted down and killed. But that is not what happened. Thousands of innocent people were.

    This.  OP, go try to defend your position down at Ground Zero and see how far you get.

    That is not what I said AT ALL!!!! I said I don't like the partying. I think it is a great thing for the world that he is gone, but I also feel that it far from over. We still have thousands of troops in hostile countries and their jobs just got more dangerous. Save the party for when they are all home and safe. To insiuate that I am comparing the partying in the streets of 9/11 oversees with the partying here and now is disgusting to me. I view them as separate events and to think that I would minimize the pain and outrage of 9/11 is horrible. My original post has been twisted (as most things on the Bump tend to get) and an intention that was never there has been assigned to my post. If I was premature in posting until I could turn on the news then so be it. It was my initial reaction to the news. That's it. And I would have been more clear if I didn't have a whiney 9 mo. clinging to my leg.
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    That is not what I said AT ALL!!!! I said I don't like the partying. I think it is a great thing for the world that he is gone, but I also feel that it far from over. We still have thousands of troops in hostile countries and their jobs just got more dangerous. Save the party for when they are all home and safe. To insiuate that I am comparing the partying in the streets of 9/11 oversees with the partying here and now is disgusting to me. I view them as separate events and to think that I would minimize the pain and outrage of 9/11 is horrible. My original post has been twisted (as most things on the Bump tend to get) and an intention that was never there has been assigned to my post. If I was premature in posting until I could turn on the news then so be it. It was my initial reaction to the news. That's it. And I would have been more clear if I didn't have a whiney 9 mo. clinging to my leg.

    well, you asked for flames so there ya go. 

    nothing is every going to be 100% over, we are never going to have ALL our troops home and safe. it's just not how the world works.

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

    Shame on me for what exactly??? Not liking that people are partying in the streets? And if it makes such a difference to you, I was in the city that day and remember all to well the goings on.

    Its one thing to not like people partying in the streets. I get that. but comparing the two events is insulting and hurtful to those directly effected by it. They are NOT the same, as a mentiond. I'm shocked someone who lived there at that point doesn't see how the death of thousands of INNOCENT people is not the same as the death of an evil leader. I would *get* the comparasion if a US leader was hunted down and killed. But that is not what happened. Thousands of innocent people were.

    You're an idiot. She never compared the two events. All she said is that she thinks street parties are innappropriate. 1ht. Phone.
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    What I have a problem is not so much the taking to the streets, but texts like the one I just received:

    "England we will see your wedding and raise you a funeral- YEAH!  God bless our troops!  I only wish I could have seen the bullet hit his head"

    I am by no means diminishing what he did, but this is just one of many comments (via text or fb) that I have seen that just doesn't sit well with me. 

    AGREED!!!
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    I am happy they finally got Bin Laden and praise all the men and women who made it happen, but all the partying in the streets over it is sickening to me. I remember very vividly how horrible I thought it was to see people in the countries that were happy about 9/11 to be cheering in the streets. We are now them. If the US wants to prance around that we are so much better then the rest of the world, we should damn well start acting like it. Flame away.

    I'm sorry...how exactly did anyone twist what you said?  It's abundantly clear.

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  • I'm glad thats not what you meant. But we didn't make up your words. Reread what you wrote. I can't quote on my iPad but you said that we are now them in regards to how they celebrated. The two events are not IMO comparable. But thank you for clarifying.
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    What I have a problem is not so much the taking to the streets, but texts like the one I just received:

    "England we will see your wedding and raise you a funeral- YEAH!  God bless our troops!  I only wish I could have seen the bullet hit his head"

    I am by no means diminishing what he did, but this is just one of many comments (via text or fb) that I have seen that just doesn't sit well with me. 

    I agree with this. Some of the reactions are a bit much.
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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    Agreed. 

    And as a fellow New Yorker (and I don't know if you're native or or not, OP, but for whatever reason that makes a difference to me), shame on you!

    Shame on me for what exactly??? Not liking that people are partying in the streets? And if it makes such a difference to you, I was in the city that day and remember all to well the goings on.

    Its one thing to not like people partying in the streets. I get that. but comparing the two events is insulting and hurtful to those directly effected by it. They are NOT the same, as a mentiond. I'm shocked someone who lived there at that point doesn't see how the death of thousands of INNOCENT people is not the same as the death of an evil leader. I would *get* the comparasion if a US leader was hunted down and killed. But that is not what happened. Thousands of innocent people were.

    You're an idiot. She never compared the two events. All she said is that she thinks street parties are innappropriate. 1ht. Phone.

