Low AMH Level

TaylorMichel

@Hopeful_mom excited to hear how ER goes today!! Good luck!

@JamieH2000 I'm so sorry you still have that cyst. I totally understand wanting to try one last time. I'll pray you find clarity and are able to move forward in whatever direction you decide! Hugs!

Hopeful_mom

hi ladies just go home from ER and I got 7 woo hoo!  She said they all look good so praying this can be my golden bunch!  They could not get my IV in my arm and had to put it in my hand which definitely was not fun, made the process hurt a bit more.  So far the cramping isn't as bad as last time which is great but my head is still hurting and this nausea is not cute, hopefully a nap will help!  My blood pressure took a while to normalize so I feel like i was thee for a much longer period of time.  The girl that went second was released before not that its a race but I know OH was wondering where i was poor thing.

Does the trigger shot make you gain more weight?  Never thought of it much but just in 3 days i gained another 5lbs it just doesn't seem right 

TaylorMichel

@Hopeful_mom yay for 7!!!! Hopefully they are all great and you have lots of embabies!

20T

I totally hear you @JamieH2000. I went in yesterday for my baseline and they found a 21mm cyst on my left ovary so I've been delayed yet again too. Hang in there my dear! I'm hoping that one day, we will look back on this as a little speed bump in our journey to our take home babies! 

JamieH2000

@hopeful_mom- so happy they got 7!! That is great! Fx for a great fert report tomorrow!

@20t- o no, they are the worst!! I feel your pain really hope yours goes away quickly!

artemis618

@Hopeful_mom The protocol for my second and for this upcoming cycle is luteal lupron, so like long lupron without the birth control first.  So I guess like with antagonist, I was on OCP before the stim cycle, with this one we don't manipulate my cycle as much, I have to wait to ovulate naturally first, then can start lupron on CD21.  My period will come around it's usual time (although last time I had my first 31 day cycle - I'm usually 28-30 days), so baseline maybe a couple of days before it's due, then I'll start stims on the next CD2.  So not really "off," but priming and starting the lupron late in the cycle.

We couldn't believe our luck when we *TW* got pregnant naturally the month after we got married last year (me at 38 and DH at 41)...of course we didn't get to 13 weeks... Looking at the calendar for this next cycle and a frozen transfer after that will bring us pretty much up to a year from that cycle. *sigh*

I think ICSI is primarily for male factor, PICSI is just a method of selection supposedly based more on functionality that just the looks of the sperm.  Like we can't really tell anything (with respect to euploidy) based on the looks of our eggs, we can't really tell based on the look of the sperm (beyond baseline health) either.  We don't have male factor, just trying to see what else we could do to increase our chances since our eggs (especially the good ones) are so few and precious, it'd be a shame to inject abnormal sperm into them (if there's anything we can do to reduce that risk).

I think I mentioned over on April IVF, but the anesthesia makes me super nauseous.  When I had it for my hysteroscopy and for this last ER they put extra anti-nausea medication in my IV and that seemed to do the trick.  For the first one (different anesthesiologist) I told him three times that I get motion sickness REALLY easily and he still didn't use enough).

@JamieH2000 I'm sorry about your cyst.  Ugh, that's so frustrating Can you get the donor process started and see if your body comes around in the meantime?  Or did I see earlier somewhere maybe that they really want you to be committed to it before getting the ball rolling?

hopefuljj

@Hopeful_mom Yay!!!!! Rest up and I'll be sending tons of positive fertilization vibes to your golden bunch!!!

Hopeful_mom

Hi ladies Fertilization report is in thank g-d all 7 fertilized, yay!!  Praying this is my golden batch!!

I'm excited to have 7 fertilized praying they can make it.  As for my hand its still throbbing but the nurse was really nice and applied pressure so it wouldn't bruise.  The Anesthesiologist just wasn't my cup of tea.  he thinks its his show and the world revolves around him.  He was all hyper and happy stating why aren't I smiling and such.  I just looked at him and said I guess when you MC twins this part isn't so easy.  Something like that, I know he's a Dr and I should be glad he did his job but he definitely hurt me.  I actually screamed in pain when he put the meds in before I went under and his answer..."yea it hurts more in the hand."  Really ASS why I asked for you not to put in there.  Just glad its over.
My head actually hurt the most this time around.  Yesterday I had a tough time sleeping but today I'm finally resting!
So since this cycle I have literally gained 10lbs I know i haven't been eating great but this is insane!  I only had 7 eggs so I really cant have OHSS, i'm super bloated, gained another 2lbs post hoping tomorrow some of it will go down.  I'm drinking fluids but I can't find a spot on me thats no bloated!  I'm living in sweats!  Now back to worrying about my embabies

JamieH2000

@hopeful_mom- great fert report!! Sending prayers for lots to make it to day 6!!

