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Intro and questions

Hello wise ladies of 3T.  I had planned to wait till next cycle to intro but I'm just not sure what to do and I'm hoping for some advice.  Since I am 37 and H is 45 we started testing after TTC for 8 months and are finishing up our testing cycle.

 I had my follow up RE appointment and it was a mixed bad but mainly pretty good.  My ovarian reserve is good and my H has good swimmers.  The big issue is that my lining has been thin for 2 cycles in a row.  He had me start vaginal estrace for this cycle and progesterone supps for after O which I think is good.  But if this doesn't work then he wants to go to injects + trigger + TI, and I don't know if we are ready for that.  Our main concern is the risk of multiples which is a 20% risk of twins and 5% risk of higher order multiples.  I know that clomid can thin the lining so I don't think that would be a good idea.  Also we are going OOT to visit family Dec 19th so I don't know if we can cycle next month anyway.  I am considering asking for a femara cycle or just another one like this one with no stims but extra estrace and progesterone.  Thoughts? TIA
Me: 37                                               
DH: 45
BFP #1 3/19/14  EDD 11/29/14 MMC D&C 4/24/14
BFP #2  12/4/14 Beta #1 218 at 12dpo Beta #2 1055 at 16dpo
Saw heartbeat 12/29.  Please be a rainbow.
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Re: Intro and questions

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    Hi and welcome to the board!
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    I don't have any advice to offer, but wanted to say welcome and good luck!
    Me: 31 (PCOS) possible right tube issues DH: 36 (SA normal) 
    Started dating in 2006, Married 2012 
    TTC since November 2013 
    First RE visit due to irregular periods: June 2014
    Lap/Hysto to remove polyps, cyst and tube blockage 11/6
    Cycle 1 (Dec. 2014) TI with Clomid, Trigger, & Progesterone CX due to no response
    Impatiently Waiting CD1 to try again with Fermara Back on the bench due to giant cyst,
    who know I'd ovulate on my own after a cancelled cycle and end up with a mega cyst :(
    All Welcome
     
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    Welcome, but sorry you have to join us. 

    IMO, if you are not sure you are ready to take a step it is best to communicate that to your RE and see what your other options are. A femara cycle seems to make sense, but I would see what your RE's rationale is in suggesting injects so soon and ask what his/her thoughts are about other options. 
    Thanks.  He did say that he jumps straight to injects in patients who have already had a loss because the m/c rate is lower with injects than oral meds.
    I will probably try to call next week and I also want my H to talk directly with the doc as he asks me questions that I didn't think to ask.
    Me: 37                                               
    DH: 45
    BFP #1 3/19/14  EDD 11/29/14 MMC D&C 4/24/14
    BFP #2  12/4/14 Beta #1 218 at 12dpo Beta #2 1055 at 16dpo
    Saw heartbeat 12/29.  Please be a rainbow.
    imagerainbows
              
    All welcome                                   
                              
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    :-h  Hi OSE!
    Me: 37                                               
    DH: 45
    BFP #1 3/19/14  EDD 11/29/14 MMC D&C 4/24/14
    BFP #2  12/4/14 Beta #1 218 at 12dpo Beta #2 1055 at 16dpo
    Saw heartbeat 12/29.  Please be a rainbow.
    imagerainbows
              
    All welcome                                   
                              
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    Hmm, Ketchup, thanks for commenting, that is what he said.  I just looked around on pub med and couldn't find anything to confirm of refute.  It is really the only practice around but I could try to get a 2nd opinion within the practice.
    I might just call and ask if I can do a femara cycle or 2 first since I don't want to do clomid because I have lining issues.  I do ovulate on my own but often fairly late in my cycle.
    Thanks ladies for the welcome and for giving me more things to think about.
    Me: 37                                               
    DH: 45
    BFP #1 3/19/14  EDD 11/29/14 MMC D&C 4/24/14
    BFP #2  12/4/14 Beta #1 218 at 12dpo Beta #2 1055 at 16dpo
    Saw heartbeat 12/29.  Please be a rainbow.
    imagerainbows
              
    All welcome                                   
                              
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    Hello and welcome to the board!  I don't know much about injects or Femara (currently benched and was only on Clomid for my 3 IUI cycles before I had to take a break for surgery).  


