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Your body *does* know when an egg has been fertilized

I hate to see bad information being passed around. It's called "early pregnancy factor" - a protein your body produces hours after fertilization occurs and it will show up on a blood test. 

Pretty cool stuff to read about.  If you feel like google-ing, there's a wikipedia page and a bunch of research articles on it.  It was discovered back in the 70s.  Makes me wonder why there hasn't been more research into this since and why its not more widely known.

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  • I've never heard of this so I can't say for sure but I would venture to guess that the research hasn't proven it to be reliable. I would be interested to read the studies to see what they found.

    Also,I don't know if you're aware of this but Wikipedia is not a source I would trust on this particular subject. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think anyone can go on that site and add information. Not exactly credible.
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  • Your body may know, I can't say for sure whether that information is accurate, but there is no way your mind would be aware of it until it has implanted and symptoms begin.
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  • ksuRN09 said:
    I've never heard of this so I can't say for sure but I would venture to guess that the research hasn't proven it to be reliable. I would be interested to read the studies to see what they found. Also,I don't know if you're aware of this but Wikipedia is not a source I would trust on this particular subject. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think anyone can go on that site and add information. Not exactly credible.
    Correct. Wikipedia is a public and open source resource so anyone can modify an article.  Most articles cite their sources, but there definitely some incorrect information on there. You're better off relying on medical articles and studies when it comes to your body.
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  • ksuRN09 said:
    I've never heard of this so I can't say for sure but I would venture to guess that the research hasn't proven it to be reliable. I would be interested to read the studies to see what they found. Also,I don't know if you're aware of this but Wikipedia is not a source I would trust on this particular subject. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think anyone can go on that site and add information. Not exactly credible.
    In my former life (and current side-gig) as a journalist, we were forbidden to ever use Wikipedia as a resource for anything, as it was totally unreliable. Never base your information on Wikipedia.

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  • Your body may know, I can't say for sure whether that information is accurate, but there is no way your mind would be aware of it until it has implanted and symptoms begin.
    There is some research backing it.

    One major point she is missing? Fertilization =/= pregnant. The egg can be fertilized and fail to grow properly, there may be a genetic issue that stops growth immediately, it may not implant. If a fertilized egg guaranteed pregnancy, IVF would have 100% success rates. It does not.

    That is true. I mean, sure it makes sense that parts of your body would be aware of fertilization seeing how fertilization is occurring in it. Parts of your body are aware of cell division in general, you know hair growth and all that. You're right, an egg can fertilize and not implant.
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  • For me personally, I'm not really interested in knowing if fertilization happens so I can then wonder if implantation will happen.  It seems entirely too stressful.
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    @dorothyzbornak97 - Very random... Loving the siggy pic!
    Thanks! I thought it was pretty appropriate, especially with all the stupid posts on here lately.

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  • @Joy2611 I didn't consider that aspect but you're right. It does seem like it would be unnecessary stress.

    @dorothyzbornak97 When I was in college, all of our profs specifically told us Wikipedia would not be accepted as a source for our papers.
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  • A lot of things could go wrong during the 2ww. Sometimes its best not to know or realize these things. Ok your body realizes the egg was fertilized it doesnt mean that fertilized egg will implant. A fertilized egg does not mean pregnant. Its not worth stressing over...
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  • Valie18 said:
    In defence of Wikipedia - in some areas of research it's information is very good. It may even be more up-to-date than what you will find in journals (journals take time to publish even after articles are accepted.) But... Wikipedia is not a "source" although its references are usually a good indication of where to find relevant credible information.
    You can use Wikipedia to get links to legit stuff, but most people over the age of 12 know you don't say "Well I read it on Wikipedia" if you want it to be taken seriously.

    I would say everyone over 12, but clearly we have found one person that missed that memo.

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  • My son can't use Wikipedia for any of his research on papers either. He said he even knows people that for kicks loves to go in and change stuff.
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  • Of course I know Wikipedia is not 100% reliable.  Just thought it may be a good quick overview as opposed to digging through the medical studies.

    And no, it might not be helpful information, just interesting.  I thought it was very interesting as it was something I never heard of until recently and thought somebody else might be interested too.

    Maybe its possible someday we could have a test to detect fertilization a day or two after ovulation.  But then with implantation not a sure thing, is that something we really want to know? 

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  • Joy2611 said:
    For me personally, I'm not really interested in knowing if fertilization happens so I can then wonder if implantation will happen.  It seems entirely too stressful.
    I agree, it's better to just wait the extra couple weeks instead of stressing about it.
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  • kim1730 said:

    Of course I know Wikipedia is not 100% reliable.  Just thought it may be a good quick overview as opposed to digging through the medical studies.