@artemis618- I can't really start the donor process until we are committed to that. DH and I had a good talk yesterday and he is very ready to move onto donor and end this rollercoaster (hopefully) one of our big concerns is really wanting two kids. So even if we got a miracle of one of our own, then what... he already said he wouldn't want to try ivf again after since it would have taken 4 times to get one. So kind of considering if having bio children or more than 1 (-again hopefully, I realize it's not guaranteed with donor) is more important to me. So much to think about!

Hopeful_mom

@artemis618- I did so bad with the lupron microdose flare that anything with lurpon in it makes me think I wouldn't respond well.  I'm trying to remain hopeful and would love to not have to go through another cycle but really who knows whats going to happen.
You must've been so excited to get that bfp i'm sorry for ur loss!  This process is hard and never getting to know what a natural BFP is, is disappointing too.  
Doesn't it stink that we keep trying to figure out what else we can fix in this process to get better results.  My OH gets insulted if I make mention to double check anything of his.  This time he had a great sample so i certainly can't think its that...and the RE says its highly likely thats not the issue.
I wish I knew that anti-nausea tip sooner....I found some meds after the MC when I was still had nausea and took that.
I still wish science was a lil futher a long where things and test could be a bit easier!

artemis618

@Hopeful_mom Fx for your 7 embabies!

I guess I'm on the Dr. Sher train of concern that AMA ladies produce more endogenous LH--> testosterone that may hurt egg quality.  And I did so poorly on antagonist my first cycle (which concerns me because my frozen artemis618sicles are from an antagonist cycle - but can't do anything about that now), that I wanted to try something different.  The luteal lupron addressed that for me because the idea is that the "flare" (of both FSH and LH) happens well before you start stimming, so your pituitary gland is tapped out by the time you start stimming and your body can't produce its own potentially harmful testosterone early in egg development (I think the flare protocol involves starting lupron closer to the start of stims to try to take "advantage" of your body's own FSH/LH flare - so kind of the opposite). At least that's how I understand it.  I also stimmed with FSH only days 1-4 and didn't add the Menopur in till day 5 for the same being scared of LH early in stimming reason (I specifically requested this of my RE).  So that worked better for me - although I did add in new supplements between getting the result of my first cycle and starting this last one (so about 6-1/2 weeks before starting stims again).  I feel sort of dumb that I didn't start them all earlier since we decided to try IVF back in November (I'd been taking PNV and ubiquinol since February 2016 prepping for ttc after the wedding, but didn't really add anything else till mid-February this year).  But this next cycle will have been three full months on them - I hope it helps!

Incidentally, we talked with the RE with whom I froze my eggs on Friday (I hadn't talked to him since last January right after we got engaged) who sort of made us feel like babies, questioning/clarifying (I paraphrase), "wait, you had one *TW* miscarriage and you went straight to IVF?"  Yup.  I had insurance coverage for two cycles, so figured I should try it for screening (and optimistically banking).  But he actually thinks we should save whatever we get after this next cycle and go back to trying naturally while we still can (and save the frozen eggs for when he can offer same-day PGS testing so we don't have to freeze and thaw again).  We're lucky that that still seems like an option for us, as we haven't tried naturally since last July.  The whole point of IVF for us was to try to reduce the risk of another loss (and at one good out of 10 eggs last round, I don't love those odds), but I (like most of us) had hoped to have more on ice.  The wrinkle is that my insurance company requires a transfer within 90 days of the second retrieval - I have to find out what the "penalty" is if we don't do that.  If we can just opt to reimburse the insurance company for the last couple of cycles, I think it may be worth it to us.  But more not so fun decisions and everything's such a gamble with this stuff.

That would be fabulous if this is your batch and you don't have to go thru this again - Fx!

