Secondary IF

HSM?

Hi gals,

I go for an HSM on October 16. This is incredibly sucky timing because I hope to ovulate on Monday and we were going to try getting it on with pre-seed. But now I am concerned that I could be pregnant and not know in time. Anyhow, that's another topic. I will probably just try to play it safe and accept that we are out this month. 

My real question is; What do I expect? Pain? Discomfort? What about afterwards? My OB is a bit of a douche and didn't explain anything. I'd appreciate any insight. 

Thanks!
Me: 27 DH: 28
Diagnosis: PCOS, irregular cycles, old lady eggs. DH is fine.
Started TTC in January 2010. BFP December 25, 2011 between IF appts. 
DD born August 31, 2012
Began TTC again in Jan. 2013. 
Four rounds of Clomid - BFN
Fifth round of Clomid September/Oct - cancelled
HSG scheduled for Oct. 30 - Tubes all clear
December: Round one of Femara  - BFN
Round two - ? 

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Re: HSM?

  • Idk what a HSM is? What does it even stand for?


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    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
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  • Do you mean HSG?  You're not supposed to have one after you o for that exact reason.  They're supposed to be done between cd7-12, I believe.  And I had always been told no unprotected sex for a week leading up to it.  


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    start ttc #1 in Jan 2009
    dx PCOS in May 2010, begin metformin
    Two failed clomid cycles (made lining too thin)
    Started acupuncture while saving for IVF in Sept 2011
    Add herbal infusions to the mix in Dec 2011
    Hoping holistic approach works!!!

    BFP on April 2012 at 11dpo
    Meepy Man born on Jan 2013 - Hip Hip Hurray!

    Ready to start ttc #2 April 2013, but plan to be an extended BF'er
    Back on metformin Aug 2013
    Restart herbal infusions Sept 2013 - currently drinking nettle, oatstraw, and red raspberry leaf
    DS weaned in April 2014
    Taking a break from herbs and just riding the healthy train.  
    Planning medicated cycle end of summer.  FX I get KU before then!!!
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  • yeah, for an HSG they'll also make you POAS the morning off, or sometimes even there, just to make sure. You can't do it if you think you may be pregnant.
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  • The facility performing the HSG as well as my RE made it very clear you are only blue to schedule an HSG in the pre-ovulatory part of your cycle. They wouldn't even let me schedule it unless it was between CD 7 and 11.
    Me: 36, DH: 36
    DH's SA = normal
    1 tube only wonder
    AFC 3-5, AMH 0.30

    BFP #1 3/29/11.  EDD 12/4/11... Missed m/c 5/9/11. Cytotec fail. D&C 5/17/11.
    BFP #2   7/5/11.  EDD 3/14/12... Our rainbow Kellen born 3/14/12 via c/s.
    BFP #3 5/30/13.  EDD 2/8/14...  6wk u/s HB 126. 8wk u/s lost HB. D&C 7/12/13.
    BFP #4 2/18/14.  EDD 10/30/14... Ruptured ectopic with L tube removed & D&C 3/7/14.
    BFP #5 7/27/14.  EDD 4/9/15...  m/c @ 5w4d.

    IVF #1    Oct 2014 - antagonist protocol: 9R, 7M, 5F. 3dt of 3 Grade 2 embies. BFN. 
    IVF #2    Jan 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.  Converted to IUI #1. BFFN
    IVF #2.1 March 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.

    BFP #6  (SUPRISE!) 3/19/15.  EDD 11/30/15...  CP at 4w2d.
    IUI #2:    Clomid + Follistim = 3 follies. BFN.
    IVF #2.2 May 2015 - horrible response to micro lupron flare protocol: 3R, 3M, 3F. 3dt of 2 Grade 3 embies. BFFN. 

    BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).

    the universe can fuck off.


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  • If you are talking about HSGs, I believe I had mine a few days before my first IUI.  I don't have my calendar nearby, but I think my HSG was around CD10 or 11.  It was really uncomfortable for about 20 seconds, maybe less.  I just remember clenching my fists really tight because I didn't know what to expect.  I had very mild cramping afterwards, and that was it.
    Good luck, you'll do fine!
    - DD born July 2010 -
    - TTC #2 since January 2013 -
    - Clomid cycles February - May 2014, all BFN -
    - HSG July 2014, all clear! -
    - July '14: IUI #1, w/Femara & Ovidrel= BFN -
    - August '14: cycle cancelled -
    - October '14: IUI #2 w/Femara, Bravelle, & Ovidrel : BFP!-
    -November '14:  Discovered MMC @ 6 wk. ultrasound-
    -February '15: IUI #3 w/Femara, Bravelle, & Ovidrel: Success!-
    -Due November 2015-
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  • I was also only allowed to schedule my HSG between CD7-11.  The procedure wasn't that bad and it was pretty similar to a pap.  I didn't really have any cramping afterward.  I was a little thrown off by the lighted speculum they used.  It kind of looked like a light saber.  Haha!!
    Me: 34 DH: 36 
    DD#1 04/28/11

    TTC#2 since April 2012 - Unexplained Secondary IF (probably PCOS)
    Dec 13-March 14 Femara and TI - BFN
    April 2014 IUI#1 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    June 2014 IUI#2 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFP 7/9/14 - No HB on 8/13/14 @ 8w4d
    Nov 2014 IUI#3 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFFN
    Jan 2015 IUI#4 (Femara + Ovidrel) - BFN
    Feb 2015 IUI#5 Converted to TI (7.5mg Femara) - BFP 3/17/15!!!
    Beta #1 82, Beta #2 202 Please let this be it.
  • I'm not convinced she meant HSG, she typed HSM twice, and the M is no where near the G on the keyboard. 