    I hope you are here briefly and that things work out for you soon!
    **Formerly EastBayBride508**

    Me 34   Him 33

    Me - Left salpingo-oophorectomy at 19 due to large cyst/torsion  and 2 large uterine fibroids found at age 30
    Him - Borderline low sperm count (correcting through Fertility Blend supplement)

    Married 8/20/2011
    TTC #1 since Jan 2013
    First appointment with RE 10/2013.  
    April 2014 - Clomid 100mg CD3-7.  HCG shot CD10 IUI #1 done on 4/12/14 (CD12) ....BFN
    May 2014 - Break cycle to repeat saline sonogram and re-group.  Travel to Kauai 5/7-5/12 (Yay!!)
    June 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD4-8.  HCG shot CD14.  IUI#2 done on 6/9 and 6/10 (CD15-16) w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW .... BFN
    July 2014 - Clomid 150mg CD3-7.  Ultrasound CD12 - 4 mature follies! HCG trigger shot CD12 AM.  IUI#3 on CD13 w/ Prometrium suppositories during TWW ....BFN
    July 2014 - Repeat ultrasound done to measure size of fibroid - 8x9cm (the size of a grapefruit!) Surgery referral made.
    August 2014 - MRI done which revealed 2 fibroids: a 13x15cm fibroid as well as an 8x7cm one.  Super freak out mode over surgery plan.  OB-GYN/surgeon said surgery would most likely have to be a laparotomy (open abdominal surgery)
    August 2014 - After a 2nd opinion, plan to take Lupron x 2 months to shrink fibroids then laparoscopic/robotic myomectomy.  Surgery date is set for Nov 21st!  
    November 2014 - Robotic myomectomy done (2 large fibroids removed, mild endo found).  Benched x 3 months

    PAIF/SAIF welcome
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    Welcome.. my RE said that Femera does have a less chance of multiples, I am not sure about less chance of m/c with injects. I would definitely ask for some more information. I will say that even Femera thinned my lining. I might be that odd rare person, but just my experience. Good luck!
    Married: 12/15/2012    TTC: 08/2014
    Husband: 26 SA: normal
    Me: 23 Low AMH and damaged ovaries due to chemotherapy.
    No AF or O in 3 years. HSG showed a slight T shaped uterus.

    High Risk OB 9/29- got the ok to get pregnant.
    RE Appt:  10/28/ U/S showed follicles, but also small damaged ovaries.
    B/W results CD0: all normal except low AMH at 1.3
    Cycle 1-November (TI)- Femera 2.5mg, 2mg Estradoil, and Trigger=BFN
    Cycle 2-December (TI)- Femera 2.5 mg ,4mg Estradoil, and Trigger= No O
    Cycle 3-January (TI)- Femera 5 mg, 2mg Estra
    doil, and Trigger=


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    Obviously I have no idea what I am doing so I cannot offer advice, but hi :-h
    TTCAL January Siggy Challenge: Animals in the Snow

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    About Me: 

    AMA 35 :  DH 33
    BFP#1 1/26/14 (EDD: 10/7/14).  MMC 3/10/14 D&C 3/14/14
    RE Consult 11/3/14 - AMH 2.25 "great" . FSH 7.10 . Low Vitamin D
    Myomectomy 12/17/14.  Benched until March.

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    My Ovulation Chart
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    Hey TLC, so sorry to see you over here but welcome! No advice since I am newish too but wanted to say hi!!!
    Me: 30   DH:31 
    Married 9/2010
    TTC 10/2013
    RE Help from 10/2014-10/2016 (11 failed IUIs, a corrective surgery, and a donor embryo cycle)
    9/2016-transferred two donor embies
    BFP 9/29/26 EDD June 11
    BabyGaga BabyFruit Ticker
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    Hi :-)
    I don't have too much to add. I know it seems like a big step, as I was really hesitant to start injects and IUI as well.
    For us, at that time, we really felt like we trusted the dr so that meant taking her advice and moving forward.
    Unfortunately, 5 IUIs later and I'm not pregnant, but I'm glad we started the process when we did.
    Also, my RE at that time also briefly mentioned something about injects bc of Rpl. However, the next RE didn't seem to believe that

    4 Losses (2003, 2008, Apr 2012, & Oct 2012)
    All RPL and IF testing with multiple REs = normal

    5 IUIs = BFN

    All AL are welcome
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    Hi and welcome! This cycle with Letrozole/Femera I only had one follicle (it was 22mm when I was told to trigger). My lining never thinned, it was 9.5 also at the time of my trigger. Never have had injects though.

    ***SIGGY WARNING***

    Me (26) & DH (26)
    Dog Momma to 2 amazing furbabies
    Started dating: May 6, 2005 & Married: August 4, 2012
    Diagnosis: PCOS


    September 2013 - January 2014: Not trying but not preventing
    February 2014:
    Officially TTC (BBT, OPKs, etc)
    February-August 2014: Irregular Cycles, U/S showed Fibroids/Cysts, Provera required to get AF, BFNs
    September & October 2014: Testing Months with Reproductive Endocrinologist!
    DH's SA: Normal (116.4 million sperm, 97% motility, 36% morphology) - WHO criteria
    DH's Repeat SA: Poss. Low Morph. (138 million sperm, 73% motility, 8% morphology) - Kruger criteria
    HSG and SIS: Normal (tubes clear)

    Medicated Cycle:
     5mg Letrozole + Trigger Injection + TI = BFP!!