@JamieH2000 Aside from drawing out the journey (which I get is not fun at this point), it seems the DE option isn't going anywhere, so you can take a little more time to figure it out.  I can understand just wanting to be there already, but if you have any doubt about it, I can see how trying once again makes sense.  It's really frustrating when our bodies don't cooperate though.

Hopeful_mom

artemis618 PGS testing in the same day?  how amazing would that be!!  How far out is that from happening! I wish they were already offering that!  Your place is fancier then mine  He doesn't have to send out to a lab for testing?  It is interesting that after your MC you didn't TTC again right away as they say your body is fertile and ready to go!  BUT I get your concern and I probably wouldve done the same thing.    I'm mad at myself for not going straight to IVF and even doing so many IUI.  Besides my RE even OH wanted to keep trying them, he still doesn't comprehend the whole eggs being old and bad.  He has just been around many ppl that have had babies 40 and up so never really viewed it as an issue...including his ex so it was hard to even get him into the fertility office with me.
I'm assuming my BW would show if my I was producing extra LH i do think they test that too during screening.  I need to do more research on other protocols if this next round goes poorly.  Its hard when I know I MC a normal embryo and it was with the antagonist protocol, essentially you would think that protocol would work again right?  Do you go to Dr Sher too?
Have a party to go and get ready for, yet have no desire to go.  UGH IVF just sux and really plays with your psyche.  

@JamieH2000 i literally was going to say the same thing as artemis618 but she actually said it better  All of this sux period however you know DE aren't going anywhere!  Tell your hubby to sit tight you'll get there!!

JamieH2000

@artemis618- you sure do have a lot to consider! It's so good you have frozen eggs and it seems hopeful you could try again naturally. But I also think it would be hard to go through another loss when maybe ivf and PGS could prevent that. What a weird rule your insurance has about a transfer like that! When do you have to make all these big decisions by?

you ladies do have a good point that donor isn't going anywhere... and I don't want to make a decision based being impatient. It's not really that.. I have been thinking about donor since my first cycle was cancelled, so about 8 months. I was set on going to donor after 3 tries but then the last cycle gave me hope that maybe I could get enough eggs to have a chance.  However I have now tried probably 25-30 eggs/months worth and not gotten one positive. Which is pretty bad for someone that is 28/29. So I think the only answer can be severe egg quality issues. So I'm just not sure a 4th try is gonna produce any different results. And mentally I am not sure I can go thru getting my hopes up again only to go through this devastation again. It's taken a toll on my life and relationship and that may be the sign it's time to choose to move on.... and there's my whole dream of having two children too. Sorry for the novel! My thoughts are all over the place lately.

lrynwnab

@JamieH2000 Jamie, you might remember I posted on this board last fall; I haven't posted much since then but have been following your story since you were always so nice to everyone. I wanted to quickly share my story with you. I had an ER last Nov. 1 and only got 3 eggs, none made it to day 6. I had previously stimmed 4-5 times and never made it to ER.  Our RE gave us the option to move on to DE or try with OE again. I was like you and couldn't take the waiting or disappointment anymore. We had an agency/donor picked out by thanksgiving. Paperwork took a few weeks but by early January I had a calendar. I was on BC and lupron (BAD idea) for a few weeks and the donor started stimming early Feb. My lining never got thick enough bc of the Lupron so I didn't get to do a fresh transfer. But the next month, my lining made it, we did a frozen transfer of one embryo and *TW* I'm 8w pregnant this week. I truly don't regret moving on to DE, even though I could have tried again with OE. 

I am really hopeful for you that something will work in your favor, you have gone through so much for it not to. Thinking of you! xx 

JamieH2000

@lrynwnab- thank you so much for reaching out and congrats on your pregnancy!  Stories like yours give me so much hope. I sent you a PM!

mandasd

@lrynwnab thank you for sharing your story! It's support like yours that gives us ladies moving to DE hopeful. I know @JamieH2000 is hoping for one more try with OE but donor success is so high for those that deal with AMH that it makes one think to just move to the next step, DE. For me, I knew I only wanted to try two IVF cycles before moving to DE. My first IVF cycle was cancelled and so I really only got one shot. My stim cycle seemed to go good and I had 6-7 follies. I even made it to ER only to have empty follicles. So I just didn't want to go through that again. I'm in the process of finding a donor and I have no regrets going down this path at this time. None of this is easy and DE has its own set of challenges but I'm really excited about it! 

Hopeful_mom

Hi Ladies!  Have my update from today and not really sure how to feel about it.