    And no, it might not be helpful information, just interesting.  I thought it was very interesting as it was something I never heard of until recently and thought somebody else might be interested too.

    Maybe its possible someday we could have a test to detect fertilization a day or two after ovulation.  But then with implantation not a sure thing, is that something we really want to know? 

    I find this very interesting. I am undecided.

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  • ksuRN09 said:
    I've never heard of this so I can't say for sure but I would venture to guess that the research hasn't proven it to be reliable. I would be interested to read the studies to see what they found. Also,I don't know if you're aware of this but Wikipedia is not a source I would trust on this particular subject. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think anyone can go on that site and add information. Not exactly credible.
    Wikipedia is actually more reliable than static encyclopedias these days. Yes, anyone can add information, but if it's totally off-base it will be corrected within minutes by others. 

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  • Right, but YOU don't know the egg is fertilized and no doctor is going to waste time testing for this. Fertilization =/= Pregnant Gah. Please change the title of this before we get a million butthurt newbs in here telling us they felt fertilization.
    I can see it now... Threads that say, "I felt a cramp after O... Do you think it was because my egg was just fertilized?" 
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    kim1730 said:

    Of course I know Wikipedia is not 100% reliable.  Just thought it may be a good quick overview as opposed to digging through the medical studies.

    And no, it might not be helpful information, just interesting.  I thought it was very interesting as it was something I never heard of until recently and thought somebody else might be interested too.

    Maybe its possible someday we could have a test to detect fertilization a day or two after ovulation.  But then with implantation not a sure thing, is that something we really want to know? 

    I find this very interesting. I am undecided.
    If m/c rates are 1 in 4. ONE IN FOUR. Do you really want to know the frequency of fertilized eggs that don't make it?
    And the quote tree will forever be effed.

    I've been thinking about and I think I'd like to know that fertilization can happen for us. After that I wouldn't want to know again.

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  • TeeJ526 said:
    Right, but YOU don't know the egg is fertilized and no doctor is going to waste time testing for this. Fertilization =/= Pregnant Gah. Please change the title of this before we get a million butthurt newbs in here telling us they felt fertilization.
    I can see it now... Threads that say, "I felt a cramp after O... Do you think it was because my egg was just fertilized?" 
    Those already exist. Now it will be "I felt a cramp 1 day after O! Why won't my doctor bring me in for a test already?!?!?"

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  • Right, but YOU don't know the egg is fertilized and no doctor is going to waste time testing for this. Fertilization =/= Pregnant Gah. Please change the title of this before we get a million butthurt newbs in here telling us they felt fertilization.

    This reminds me...years ago on here, probably when I was TTC#1, in 2009, there was a post about a girl who felt a "pop" when fertilization happened.  I can't remember if it was MUD, but I don't think it was.  The poster was adamant she felt a pop, and she said her mother had as well.

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  • Valie18 said:
    kim1730 said:

    Of course I know Wikipedia is not 100% reliable.  Just thought it may be a good quick overview as opposed to digging through the medical studies.

    And no, it might not be helpful information, just interesting.  I thought it was very interesting as it was something I never heard of until recently and thought somebody else might be interested too.

    Maybe its possible someday we could have a test to detect fertilization a day or two after ovulation.  But then with implantation not a sure thing, is that something we really want to know? 

    I find this very interesting. I am undecided.


    If m/c rates are 1 in 4. ONE IN FOUR. Do you really want to know the frequency of fertilized eggs that don't make it?

    The flip side is - If you go through 12 months of ttc and decide to seek help, is it useful information at that point to know whether the problem is with fertilization or with implantation.

    Or maybe ... you're ttc and you know right away fertilization has not occured this cycle.  You have more piece of mind around things like taking advil for a headache, or having a beer for those 2 weeks where you might have otherwise avoided those things.

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  • Seriously guys, I am going to o next week and felt a ton of cramps. Do you think the sperm found the egg early? I am going to the er for a test, ASAP.


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  • ksuRN09 said:
    I've never heard of this so I can't say for sure but I would venture to guess that the research hasn't proven it to be reliable. I would be interested to read the studies to see what they found. Also,I don't know if you're aware of this but Wikipedia is not a source I would trust on this particular subject. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think anyone can go on that site and add information. Not exactly credible.
    Correct about Wikipedia, anyone can go on and change information on that site.  I was always told not to trust that sight or use when writing papers.
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  • Valie18 said:

    I've been thinking about and I think I'd like to know that fertilization can happen for us. After that I wouldn't want to know again.
    I can get behind it in that respect, in a fertility testing kind of way....but other than that I feel like it would just result in a new kind of loss that we all don't need. Does that make sense?
    That makes total sense to me.

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