    Yes.  She.  Did....re-read her original post.  She said we are now them, saying that the people celebrating in the streets are the same as those who celebrated the terrorist attacks of 911.  That is plain disgusting, IMO.

    What she said was callous and insensitive on a day that many people are rejoicing in the small sense of retribution for the loss of their loved ones.  Not a good day for her UO.  She asked for the flames...and so it shall be.

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    That is not what I said AT ALL!!!! I said I don't like the partying. I think it is a great thing for the world that he is gone, but I also feel that it far from over. We still have thousands of troops in hostile countries and their jobs just got more dangerous. Save the party for when they are all home and safe. To insiuate that I am comparing the partying in the streets of 9/11 oversees with the partying here and now is disgusting to me. I view them as separate events and to think that I would minimize the pain and outrage of 9/11 is horrible. My original post has been twisted (as most things on the Bump tend to get) and an intention that was never there has been assigned to my post. If I was premature in posting until I could turn on the news then so be it. It was my initial reaction to the news. That's it. And I would have been more clear if I didn't have a whiney 9 mo. clinging to my leg.

    well, you asked for flames so there ya go. 

    nothing is every going to be 100% over, we are never going to have ALL our troops home and safe. it's just not how the world works.

    Flames are fine but my words are being twisted. I realize that it will never be 100% over but again, you know what I meant. I am all for discord and sharing of opinions. I accept that others (many other) will feel differently. Fine and good but people are assigning me an intent that was never there.
  • No one is twisting your words

    I remember very vividly how horrible I thought it was to see people in the countries that were happy about 9/11 to be cheering in the streets. We are now them.

    You made yourself sound bad all on your own

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  • image Cassie730:

    I cried on my way into work thinking of all the parents who lost their babies...and babies who lost their parents in the 9/11 attacks. Osama Bin Laden took PRIDE in his actions...and GLADLY accepted responsibility for those attacks. I still remember years ago after 9/11 the videos released by Osama Bin Laden of beheadings that the taliban performed on American soldiers. He was PROUD of those actions...and I am PROUD of the Navy seals that got to vindicate those families. No...Killing Osama Bin Laden won't bring back the babies who died in 9/11 or our soldiers beheaded on FILM but taking out such a prominent figure head certainly makes a statement.

    I appreciated President Obama's speech to the nation and to the world last night and the celebration is much deserved. AND REMEMBER...The U.S. isn't the only country Osama Bin Laden tortured with his terrorism, hate, and pain. We have freed the WORLD of a prominent figurehead of hatred.

    Very well said Cassie

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  • I completely agree with you.

    Yes, he was a horrible man in our Western opinions. However, to the people of his country (and other followers) he was anything but a terrorist.

    It is not appropriate to run around cheering when anyone dies.

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    agreed. 

    also, i dont see why people are acting like americans are the only one celebrating. it's def not the case. turn on the news.

    So true.

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    I completely agree with you.

    Yes, he was a horrible man in our Western opinions. However, to the people of his country (and other followers) he was anything but a terrorist.

    It is not appropriate to run around cheering when anyone dies. No matter how horrible they were. It's tacky. Like you said it shows a bad example for our relations with other countries.

    um, what? people being relieved he is dead is certainly not just a "western opinion."

     

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    There is a HUGE diffference between people celebrating the death of one particular evil person who has caused so much pain in suffering around the world (including his own country) and celebrting the death of thousands of innocent people.

     

    I'm not sure how that difference is not clear. Its fine to think its still not proper to take to the streets. But do not say its the same thing. It is not at all.

    This, I just couldn't put it into words. Thanks 330.


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    I completely agree with you.

    Yes, he was a horrible man in our Western opinions. However, to the people of his country (and other followers) he was anything but a terrorist.

    It is not appropriate to run around cheering when anyone dies. No matter how horrible they were. It's tacky. Like you said it shows a bad example for our relations with other countries.

    I completely disagree....I'm sure lots of people would dance on his grave if there was one.

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    image kayteatrudeau:

    I completely agree with you.

    Yes, he was a horrible man in our Western opinions. However, to the people of his country (and other followers) he was anything but a terrorist.

    It is not appropriate to run around cheering when anyone dies. No matter how horrible they were. It's tacky. Like you said it shows a bad example for our relations with other countries.

    I completely disagree....I'm sure lots of people would dance on his grave if there was one.

    Wow talk about insulting to those in his country. He was responsible for many deaths there and is very hated.
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