Luckily all 7 are still growing but remember day 3 they should all be an 8 cell and only 3 are right now and last time 5 were at an 8 cell by day 3 and we see how well that went.  

Regulart Fert
7AB, 6BC, and 6B
ICSI
8A, 8A, 8AB and 7AB

I know they tell you its how they test and not how they look but worried that the others wont catch up and i'm lucky if i have 3 to test again!  How many cycles are we suppose to go through this.  I know my body can do it so WTH!  Feeling a bit down...

@JamieH2000 I PM and the whole thing deleted  will try again!!

artemis618

@Hopeful_mom I think still years away...but the artemis618sicles (my few suboptimal donor eggs to/from myself) aren't going anywhere either.  This guy doesn't actually do a ton of cycles per year - I picked him back then because he was kind of a pioneer with the egg freezing stuff and I wanted to make sure that they were vitrified and not slow frozen, plus he was down the street from me (also didn't hurt that all of his degrees were from my alma mater ).  I feel like somebody from one of the IVF boards this year (I've been on them all so far!) mentioned that her place did in-house PGS so I think they could do fresh (but maybe day 6 or something not ideal?  Can't remember for sure).  But I think they're getting there.  I've only had blasts on day 6 so far, so even that I don't think would help me.

@JamieH2000  IVF cycles are a lot to go through.  And even more frustrating at your age.  I think I'm encouraged since this last one gave me hope too - if it had gone like the first we'd have been done with it since there would have been no point if we couldn't even get anything to the point of testing.  It would definitely suck a lot to go through more losses - I don't actually have time to go through 9 more to find my good egg, but if that's the path to my baby, at this point, I feel like I'll do it (or at least try), hoping it'll all be worth it.  Not immediately transferring the one normal we have would also have to do with our wanting two kids (assuming we can even get one to stick), though there are no guarantees.  I think that's why my insurance requires a transfer within a reasonable amount of time after retrieval - they don't want to be paying for people's banking.  And most people (including us) do want to be pregnant ASAP.  It'd be different if we had four PGS normals, but we don't.

I feel like the RE with whom I froze my eggs pushes DE a lot - but he has great success with them.  It does take the egg quality issue out of the picture if that's the only problem, so it works from that perspective.  I can definitely understand the appeal and am open to it myself should I get there.

JamieH2000

@hopeful_mom- I would be very happy with your day 3 report! My RE always said 6-8 cells on day 3 and they are all there and good quality! plus if they looked this morning, the rest may be to 8 cells or more by now! Hang in there.. each day is terrifying during this part of the cycle.

@artemis618- IVF is definitely not for the faint of heart! I am so hoping you can get some more banked during your next round and your insurance doesn't give you trouble. I know there are a few clinics that can PGS same day (maybe in CA?).. is your RE hoping to offer that soon? I would have to believe you can get a couple PGS normals from 9 younger eggs! My RE definitely wasn't pushing us towards donor, but with a 92% success rate, that is what she would reco if we just really want to have success. I'm just struggling because I'm not sure a 4th round would really have a good shot at success. So far out of 14 total eggs retrieved in 2 iVFs, 10 were mature, 7 fertilized, only 2 have made it to day 5 and they were behind where they should have been (only early blasts- couldn't even grade them yet) and didn't stick. Plus another at least 12 months of IUI or naturally trying with good timing/ovulation... so if ~30 eggs so far haven't made it and stuck.. I am not sure another 8-10 (in the best case) would really have a chance of making it either. At this point.. just praying its "only" an egg quality issue and not a lining or sperm issue and that if we do donor, that could fix this and give us success. 

Hopeful_mom

artemis618 I still have high hopes for your artemis618sicles!!  You were so smart to freeze your eggs I kick myself for not doing that when I was younger!!  I blame myself but my drs too.  I was working so much so who had time to research all of this, obviously I was wrong.  

JamieH2000 well i like to think your RE is a smart cookie so that sounds good to me and actually makes me feel a bit better thank u!  I was thinking the same thing hoping they were all farther long later in the day too!  great minds think a like

What I find interesting is one of my 7A was a 5B on day 2...so at first it was ahead of the game and then it slowed down, how strange is that.  I think theres a part of me that was hoping one would be looking like a day 4 already (too many cells to even count)  The cycle I got pregnant I had one of those, so of course I think my normal embaby was that one.