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    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • I'm not convinced she meant HSG, she typed HSM twice, and the M is no where near the G on the keyboard. 

    Hmmm. You're right, Castillo. Come back, op, and clarify for us!
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    start ttc #1 in Jan 2009
    dx PCOS in May 2010, begin metformin
    Two failed clomid cycles (made lining too thin)
    Started acupuncture while saving for IVF in Sept 2011
    Add herbal infusions to the mix in Dec 2011
    Hoping holistic approach works!!!

    BFP on April 2012 at 11dpo
    Meepy Man born on Jan 2013 - Hip Hip Hurray!

    Ready to start ttc #2 April 2013, but plan to be an extended BF'er
    Back on metformin Aug 2013
    Restart herbal infusions Sept 2013 - currently drinking nettle, oatstraw, and red raspberry leaf
    DS weaned in April 2014
    Taking a break from herbs and just riding the healthy train.  
    Planning medicated cycle end of summer.  FX I get KU before then!!!
  • Sorry ladies, I never get time to bump! 

    It's the test where they put dye into your fallopian tubes to see if there are any blockages. That is the acronym my OB used for it - but maybe that's not the right one or I heard him wrong. (he has an incredibly thick accent like whoa). 

    Anyhow, shooting me up with dye, yo. 
    Me: 27 DH: 28
    Diagnosis: PCOS, irregular cycles, old lady eggs. DH is fine.
    Started TTC in January 2010. BFP December 25, 2011 between IF appts. 
    DD born August 31, 2012
    Began TTC again in Jan. 2013. 
    Four rounds of Clomid - BFN
    Fifth round of Clomid September/Oct - cancelled
    HSG scheduled for Oct. 30 - Tubes all clear
    December: Round one of Femara  - BFN
    Round two - ? 

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  • Lol yea, that'd be HSG. I've done two, the first one was extremely painful/crampy- they had to forcefully dilate my cervix to get the cath in, etc. 2nd one was not bad, but I think the first procedure you have done like this is always the worst. I've had 2 SHGs since that first HSG (just water in the ute) and they were a breeze compared to that first procedure. 


    Spontaneous pregnancy #1
    DD1 July 31, 2011

    Trying for #2 since Oct 11
    732973 Clomid Cycles
    2 IUIs 
    3 Fresh IVFs= 1 Ectopic treated with MTX
    Spontaneous pregnancy #2= Ectopic #2= lost left tube
    Spontaneous pregnancy #3= DD2 January 29, 2016
    Spontaneous pregnancy #4= Ectopic #3
    Spontaneous pregnancy #5= Baby #3 is a BOY!!! 



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  • Mine was pretty painful but over quickly. They said I "Might feel some cramping" but It felt like one pretty good contraction, then it was over. I would suggest bringing your own pad though as the ones they will give you there can double as a flotation device.
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  • I went in for my first HSG not knowing if I was ovulating or not. They vagcam'd me 4 days before and the day of and determined that I had in fact O'd. Since DH & I had had sex, they skipped the dye part of the HSG. (Couldn't get in anyway, so it didn't matter.)

    So, no sex before the HSG or they will just make you come back for it. 

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  • for me, hsg was no big deal. No spotting or cramping. They did require it be before cd 12. I did not get pregnant immediately following, but the next cycle plus clomid I did. I almost want to get another one just for old times sake. Good luck!

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  • Mine was quick and pretty much painless.  But they did require me to have it after the end of my last period and before there was any chance of ovulation (~CD 10).
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  • I am going to call and reschedule. I just ovulated. I don't want to chance that there could be a wee baby in there. 

    Thanks for the information. Not sure why I thought it was HSM. I'm learning haha. 
    I think I will reschedule for two Thursdays from now (they only do it on Thursday.) 
    Me: 27 DH: 28
    Diagnosis: PCOS, irregular cycles, old lady eggs. DH is fine.
    Started TTC in January 2010. BFP December 25, 2011 between IF appts. 
    DD born August 31, 2012
    Began TTC again in Jan. 2013. 
    Four rounds of Clomid - BFN
    Fifth round of Clomid September/Oct - cancelled
    HSG scheduled for Oct. 30 - Tubes all clear
    December: Round one of Femara  - BFN
    Round two - ? 