    ESTIMATED DUE DATE: AUGUST 13, 2015

    Beta #1: 12/8 - 1,040 Beta #2: 12/10 - 2,902 Beta #3: 12/16 - 19,321
    Ultrasound #1: 12/12 (5 weeks 1 day) - Gestational sac and yolk sac present
    Ultrasound #2: 12/18 (6 weeks 0 days) - Measuring good, heart rate 99
    Ultrasound #3: 12/26 (7 weeks 1 day) - Measuring good, heart rate 150




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    Hi, welcome to 3T and I'm sorry you find yourself here. I would be completely honest with RE on where you feel comfortable starting the protocol and see what recommendations he gives you. Clomid thinned my lining and I had more follicles w/ clomid cycles than with Femara. The two cycles I was on Femara my lining was good. Good Luck!


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    3T January Siggy Challenge: New Years Resolutions 
    TTC since 10/2010 (Rhythm method since 2007)

    Me (33) Sept 2012 - DX Low ovulation/progesterone, Luteal Phase Defect. HSG 5/2012: both tubes are open, cervix and lining look good;
    September 2014 DX Hashimoto's; November 2014: PCOS IR

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    DH (37) Sept 2012 SA Normal; October 2014 Mild MFI count 42 Million, Motility 36%, Morphology 2%. Clomid 50mg,
    ***
    2004 Cyrosurgery, LEEP
    May 2012 - HSG Clear; June 2012 - Appointment with RE
    July 2012 - October 2012 - Clomid 50mg W/ TI & Progesterone 3 mature follicles- BFN
    January 2013 IUI #1 (900,000 post wash) Clomid 50mg, TI & Progesterone 2 mature follicles - BFN
    February 2013 IUI #2 (1.3 Mil post wash) Clomid 50mg, TI & Progesterone 4 mature follicles - BFN
    March 2013 IUI #1-3 (2.5 mil post wash) Clomid 50mg, Baby Aspirin (lining thinned) TI & Progesterone - 2 mature follicles BFN
    April 2013 Benched due to cyst, May 2013 WTF appointment
    June 2013 DH SA mild MFI break for 2 months to re-test; August 2013 - DH SA 36 Mil count, 36% Motility, Morp 2%
    September - December 2013 - Mental sanity Break
    January 2014 - IUI #4 switches to natural due to scheduling conflict Femara TI & Progesterone - 1 mature follicle - BFN
    May 2014-June 2014 - DH Appointment w/ Urologist to check Bi-lateral Varicocele; 2nd opinion w/ another urologist - bi-lateral varicocele dx is slight no surgery
    July 2014 DH starts clomid 25mg daily SA 53.8 Mil count, Motility 37%, Morph 3%;
    September 2014 DH Repeat SA after being on clomid for 3 months 42 Mil Count, Motility 36%, Morph 2%
    October 2014 Me: Hashimoto's DX, DH taken off clomid;
    November 2014 Me: new RE PCOS IR Diagnosis
    December 2014: IUI #4 Follitism 75iu 7 days, TI, IUI & Progesterone, BFMFN

    January 2015: IUI #5
    Gonal-F 75iu 7 days, TI, IUI & Progesterone, Another BFMFN onto IUI #6
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    Welcome! Though sorry you have to be here.

    Glad you have some good results! Estrace/estradiol worked wonders on my lining. I hope it works well for you. :)

    The risk of mulitples/HOM is directly related to the number of mature follies. One of the reasons injects are used is to try to get more chances each month with more follies. But you could talk to your RE about dosing your injects to aim for 1 or 1-2 follies, and consider canceling if you get 3. That doesn't entirely eradicate the chance for HOM, but it helps - our RE's office cancels any non-IVF cycle with over 3 follies (I believe for any age woman) and they have a less than 1% triplets rate.
    January 3T Siggy Challenge - New Year's Resolutions
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    Me (29), DH (30) TTC actively 54 55+ cycles | All BFNs
    MFI (low everything) | Endo Stage 1 & Stenotic Cervix (treated) | PCO
    Married - July 2008 | Started TTC - Jan 2009RE Visit #1 - Mar 2014 
    IUI #1 ICI #1 - June | IUI #1.1 Laparoscopy - Aug
    IUIs #1.2, 2, 3 - Sept, Oct, Nov (Letrozole) - BFNs 
    IUI #4 - Dec (Bravelle) | IUI #5 - Dec/Jan (Bravelle) - 5 follies + TI - BFNs
    IUI #5.1 - Jan (Bravelle) Cancelled 
    Planning to start IVF in March!
    ***All Welcome***
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