TaylorMichel

@JamieH2000 I know how you feel I'm also 29 and to have egg issues seems crazy for us since everyone says we should be fine at our age. Personally, I had to "come around" to DE because our original diagnosis was for only MFI so my egg issues came as a shock. The good news for you is my RE said that even though my eggs were terrible at my/our age a lining issues are very unlikely. Thinking of you guys, FX you could sail through after finding a donor if that ends up being your route. 
@Hopeful_mom I'm thinking about you and those embabies! You have some really good prospects FX they are your golden eggs! 

Afm- I have been so crazy busy at work I just want to quit and go home. I'm a designer so this time of year is super busy. I kinda feel like Ive been in a fog since my last beta, sometimes I feel totally normal (which scares me) and other times like I'm about to pass out I'm so tired. My hubby is asking if I think we have 1 or 2 in there and honestly at this point I don't even feel pregnant half the time so I have no idea what's going on. I'm super stressed because we told my inlaws we are pregnant and now they are hounding us to tell everyone else in the family and I just can't at this point. I think it's the pessimist in me that because we've had terrible outcomes every other time I'm just waiting for the bad news to come and then will be stuck telling everyone in our families the news. Sorry for diatribe I just needed to vent! May 3rd can't come soon enough! 

Hopeful_mom

TaylorMichel sorry youre so stressed it sux!  Try and take it easy and remember being so tired is a sign of pregnancy!  I remember falling a sleep after my nieces 3yr old bday party and finding out I was pregnant with twins certainly made sense after the fact.  You shouldve asked for the 3rd beta to help ease your nerves.  AND i think you're smart for not telling the world!!  I wish I wouldve told my parents sooner but thats it, i'm glad i kept the news to myself.  You dont know what the future holds.  I know your family is excited as they should be but it really needs to be your decision and do what feels right for you!

hopefuljj

Hey ladies, I went in for my scan today on day 3 of my cycle but there was noting happening on my left ovary and only 3 on my right around size 5 so we are not beginning injections as planned.  Need to wait for bloodwork to see if the estradiol is enough to keep my FSH down and just going to keep taking it for now 3times a day. Going back in Monday for another scan.  I think I already know the answer to this, but does it sound like this cycle is on the way to being canceled? I'm not sure I'll ever have more follicles than that so......if she doesn't want to start I assume we likely won't unless my left one wakes up?  

JamieH2000

@taylormichel- I know what you mean.. I can't believe we started trying at 27 and still can't find a good egg. Its heart breaking and not fair. its hard to understand why, but hopefully once your baby is here, you wouldn't have wanted it any differently. I am glad your RE said that about the lining. I am terrified something else is still wrong with me or DH, but hopefully not! We are always here for you to vent! I'm sure this two weeks is torture. I can't imagine, but the statistics are on your side at this point!!

@hopefuljj- I'm sorry, it is sooo hard to have a delay at baseline. What is your AFC normally? I feel like if you ovaries are quiet, they at least start stimming and see how it goes. I think it would be up to you if you want to risk wasting the meds if you don't respond this cycle and have to cancel. I feel like sometimes more follciles pop up after baseline, but its just a gamble. Really really hoping there are more on Monday!

@hopeful_mom- i'll be checking for your day 5 update and hoping they are all at blast stage!!

AFM- I have FINALLY made a decision. Its been really hard the last few months (as you guys know ) but I am listening to my gut and moving on to donor eggs. From the beginning of ttc, I just had this feeling my eggs were bad. I can't explain it, and I even told my friend during month 4 of trying about my worries. I had just turned 28 and she thought I was crazy. I'm not moving on because I am impatient or can't keep waiting, but because in my gut I really don't think IVF #4 will work. I feel like my delays have been a sign that I need to be done. I was so torn in Feb about what to do next, and the "easiest" path was just to try again so I didn't have to really make the hard choice to move on.  Obviously my hopeful side thinks sometimes there is a chance, but not high enough to keep putting myself through this. I think this is the biggest, scariest decision I have ever made, but once I made the decision, i feel as a weight has lifted. I also believe that if I am meant to have a genetic child, I will someday. I hopefully have at least 10 more years of ovulating, so maybe we will catch a good egg in there if its meant to be. I'm still going to stick around if thats ok with you ladies, but it will be a few months before anything really gets going for us.

hopefuljj

@JamieH2000 thanks lady.   And how wonderful that you have made the decision and are feeling great about it!   I'm so happy for you and I feel like this is going to be an amazing journey for you now!  And ultimately who knows what the universe has in store for you, you may end up with a bio baby too at some point!  Congrats lady.  And can't wait to follow your new journey!