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  • they only do it on thursdays? that is pretty crappy of them. glad you are going to wait, that's best. GL.
    Me: 36, DH: 36
    DH's SA = normal
    1 tube only wonder
    AFC 3-5, AMH 0.30

    BFP #1 3/29/11.  EDD 12/4/11... Missed m/c 5/9/11. Cytotec fail. D&C 5/17/11.
    BFP #2   7/5/11.  EDD 3/14/12... Our rainbow Kellen born 3/14/12 via c/s.
    BFP #3 5/30/13.  EDD 2/8/14...  6wk u/s HB 126. 8wk u/s lost HB. D&C 7/12/13.
    BFP #4 2/18/14.  EDD 10/30/14... Ruptured ectopic with L tube removed & D&C 3/7/14.
    BFP #5 7/27/14.  EDD 4/9/15...  m/c @ 5w4d.

    IVF #1    Oct 2014 - antagonist protocol: 9R, 7M, 5F. 3dt of 3 Grade 2 embies. BFN. 
    IVF #2    Jan 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.  Converted to IUI #1. BFFN
    IVF #2.1 March 2015 cancelled due to dominant follicle.

    BFP #6  (SUPRISE!) 3/19/15.  EDD 11/30/15...  CP at 4w2d.
    IUI #2:    Clomid + Follistim = 3 follies. BFN.
    IVF #2.2 May 2015 - horrible response to micro lupron flare protocol: 3R, 3M, 3F. 3dt of 2 Grade 3 embies. BFFN. 

    BFP #7 (beyond surprised again!) 4/26/16. EDD 1/5/17. beautiful betas!!!! and then near-fatal hemorrhagic corpus luteum. turns out baby was ectopic after all; another lap 5/6 (@24dpo).

    the universe can fuck off.


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    all AL welcome. TTC #2 for 43 44 months.
    follow my infertility journey here at timestandsstillblog.com

  • Jodee37 said:
    they only do it on thursdays? that is pretty crappy of them. glad you are going to wait, that's best. GL.
    Blame Canada. 
    Me: 27 DH: 28
    Diagnosis: PCOS, irregular cycles, old lady eggs. DH is fine.
    Started TTC in January 2010. BFP December 25, 2011 between IF appts. 
    DD born August 31, 2012
    Began TTC again in Jan. 2013. 
    Four rounds of Clomid - BFN
    Fifth round of Clomid September/Oct - cancelled
    HSG scheduled for Oct. 30 - Tubes all clear
    December: Round one of Femara  - BFN
    Round two - ? 

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  • Blame Canada. 

    Which part of Canada? I'm in Toronto.
    And mine were definitely not just scheduled Thursdays :D And they would only schedule it between CD5-10 I believe.

    Hopefully you get into an RE soon!! We skipped the OB thing. I'll guess it's a regional thing.
    Me: 32, DH: 33
    DS #1: April 2010
    DS #2: July 2015 (preemie born at 31 weeks) - our little miracle conceived through ART - unexplained secondary infertility/adenomyosis
  • sailorgal said:
    Blame Canada. 

    Which part of Canada? I'm in Toronto.
    And mine were definitely not just scheduled Thursdays :D And they would only schedule it between CD5-10 I believe.

    Hopefully you get into an RE soon!! We skipped the OB thing. I'll guess it's a regional thing.
    Just east of you. Belleville way ;)
    Me: 27 DH: 28
    Diagnosis: PCOS, irregular cycles, old lady eggs. DH is fine.
    Started TTC in January 2010. BFP December 25, 2011 between IF appts. 
    DD born August 31, 2012
    Began TTC again in Jan. 2013. 
    Four rounds of Clomid - BFN
    Fifth round of Clomid September/Oct - cancelled
    HSG scheduled for Oct. 30 - Tubes all clear
    December: Round one of Femara  - BFN
    Round two - ? 

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  • Ah you guys have beautiful fall leaves that way. We have some but mostly concrete. We had hoped to head that way this weekend to admire them but my cousins asked to take my son overnight so I jumped at that instead. 
    Me: 32, DH: 33
    DS #1: April 2010
    DS #2: July 2015 (preemie born at 31 weeks) - our little miracle conceived through ART - unexplained secondary infertility/adenomyosis
  • sailorgal said:
    Ah you guys have beautiful fall leaves that way. We have some but mostly concrete. We had hoped to head that way this weekend to admire them but my cousins asked to take my son overnight so I jumped at that instead. 
    LOL a kid-free evening always trumps scenic drives!
    Me: 27 DH: 28
    Diagnosis: PCOS, irregular cycles, old lady eggs. DH is fine.
    Started TTC in January 2010. BFP December 25, 2011 between IF appts. 
    DD born August 31, 2012
    Began TTC again in Jan. 2013. 
    Four rounds of Clomid - BFN
    Fifth round of Clomid September/Oct - cancelled
    HSG scheduled for Oct. 30 - Tubes all clear
    December: Round one of Femara  - BFN
    Round two - ? 

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