TaylorMichel

@hopefuljj I'm so sorry this cycle isn't going well. Maybe your other ovary will get with the program by Monday! Do you know what your AFC showed for that ovary? Thinking of you!

@JamieH2000 Ahhh- I'm so excited for you! Praying the donor match process goes smoothly! After our 3rd I've was cancelled is when we decided to take some time and look at other paths. As I said before it took about 4 months of praying about what the right choice for us was but once we decided to go the DE route it was so relieving. I can't wait to see how everything plays out for you, hopefully your baby is right around the corner!

hopefuljj

My total AFC is usually around 6:-/ and right now I have 0 on the sleepy Ovary.  Just going to try and stay positive!

Hopeful_mom

hopefuljj hmmmm You're stemming right now or not?  Usually the follies wake up as you go no?  My left ovary slept during cycle #3 and that the cycle I got 3 and became pregnant so you really never know.  Cycles #4 & 5 the left one has been more awake, last cycle didn't make a difference but really hoping that this cycle it does.  My RE converted cycle #2 afte 13days of stemming and had one follie ready, all that living at the clinic was super annoying to just have one in the end, but it made sense.  For me it was really my decision on ER to go for the 3 or not.  Its truly quaility over quantity hoping things turn around for u!

@JamieH2000 Funny you're the only post I saw earlier and then was running around the rest of the day.  Hoping your feeling more relaxed and breathing again  Excited to follow this next journet with u!

AFM: I did hear that so far I've got 2 blasts 5AA/5BB.  Of course I was hoping for more but was happy to hear that they were all still growing so lets hope tomorrow will have some more good news!!  From what I gather 3 are in a 1A stage which I believe is a blast stage but not the one that can be frozen yet.  Another was at the morula and another was MF - still haven't figured out what that means yet, anyone every hear of that at this stage for grading?

I'm wondering if part of the problem is that my embryos do better in the womb then outside.  For example, if I wanted to do a transfer with an embryo that couldn't make it to the necessary stage needed to be frozen, could that embryo make for a viable pregnancy.  Some things I've read say that the blastocyst has to get to a later stage to be frozen because an early stage blastocyst won't freeze.  Am I losing normal embryos that might be able to thrive if placed in my uterus and just aren't strong enough to freeze...ugh I know its a wild question and even my RE will i'm sure say anything is possible right?

hopefuljj

@Hopeful_mom not stimming, just continuing to estrogen prime to keep down my FSH and going to another scan Monday.  Maybe if there still isn't anything on my left side I will push to start stimming anyway....    and yay for your 2 blasts!!!!  I know of course you wanted more but still keeping the "it only takes one" mind frame:)!!    As for embryos trying to make it to freeze outside of your body, I asked my RE the very same thing.   If I do PGS they need them to make it to last and so they leave them to day 5.  If not doing pgs they check on them on day 3 and freeze if they look like the won't make it or do a fresh transfer if that's what you are on plan to do.  So I was like, wait, is it super risky to wait then?!!  She said this
"Any embryo that is normal must form a blastocyst (a day 5 embryo) before implanting.  Whether this occurs in our laboratory or in your uterus should not matter – but with that being said, we have no way to know for sure as this type of study cannot be done."
So not super helpful because she does point out that they can't really prove that the embryos would have had the same success rate had they been in the uterus:-/ but her opinion seems to be that they would be the same sucess rate.    She also said
"There are women with a low yield of eggs/embryos who opt to transfer on day 3 if the embryo(s) look good as they do not want to risk not having a transfer.  At your age it’s expected that ~50% of day 3 embryos will develop into blastocysts by day 5.  Women certainly get pregnant with a day 3 transfer, but chances are the embryos that get them pregnant would have developed appropriately in our lab too."

Anyway, I hope tomorrow brings you even more good news!!! 

JamieH2000

@taylormichel- Thanks!! Yes it has definitely taken some time to accept donor eggs. I feel like I have known in my gut for a while that this is what I would need, so I have been greiving for a long time and thats part of the reason the last few months have been so hard. I know its still a long road ahead, but praying for a smooth donor match and retrieval after so many bumps in the road already. Please keep us posted on your ultrasound!

@hopefuljj- thanks for the support! While I know I made the right decision and I'm excited, I still have my moments when I'm sad about the genetic part. Hopefully I will get my BFP soon and then I doubt I will feel sad about that anymore. I really really hope you ovary cooperates on Monday! Definitely quality over quantity and estrogen priming is supposed to help with good quality!

@hopeful_mom- Yay for at least 2!! and I think the other 3 at 1AA sound very promising too! 5 out or 7 would be AMAZING results. I think the normal is 25-50% of those that fertilize make it to blast. Hoping for some more good news for you today! I hear you on the uncertainty about PGS and when to transfer. Its SO hard that so much in this journey is just unknown and they don't have good answers for us. I guess we can only trust our RE and then go with our gut after that. I like things to be black and white, but in this world everything seems gray with no 'right' answer. The uncertainty makes this journey even harder. I tend to think that embryos that will make it, will make it regardless of when they are transferred (as long as you have a high quality lab). The whole thing about PGS that another lady posted on the other thread kind of freaks me out. It would be so nice to know which embryos are "normal" and which aren't but again its just so gray. 

mandasd

@JamieH2000 good for you! I'm excited for you! Lately, I've been wondering how the hubbys have been dealing with all of this especially DE. Even though we talked in length that DE was a possibility my hubby is having a hard time with it. I know we are totally not on the same page about it but I'm just not sure what he's struggling with. I'm ready to go but he's slower to warm, which is frustrating because the process is difficult enough and now if we can't make a decision about the process then it makes things worse when I feel like it doesn't need to be! 

JamieH2000

@mandasand- thanks! That is interesting that your DH is having a hard time and you don't know why exactly. Maybe he doesn't really know himself? It is a grieving process of letting go of what you thought your life would be like, but its usually much longer/harder on the one who is giving up their genetics I think. Initially my DH wasn't really into because of the cost and he could be happy without children. But since he knows that having children is really important to me, he has gotten on board. And he also couldn't take any more of seeing me hurt and depressed on this rollercoaster, so he was finally like i don't care about the cost, let's just do this and hopefully have success and be happy. He would have moved on after our last failure, but it was harder for me to accept because its my genetics I'm giving up. We have to go to a psych consult next week per my clinic's requirement, so hopefully that goes smoothly and no unknown reservations come up. haha better have a talk about that this weekend I guess.

20T

@JamieH2000 I'm so happy that you've made a decision that you seem so at peace with! I look forward to following your journey as I think we may be not far behind you. Although, I'm the one struggling with the DE decision, H is on board already. Wishing you all the luck!

JamieH2000

@20T- thank you!! I am at peace, but I still have my moments too Hoping they will get fewer and far between, and hopefully be gone once we get a BFP. I really really hope this last cycle is your one and you won't need DE. If you do end up going that route, I'll be here for questions/support always  

20T

Thank you @JamieH2000! If I can help at all through the moments, I'm always happy to chat.

Hopeful_mom

Just got the call and 6 blasts made it and were sent for testing.  I can't believe another 4 caught up.  WOO HOO!!  thanks for the support ladies your thoughts/advice really helped!  Praying there are some normies in this bunch!!

JamieH2000

@hopeful_mom- you just made my day!! that is the BEST news!!! how long until you get results?

hopefuljj

@hopeful_mom! YAAAAAY!!!!!!  Crossing all fingers and toes for A terrific rate of normal embabies!! 

TaylorMichel

@Hopeful_mom Oh. My. Gosh!!  I am so happy for you!!!! This is the best news! Praying hard for you! When will you hear?

Hopeful_mom

TaylorMichel hopefuljj JamieH2000  @kp214 @capps42613
thanks so much ladies!  Need you to keep praying with me i know is with all the support from all of you thats helping me through!!  Technically they say 2 weeks but hoping it just takes one! I even have a few AA grading.  This process has so many hurdles as we all know here so just hoping the good news can continue!  I'm just so proud of my lil fighters  
It means a lot having you ladies with me on this journey!  OH didn't even want an update he keeps saying everything is going good, you're not crying, everything is perfect...nice right!  It is fine praying I can just give him some good news!!!  Onto the next hurdle!